Trailer Rebuild (pic heavy)

space-junk · 06-12-2009, 03:24 PM

Well, as the girl_face and i are gettin ready to go to the Oregon Yotatech meetup and then to warshington and idaho to visit family, i spoke with my dad about borrowing his trailer...

well, its got some issues, but i have 2 and a half weeks to sort those out...

specs on the trailer...

its was a 1950something 5x7 pop up trailer...
back around 1985 it was moldy and falling apart, so my dad stripped it down to the frame and rebuilt it as a stake side trailer in a very fashionable black and red.(

) meh, it was the 80s... lol...

anywyas, its been used for everything imaginable. its been overloaded, the rear gate has fallen off numerous times, the tires are only 8 inches tall and 3 inches wide, the springs only have 2 in the pack, and with 300 lbs in the back it sags down to the wheel wells...

but thats all about to change... im going to rebuild it, replace those springs and get some larger tires, give it a new coat of paint and run new LED lights and markers, and new trailer plug wiring...

where i sit now...
the white boards were replacements that my dad put in a few years ago because the old ones were rotten...

the floorboard which isnt getting replaced, just painted... lots of work to do...

check out that shackle angle!!!

my dads wiring job and the wheeled jack that was installed a few years ago...

old colors...

new colors... the same sthparkley blue as my hubs and some suspension pieces for the metal and white for the boards so that it matches my truck...

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space-junk · 06-17-2009, 07:31 PM

heres a few more pics of the progress...
as you can see, im starting from the rear gate forward right now working on getting all the metal painted...
and what im hoping for is that with the white and sparkly blue it will bring the trailer up to date fashion-wise, and with the LED markers and lights, new springs, new tires, and new wiring harness it will bring the trailer up to spec safety-wise...

space-junk · 06-18-2009, 01:35 AM

got some more work done tonight...

got the frame of it painted black onthe sides, got the old lights off, and pulled the axle...

notice the TINY "overload springs" as my dad called them...

To show what it looked like before...

Fully Painted bottom rail...

Elton · 06-18-2009, 01:53 AM

lol i wouldn't even trust that trailer for the 5 mile trip to the gas station

okie81 · 06-18-2009, 04:06 AM

Good progress on the trailer...maybe a tranny cooler as a treat for the truck?

space-junk · 06-18-2009, 11:47 AM

maybe a little bit later in life, okie, but im not sure if its possible with a 5 speed...

and elton, this trailer has served us loyaly for over 50 years, so shut it...

Elton · 06-18-2009, 12:54 PM

its just them little tires i dont trust

**UKMyers** · 06-18-2009, 01:09 PM

Awesome!... What part of Idaho you visiting? Elton I believe he mentioned putting bigger tires on. It always cracks me up when you see people towing trailers like for a golf cart or something with those tires doing 80 down the freeway. They have no clue how fast those little tires are whizzing at those kinds of speeds.

space-junk · 06-18-2009, 04:06 PM

yea... with the 33s, figure that those little 12 inch tires are rotating at around 2.5 times the speed of my tires on my truck...

they are getting replaced with, hopefully, a set of 15 inch tires on 12 inch rims...

Tacoclimber · 06-18-2009, 04:10 PM

Meh, I'd put 33's on the trailer!

space-junk · 06-19-2009, 12:50 AM

i WANT to... but the wheel wells arent large enough not is the axle strong enough...

but, i am going to gank an idea from here and do a spring over conversion...
lol... should gain me 2-3 inches...

anyways, got some more work done today... got the axle stripped and the wheel bearing crap all pulled out... gonna repack em and get em back together... then paint everything flat black and bolt it back up...

hopefully tomorrow i can also get all the boards stripped and start painting...

space-junk · 06-23-2009, 01:08 AM

a leetle bit more work done tonight...

Spring Over Axle Conversion

u-bolts painted to match the painted axle and springs...

painted the perches and shackles...

then tore apart the hubs...

then cleaned everything and put a coat on the hub and dust cover...

Look how small these bearings are!!

**aviator** · 06-23-2009, 08:38 AM

Looks good space... I was going to suggest an axle flip to get you some more ground clearance/travel... the axles look to be in really good shape for a trailer that old... I was thinking you might want to shift the dolly a little further back because it might interfere with the hitch if you get into a tight turn/off camber situation.

89silverpu · 06-23-2009, 09:19 AM

As soon as I saw the leaf springs I was gunna say do an SOA conversion

but then I read on and you already did

what about adding two ubolts and making a new ubolt plate....seems a little sketchy with just one ubolt IMO. Other than that, lookin good!

okie81 · 06-23-2009, 09:46 AM

Coming along nicely, good work.

space-junk · 06-23-2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviator

Looks good space... I was going to suggest an axle flip to get you some more ground clearance/travel... the axles look to be in really good shape for a trailer that old... I was thinking you might want to shift the dolly a little further back because it might interfere with the hitch if you get into a tight turn/off camber situation.

hmm... im not sure what the "dolly" is that your referring to, but this trailer is going to be a strictly onroad trailer... for now...

and its funny you should mention the axle too, because if you waw it in person, its less of an axle and more of a U shaped piece of steel with the wheel bearings welded into the ends and smapp spring pads welded across the open side of the U... but, hey, it works!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89silverpu

As soon as I saw the leaf springs I was gunna say do an SOA conversion

but then I read on and you already did

what about adding two ubolts and making a new ubolt plate....seems a little sketchy with just one ubolt IMO. Other than that, lookin good!

LOL... beat you to it!! yea, we have to flip the spring over the axle to get a little more clearence for the bigger rims and tires...
as for the U-bolts, they were the only ones on there from the factory, and they have worked for 50 years, so im pretty sure they should be fine... and i dont have time or money for more fabrication at this point... as said before, this rig isnt gonna be towed on the trail...
Thanks for the kind words!

Quote:

Originally Posted by okie81

Coming along nicely, good work.

Thanks Okie!!

bigtrucknwheels · 06-23-2009, 01:15 PM

the pipe clamps holding the leaf packs together is a nice touch!

cool little project haha. nice work.

vital22re · 06-23-2009, 02:22 PM

so wheres the snorkel goin?

space-junk · 06-23-2009, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtrucknwheels

the pipe clamps holding the leaf packs together is a nice touch!

cool little project haha. nice work.

Ouch about the pipe clamps... those were there from when my dad originally rebuilt the trailer back in the mid 80s... my best guess is that they were to keep the tiny over load leafs in check... but im not 100% on that...

thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by vital22re

so wheres the snorkel goin?

on my truck... when i can afford one...

space-junk · 06-23-2009, 10:23 PM

got a little more work done...

got the rest of the frame painted...

got the rest of the boards off of the truck and the upright supports painted...

CRafferty · 06-23-2009, 10:43 PM

That looks great man, what color are you going with on the boards?

space-junk · 06-24-2009, 01:51 AM

well, because its been so windy lately, i havent been able to break out the house paint for the boards, but all of them are going to be replaced with new boards of the same sizes (like the white ones that you see on the front of the trailer; the ones with no paint on the edges) and they will be exactly the same... later on, after my trip im goint to pull them back off and actually paint them with super white gloss latex house paint... that way it will be easy to wipe down when it gets dirty...

jackwolf · 06-24-2009, 02:16 AM

I would trust that trailer on a 5 mile trip to the gas station especially if it was a beer run. It looks strong and in good shape. It also looks dowdy and disheveled but that is just cosmetic. What you call a rebuild I think of as general maintenance. Are you getting it all dolled up for a parade?

Actually, if was a beer run, I would a go ahead and ride in the back of that thing chariot style all way to the gas station. How many horses in that yota. Hook me up and lets ride. (crack whip)

space-junk · 06-24-2009, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackwolf

I would trust that trailer on a 5 mile trip to the gas station especially if it was a beer run. It looks strong and in good shape. It also looks dowdy and disheveled but that is just cosmetic. What you call a rebuild I think of as general maintenance. Are you getting it all dolled up for a parade?

Actually, if was a beer run, I would a go ahead and ride in the back of that thing chariot style all way to the gas station. How many horses in that yota. Hook me up and lets ride. (crack whip)

heh, thanks for the kind words... and im pretty sure that my yota has less than 100 horses inside of it... heck, i couldnt cram more than the face of one thru the intake because toyota designed them so small...

anyways, i totally agree with what you said, it looks (looked) disheveled, but its really a stout little trailer... and for the record, im taking it on a 2500 mile trip up thru oregon, washington, idaho, and maybe nevada on the way back to commiefornia...

and, yes, its maiden voyage will be down to the store for some beer...

space-junk · 06-24-2009, 04:43 AM

ok, so at 4:00 AM this morning, i finally got the wheel bearings repacked and squared away and... THE AXLE IS IN!!! woohoo!!

hook how much lift i got out of it!!!

before...

after...

u bolts reinstalled...

and pics of the clearences... odd how everything is 7 inches...

Fender clearances...

Ground to bottom of axle clearence...

Spring perch to frame clearence...

06-18-2009, 01:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,644	lol i wouldn't even trust that trailer for the 5 mile trip to the gas station __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck

06-18-2009, 04:06 AM	#5 (permalink)
okie81 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nor, CAL Posts: 1,155	Good progress on the trailer...maybe a tranny cooler as a treat for the truck? __________________ 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4-Dub TRD supercharger, Thorley Headers, URD 7th, Toytec Coilovers, OME 890's, baseball card in spokes

06-18-2009, 12:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 10,644	its just them little tires i dont trust __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto sister 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck

06-18-2009, 04:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tacoclimber Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Between a rock and a hard place, AZ Posts: 3,713	Meh, I'd put 33's on the trailer! __________________ CJ ...<>< 03 DC TRD Tacoma 4wd with a bunch of junk. SOLD 1964 Chevy Biscayne, 230 I6, lowered, satin black, old-school legit. Just wheel the stupid thing!!! But do it responsibly, ok? My band: Road Worn Saints

06-23-2009, 08:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,467	Looks good space... I was going to suggest an axle flip to get you some more ground clearance/travel... the axles look to be in really good shape for a trailer that old... I was thinking you might want to shift the dolly a little further back because it might interfere with the hitch if you get into a tight turn/off camber situation. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

06-23-2009, 09:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
89silverpu Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Vacaville/Sierra Nevada Mountains, CA/ UNLV (Las Vegas), NV Posts: 1,688	As soon as I saw the leaf springs I was gunna say do an SOA conversion but then I read on and you already did what about adding two ubolts and making a new ubolt plate....seems a little sketchy with just one ubolt IMO. Other than that, lookin good! __________________ '89 Beater Jeep Eater in progress 4.88's, TRD e-locker, Dual Cases, 33's, Armored, Tread Lightly Mixchallenge.info

06-23-2009, 09:46 AM	#15 (permalink)
okie81 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nor, CAL Posts: 1,155	Coming along nicely, good work. __________________ 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4-Dub TRD supercharger, Thorley Headers, URD 7th, Toytec Coilovers, OME 890's, baseball card in spokes

06-23-2009, 01:15 PM	#17 (permalink)
bigtrucknwheels Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Selinsgrove, PA Posts: 2,065	the pipe clamps holding the leaf packs together is a nice touch! cool little project haha. nice work. __________________ '97 4Runner SR5 V6. 4wd/V6/5spd. Factory rear locker, 2" OME suspension lift, 265/75-R16 BF Goodrich A/T KO's, Gray (in my case Blue/Red) wire mod. '90 4Runner SR5 V6. 4wd/V6/Auto. Complete Part Out! Click or PM! '90 Pickup Xtra Cab DLX. 4wd/V6/Auto. Soon for sale... :( '89 Pickup Std. Cab DLX. 4wd/I4/5spd. 3" BL. Soon for sale... :( ♪♪ Anything your Jeep can do, my Yota can do better. Mine can do anything better than yours ♪♪ Proud Sponsor22re Oil Cap Removed Thread

06-23-2009, 02:22 PM	#18 (permalink)
vital22re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kirkland washington Posts: 673	so wheres the snorkel goin? __________________ 92 toyota truck 3.4 5spd 4.56 gears magna flow cat and muffler2 1/4 piping isr mod to intake 1.5 bjsfront add a leafs and 2inch lift shackles rear rancho shocks all around sitting on 265/75/r16 nitto terra grapplers

06-24-2009, 02:16 AM	#23 (permalink)
jackwolf Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USA Posts: 136	I would trust that trailer on a 5 mile trip to the gas station especially if it was a beer run. It looks strong and in good shape. It also looks dowdy and disheveled but that is just cosmetic. What you call a rebuild I think of as general maintenance. Are you getting it all dolled up for a parade? Actually, if was a beer run, I would a go ahead and ride in the back of that thing chariot style all way to the gas station. How many horses in that yota. Hook me up and lets ride. (crack whip)

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