Lets talk fire extinguishers

***Corey*** · 09-09-2007, 11:27 AM

I am a little confused on the subject, and I really need a new one.
I have a small Kidde one and a chrome rechargeable one I bought around '91 from Northwest Offroad.

THey are both old, and do not have good mounts.

After doing some research, I found a few links.
Here is one that is more of an aerosol can, but it puts out fires good, but the can is rather large.

It is made by Pyrocom.

http://www.thefirestore.com/store/product.cfm?pID=3440
http://www.pyrocom-spray.com/

Good video
http://www.pyrocom-spray.com/video/pyrocom_dvd.mpg

Here is another one I am looking at, and member KD7 has one by h3performance, the HalGuard one.
http://www.h3rperformance.com/index.htm

HalGuard model
http://www.h3rperformance.com/halguard_products.htm

Wayne's model in red, the HG250
http://www.h3rperformance.com/hg250r.htm
Also available in chrome
http://www.h3rperformance.com/hg250c.htm

It looks like a good choice, now to find a place to order one from.
Anyone running this unit besides Wayne?

Quote:

Clean agent extinguishers from H3R Performance.
These H3R Performance HalGuard fire extinguishers feature a clean agent--an electrically non-conducting liquid or gaseous fire-extinguishing agent that does not leave a residue.
They feature high-quality steel cylinders with all-metal valve construction, are available in chrome or red painted finishes, and are compact, lightweight, and easy to use.

The H3R Performance HalGuard fire extinguishers will leave no mess or damage to the vehicle or surfaces, will not impair the operator's vision, provide no thermal shock to electronics, and are EPA-approved.
The liquefied gas extinguishes those hard-to-reach fires common in many applications.
Clean agent fire extinguishers like these H3R Performance HalGuards have long been the product of choice for protecting classic automobiles and race cars, not to mention aircraft, computer rooms, and other high-tech equipment.

KevinInSac · 09-09-2007, 12:01 PM

I could have used that aeresol can when the alternator in my Grand Marquis caught on fire...

Subscribing: I need an extinguisher too.

***Corey*** · 09-09-2007, 12:07 PM

I am leaning towards the one that Wayne has, will more than likely mail order it.
It is hard to find local shops that have this stuff.

***Corey*** · 09-10-2007, 10:49 AM

Ordered the red HalGuard.
It should be here Friday.

May mount it then or wait until Saturday to mount it.
Pictures will follow the installation.

KevinInSac · 09-10-2007, 03:45 PM

I'm going to order one once I find a job. I aleady know where I want to mount it. Right between my rear seats vertically.

***Corey*** · 09-10-2007, 04:18 PM

Cool, you will like it.
I know they are much more pricey than the dry chemical ones, but they are worth it.

I talked to a local fire extinguisher shop today near work, and he said they are the way to go.
They carry a different brand though, but the material is very similar.

The dry chemical ones (Kidde and others) can corrode stuff under your hood, and do not even attempt to use them on your home PC equipment or electronics in your vehicle.
You will ruin them.

Quote:

* No thermal shock to electronics
* No mess or damage to vehicle or surfaces
* Liquefied gas extinguishes hard-to-reach fires
* Does not impair operator's vision
* EPA approved
* Listed and rated 2B:C by Underwriters Laboratories
* Rechargeable
* Made in U.S.A.
* 2-strap mounting bracket
* 6' - 10' discharge range
* High quality steel cylinders
* All metal valve construction
* Compact, lightweight, easy to use
* One year limited warranty

KevinInSac · 09-10-2007, 05:00 PM

So which size did you order? 100 or 250? I'm gonna go chrome, I think it'd be a little more appealing inside the cab.

flyfishexpert · 09-10-2007, 08:19 PM

Where did you order it from?

drguitarum2005 · 09-10-2007, 08:30 PM

how much was it if you dont mind my asking?

BajaTaco · 09-10-2007, 10:51 PM

Corey, that looks like a very good choice. Three types of extinguishers can be useful for vehicles - dry powder type (ABC), halon (clean-agent), and foam (AFFF). The latter is for flammable liquid spills (such as fuel on the ground) so may be appropriate for larger specialized vehicles carrying large amounts of auxiliary fuel that may spill or for racing applications, but not as applicable to us. The powder is economical and depending on the type can put out fires from solids, fuels, and electrical but as you mentioned, it can be quite a mess. The clean-agent (Halon) type is a liquid stream that gasifies when it is deployed, and fights the fire by displacing oxygen. Therefore it will work best in confined areas such as inside a vehicle or in an engine bay. If you want the best of both worlds, carry a halon unit for application on your vehicle and a powder unit (ABC) for fires outside of your vehicle (camp site, public hazards, etc.)

HERE is an interesting article on vehicle fires from Off-Road.com

***Corey*** · 09-11-2007, 01:05 AM

Keven, the 250 model.

Beau, they have a list of resellers on their website, I went with Jegs.

David, they go for $119 not counting shipping and hazmat shipping fees.

Thanks Chris for the information.
Will check out that link too.

stormin94 · 09-11-2007, 01:27 AM

I just run a standard ABC Co2 gas extinguisher(I think it's Co2). I've never personally put my car out(or myself), but I have used it on small roadside fires. Two times I have seen smoking brush, or small flames on the side of the road, usually caused by the pricks who fail to use their ash tray for their cigarette butts. I've put both of the fires out, one was on a very hot windy day(106degrees, 30+miles per hour) and not much other traffic, and more importantly, no fire stations anywhere close. I've also saved a drunk guy from burning himself severely, when he dropped his nice tool box into the fire. Let's just say the fire didn't stand a chance, but it was kind of a lost cause, because the guy didn't wait for the tools to cool down before he picked them up, and burned himself anyway, but not bad. That thing was a handy little brute, and I'll definitly buy another one once this one goes "up in smoke".

***Corey*** · 09-14-2007, 07:21 PM

It is in.

I have a custom mount coming from Luke @ www.fourtreks.com , but I think I will stay with this setup here if the ARB fridge will clear it.
I will have to test it tomorrow if it clears the fridge or not.

I can also raise the mount up a few inches higher, but I may leave it in the low rider position.
It is bolted with 4 bolts right to the side of the Powertank bracket.

bballchrism · 09-14-2007, 07:29 PM

sweet man all the thing you install look so awsome and clean

***Corey*** · 09-15-2007, 11:06 AM

Thanks man, it is a labor of love

My father was very meticulous in the tasks and work he performed, it rubbed off I guess.

I am very anal about the way I do things, and try to make something fit right so it does not look out of place to much.

I feel much better now having a fire extinguisher in the rig.
Did not have one before, but I carried two dry chemical ones in the old rig.
Never again will I carry a dry chemical one for using on the rig.
You are only going to ruin something on your rig when you use it.

I will probably carry the Kidde one though as Chris above mentioned they are good for outside of your rig when you do not need to worry about the dry chemical types fubaring up anything.

***waskillywabbit*** · 09-15-2007, 11:28 AM

I got my fire extinguishers for both my shop and vehicles from the local fire supply place that services our extinguishers at work. MUCH cheaper than Lowe's, HD or online.

KevinInSac · 09-15-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

I got my fire extinguishers for both my shop and vehicles from the local fire supply place that services our extinguishers at work. MUCH cheaper than Lowe's, HD or online.

Are the ones in your rig the "clean" type?

***waskillywabbit*** · 09-15-2007, 11:41 AM

09-09-2007, 12:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
KevinInSac Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA (Carmichael) Posts: 1,030	I could have used that aeresol can when the alternator in my Grand Marquis caught on fire... Subscribing: I need an extinguisher too. __________________ 92 ExCab Pickup SR5 3.0 5spd 4X4 Pretty much stock. I've done some stuff though.

09-09-2007, 12:07 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,770	I am leaning towards the one that Wayne has, will more than likely mail order it. It is hard to find local shops that have this stuff. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

09-10-2007, 10:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,770	Ordered the red HalGuard. It should be here Friday. May mount it then or wait until Saturday to mount it. Pictures will follow the installation. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

09-10-2007, 03:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
KevinInSac Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA (Carmichael) Posts: 1,030	I'm going to order one once I find a job. I aleady know where I want to mount it. Right between my rear seats vertically. __________________ 92 ExCab Pickup SR5 3.0 5spd 4X4 Pretty much stock. I've done some stuff though.

09-10-2007, 05:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
KevinInSac Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sacramento, CA (Carmichael) Posts: 1,030	So which size did you order? 100 or 250? I'm gonna go chrome, I think it'd be a little more appealing inside the cab. __________________ 92 ExCab Pickup SR5 3.0 5spd 4X4 Pretty much stock. I've done some stuff though.

09-10-2007, 08:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
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09-10-2007, 10:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
BajaTaco Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 638	Corey, that looks like a very good choice. Three types of extinguishers can be useful for vehicles - dry powder type (ABC), halon (clean-agent), and foam (AFFF). The latter is for flammable liquid spills (such as fuel on the ground) so may be appropriate for larger specialized vehicles carrying large amounts of auxiliary fuel that may spill or for racing applications, but not as applicable to us. The powder is economical and depending on the type can put out fires from solids, fuels, and electrical but as you mentioned, it can be quite a mess. The clean-agent (Halon) type is a liquid stream that gasifies when it is deployed, and fights the fire by displacing oxygen. Therefore it will work best in confined areas such as inside a vehicle or in an engine bay. If you want the best of both worlds, carry a halon unit for application on your vehicle and a powder unit (ABC) for fires outside of your vehicle (camp site, public hazards, etc.) HERE is an interesting article on vehicle fires from Off-Road.com __________________ Chris Marzonie BAJATACO.COM Toyota light expedition vehicle Adventure reports Lots of Photos OVERLAND JOURNAL North America's first vehicle-dependent expedition magazine Last edited by BajaTaco : 09-10-2007 at 10:56 PM.

09-11-2007, 01:05 AM	#11 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,770	Keven, the 250 model. Beau, they have a list of resellers on their website, I went with Jegs. David, they go for $119 not counting shipping and hazmat shipping fees. Thanks Chris for the information. Will check out that link too. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

09-11-2007, 01:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,276	I just run a standard ABC Co2 gas extinguisher(I think it's Co2). I've never personally put my car out(or myself), but I have used it on small roadside fires. Two times I have seen smoking brush, or small flames on the side of the road, usually caused by the pricks who fail to use their ash tray for their cigarette butts. I've put both of the fires out, one was on a very hot windy day(106degrees, 30+miles per hour) and not much other traffic, and more importantly, no fire stations anywhere close. I've also saved a drunk guy from burning himself severely, when he dropped his nice tool box into the fire. Let's just say the fire didn't stand a chance, but it was kind of a lost cause, because the guy didn't wait for the tools to cool down before he picked them up, and burned himself anyway, but not bad. That thing was a handy little brute, and I'll definitly buy another one once this one goes "up in smoke". __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 208,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 14/19 MPG city/hwy(before 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

09-14-2007, 07:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,770	It is in. I have a custom mount coming from Luke @ www.fourtreks.com , but I think I will stay with this setup here if the ARB fridge will clear it. I will have to test it tomorrow if it clears the fridge or not. I can also raise the mount up a few inches higher, but I may leave it in the low rider position. It is bolted with 4 bolts right to the side of the Powertank bracket. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

09-14-2007, 07:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
bballchrism Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: florida tallahasee Posts: 615	sweet man all the thing you install look so awsome and clean __________________ 1985 4runner just painted Toyota red, marlin crawler bumper, bull bar, bikini top and 4 inch procomp lift, 33x12.5 bfg mt and black steelies

09-15-2007, 11:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
*Corey* Co-Founder/Administrator Staff Join Date: May 2002 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 23,770	Thanks man, it is a labor of love My father was very meticulous in the tasks and work he performed, it rubbed off I guess. I am very anal about the way I do things, and try to make something fit right so it does not look out of place to much. I feel much better now having a fire extinguisher in the rig. Did not have one before, but I carried two dry chemical ones in the old rig. Never again will I carry a dry chemical one for using on the rig. You are only going to ruin something on your rig when you use it. I will probably carry the Kidde one though as Chris above mentioned they are good for outside of your rig when you do not need to worry about the dry chemical types fubaring up anything. __________________ Corey 2007 FJ Cruiser ARB bumper, Warn XD9000, OME lift, roof top tent, so much more, see my website & buildup thread PNW FJ Cruisers ☺ Detailing 101 ☺ Join Topsites ☺ Muffler Comparisons ☺ Maggiolinas In The Wild FJ Cruiser Buildup ☺ New Roof Top Tent ☺ Video Of My Penthouse ☺ Rehinge Your ARB/Engel Fridge

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