hey im new here not sure how or where to post this questions so i figured id throw it out and see who bites.. heres what ive got a 90 pickup reg cab 22re. i want to make a CUSTOM out of it what i want to do is take another 90 front frame and turn it around and weld it to my front frame (4 wheel independent suspension with 4 locking hubs) for road and offroad. now i know 'why the hell would you want to do that' well because i can. but the question i have is do i need to worry about the front axle that will be in the back, because it will technically be rotating in reverse from normal.

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Moved to your own thread.



Want to ask silly questions, have at it, but please don't hijack someone else's thread with it.

Do it post lots of pics .. and no you dont have to worry about the front diff now in the back .i guess youll now have 4 wheel steering too Do it cut it up

As far as gear oil circulation goes it should be fine. But don't expect the rear diff to last to long driving on the coast side of the gears. Sounds cool though. Other engineering hiccups like the rear steering might be a tough one. Might have to custom fab some linkage components and go hydraulic steering.

Define worry.

Should you be worried that it's rotating in reverse? No. Because technically it isn't, only the front axle's going to be rotating in reverse(unless it's got reverse cut gears...which it doesn't). It would therefore be better than running it in the front strength wise(due to the use of the "drive" side of the ring gear teeth and not the "coast" side). Disregard ThatGuy1295's comment concerning the matter(due to it's inaccuracy).

Hold on there...not done yet. Regardless of being stronger vs. the same 7.5" axle in the front, it's going to be weaker than the 8" that was there to begin with. Worried? Yes, you should be.

I see no real benefits from doing what you intend. It sounds like a complete waste of time, money, and good truck parts to me. Not to mention being butt loads more complicated than I think you realize. Meaning, IF you can even manage to build that and make it work I'd be surprised. But have at it. It's your life, live it your way...

I think a 6x6 with two rear axles would be a better "custom" idea.

I really don't see the benefit of having two independent front suspension systems, let alone having two front axles in general. It would be a whole lot easier if you did two rear axles, instead. You wouldn't have to worry about messing with the steering and extending all of the front body panels and whatnot.

Better yet, why don't you lift it really high and have rows of tires from front to back, like the Stryker military vehicles


If you do go ahead and do duals in the front: A) do solid axles, and B) post many pics. This might be so stupid that it's awesome!

^^ funny looking Stryker..kind of looks like a BTR70 based on the angle of the exhaust..

Rear drive shaft alignment plans? Seems like that might be an issue since your new 'rear' differential isn't gonna be in the middle any more...

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So it must be rotating on the coast side of the gears when the truck is moving forward normally right?

waste of parts? no! you can have my front end!!! it would be a waste of parts if it gets junked lol I wanna see this happen. Don't forget 2 total chaos caddy lt kits lol

Might be better to use a complete frame and not cut it. Use hydrolic steering for the rear, look at a monster truck, and two truck cabs together might be interesting, or box off the rear cab and have a 4 door with the rear suicide style! Or lambo!

Honestly you're going into top gear territory there. It didn't work very well.

I'd focus trout efforts on something more productive.

Why not just get a currie 9" center section for the rear and just build a custom sub frame to support it? Hell, even a supra rear center section would work well too.
Your idea seems totally crazy.

I think Subaru allready done it.........

thanks

the driveshaft centerd i did not think of, that may be a deal breaker but probably not. i will possibly do rear steering later for now tie rods will be locked in placed with brackets to the frame. ive got a whole extra truck for 200 with parts left over to make money from so why not there will be 4 seats but not much of a cab (buggy style) for now.once i remove the cab and bed its all downhillcut chop weld there wont be much fabricating involved the trucks are still intact.sorry and remove engine and trans (done like dinner)if you have good knowledge i should know i appreciate it. if you dont approve well keep that to yourself. this will be fun and will post pics and videos when done it will be at wellsville youtube it

damn good point

IRS is awesome, but is there a reason you want to double up on Toyota IFS? There are stronger, more reliable ways of getting IRS. Not trying to discourage you and not even is approving of the suspension design, just think there are more simple and better ways of implementing it.

not particular it just seems cheap easy and something to do but on the other hand i do think that it will work very well. and i havent seem it done before so thats more reason to do it. i have all the parts for 200. it would cost 3 or 4 for a rear locker so why not. if its built right it will be strong enough. i will have plenty of supports and it will keep my center of gravity lower.

Locking hubs aren't the same as a locker.

i know i realize that. i have had no problems with my front axles and love the suspension so why not double it, understand it will be a hillclimber not a road truck.

You should post this on Pirate4x4. But wait until tomorrow, thats when most of the guys log on to help people.

Just making sure you know you'll still need lockers for the diff

this just seems like it wont work lol... hate to be the negitive in this story but yeah theres my negitive.....