Stacking 2 Frames as a lift

gyoas759 · 06-09-2009, 05:35 AM

My 87 Pickup has a cracked frame from a combination of rust and off road shennanigans. I'm planning on getting a new used frame for it and was thinking I would also do a small body lift to it at that time so I can move up from 31 to 33 inch tires. While researching lifts I came across frame stacking. putting one frame over another and removing the suspension attachments from the top frame and the body attachments from the lower and bolting/welding them together. Seems like it would give me the advantage of keeping stock suspension and an even stronger frame for the truck. Wondering if anyone here has done it, seen it done or has any pics, info, ideas etc. Just thinking logistics before I try anything.

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vandert · 06-09-2009, 06:19 AM

Never seen it done, and I've been around for a long time, due to the unpopularity of this mod, and a million other reasons I can think of, I would stay away from this IMO.

RobD · 06-09-2009, 06:25 AM

It would be like stacking Rosie O'Donnell on top of Roseanne Barr. You could do it. Not sure you'd want to, though. I'm sure the ride would be terrible and too much mass.

4rnr · 06-09-2009, 07:36 AM

*sigh*

ozziesironmanoffroad · 06-09-2009, 07:40 AM

ask allan about it. (just a 22re) he was talking about doing that.

ocdropzone · 06-09-2009, 08:33 AM

Seems to me it would make your truck look like a major pile of crap.

Just swap the frame.

toyNG · 06-09-2009, 08:36 AM

Never heard of it, but I don't see how that could be a good idea. Nevertheless, I'd read the write-up if you did it!

**Tofer** · 06-09-2009, 09:01 AM

i've said it before.....

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Originally Posted by Tofer

can it be done? yes. but at the same time i can run down the freeway naked banging pots and pans together..... doesnt mean its safe for me or those around me nor should i do it

**DeathCougar** · 06-09-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gyoas759

My 87 Pickup has a cracked frame from a combination of rust and off road shennanigans. I'm planning on getting a new used frame for it and was thinking I would also do a small body lift to it at that time so I can move up from 31 to 33 inch tires. While researching lifts I came across frame stacking. putting one frame over another and removing the suspension attachments from the top frame and the body attachments from the lower and bolting/welding them together. Seems like it would give me the advantage of keeping stock suspension and an even stronger frame for the truck. Wondering if anyone here has done it, seen it done or has any pics, info, ideas etc. Just thinking logistics before I try anything.

oh BOB SAGET!

Are the pirate guys so bored now that they are coming over here and screwing with us? This post isn't real.

96redtoy · 06-09-2009, 09:39 AM

^ i was thinking the same thing

TOYOTA 1 · 06-09-2009, 10:28 AM

OH yea frame stacking is the ish!! lower cog, free lift, and it looks great!

neilan · 06-09-2009, 10:42 AM

did you find this info on:
www.inbredredneckfromthesouth4x4.com?

TOYOTA 1 · 06-09-2009, 10:44 AM

^^ hahahaha

**waskillywabbit** · 06-09-2009, 11:00 AM

Do us a favor and sell your Toyota and buy a Jeep.

neilan · 06-09-2009, 11:53 AM

i bet he even tried to click the link....

mud4life · 06-09-2009, 12:14 PM

dont laugh i clicked the link lol. sounded interesting haha

toylocost · 06-09-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mud4life

dont laugh

I laughed.

dport · 06-09-2009, 02:29 PM

Sounds like an awesome idea. While your at it, go steal some scaffolding off a jobsite and build some ladder bars. i take that back, as I do not condone crime. Which is why you should not stack two frames together, as I would consider it a capital crime, esp on a Toyota.

toy89yota · 06-09-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Do us a favor and sell your Toyota and buy a Jeep.

Sounds like a YJ trick to me

mud4life · 06-09-2009, 04:00 PM

me and a buddy are puttin a S-10 pickup on a K-5 blazer frame and i wonder why i didnt just do that to start with. Would've been so much easier lol

spanish-road · 06-09-2009, 04:54 PM

wow um it wouldn't work. The geometry would change and thus it would become a disaster.

Andy_Structable · 06-10-2009, 09:12 AM

seems if you were going to do that, you should make it cool. put a celica body on a truck frame, that'd really P.O. the jeeps you have to pull out of the mud. (i pulled a hummer out of a snow bank with my front wheel drive celica last winter, H2s are so worthless, and celicas rock)

904_runner · 06-10-2009, 09:16 AM

Ive seen a toyota like that locally.

Andy_Structable · 06-10-2009, 11:29 AM

do you mean a celica on a truck frame, or the far more common sight of a toyota pulling out a hummer? ha ha. i know what you mean, if you see it again, snap a pic and post it.

4rnr · 06-10-2009, 11:56 AM

Alright I cant take it anymore, I know this is yotatech BUT, this thread has to be a joke! I refuse to beleive that there are THIS many dumb a$$es here, but maybe im in denial about the ever falling IQ around here.

06-09-2009, 06:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
vandert Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne/Cocoa Beach, Florida Posts: 137	Never seen it done, and I've been around for a long time, due to the unpopularity of this mod, and a million other reasons I can think of, I would stay away from this IMO. __________________ 04 4Runner - Sold 97 T100 - Sold 86 Runner - Project - Sold 02 Mustang GT Vert - Stuff done, 181 GPS confirmed miles per hour on Autobahn A-5 between Stuttgart and Hockenhiem:) For Sale 92 4Runner 3.slow - little lift, ISR, Dynomax catback, manual hubs conversion, Downey rear springs, more coming count on it...

06-09-2009, 06:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
RobD Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 1,724	It would be like stacking Rosie O'Donnell on top of Roseanne Barr. You could do it. Not sure you'd want to, though. I'm sure the ride would be terrible and too much mass. __________________ 1991 4Runner, 3.4 5VZFE swap, OME shocks/springs, 33" BFG All Terrain T/A KOs, Pioneer head unit, Infinity speakers, XM Satellite radio

06-09-2009, 07:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	sigh __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

06-09-2009, 07:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
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06-09-2009, 08:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,700	Seems to me it would make your truck look like a major pile of crap. Just swap the frame. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

06-09-2009, 08:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
toyNG Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Redlands, CA Posts: 563	Never heard of it, but I don't see how that could be a good idea. Nevertheless, I'd read the write-up if you did it! __________________ 1986 pickup 4x4 SR5, 5-spd, 33x10.5 BFG KM1 muds, 2" body lift, front and rear lockrights, 4.88s, 4.7 t-case with Dave'z twin stick, BudBuilt crossmember with 1" drivetrain lift, Downey grille guard and skid plate, TG sliders Still needed: rear bumper (Marlin, TG, or Dave'z)

06-09-2009, 10:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
neilan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Corvallis Oregon OSU Posts: 465	did you find this info on: www.inbredredneckfromthesouth4x4.com? __________________ DD: 87 4runner SR5, 31's, rebuilt engine, intake, new head, new injectors, new afm, 2.25 exhuast, header etc... SOLD: TR: 81 sr5 pickup. 5.29's spool rear, detriot front, highsteer, 36 sx's, lifted, bobbed, cagged, 22r with header, 32/36, 261 cam, new head and rebuild. Residing in the PNW bham 360

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06-09-2009, 11:53 AM	#15 (permalink)
neilan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Corvallis Oregon OSU Posts: 465	i bet he even tried to click the link.... __________________ DD: 87 4runner SR5, 31's, rebuilt engine, intake, new head, new injectors, new afm, 2.25 exhuast, header etc... SOLD: TR: 81 sr5 pickup. 5.29's spool rear, detriot front, highsteer, 36 sx's, lifted, bobbed, cagged, 22r with header, 32/36, 261 cam, new head and rebuild. Residing in the PNW bham 360

06-09-2009, 12:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
mud4life Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Ga Posts: 116	dont laugh i clicked the link lol. sounded interesting haha

06-09-2009, 02:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
dport Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 329	Sounds like an awesome idea. While your at it, go steal some scaffolding off a jobsite and build some ladder bars. i take that back, as I do not condone crime. Which is why you should not stack two frames together, as I would consider it a capital crime, esp on a Toyota. __________________ My truck's not stock, I got BFG A/T's!

06-09-2009, 04:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
mud4life Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: South Ga Posts: 116	me and a buddy are puttin a S-10 pickup on a K-5 blazer frame and i wonder why i didnt just do that to start with. Would've been so much easier lol

06-09-2009, 04:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
spanish-road Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairbanks Ak Posts: 1,095	wow um it wouldn't work. The geometry would change and thus it would become a disaster. __________________ What I don't get is why pay someone to work on your vehicle? 1991 toyota pickup extcab- 22re 31x10.5x15 bone stock except for the RV cam and tires. Last edited by waskillywabbit; 06-09-2009 at 08:54 PM. Reason: Clean up the potty mouth

06-10-2009, 09:12 AM	#22 (permalink)
Andy_Structable Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: colorado Posts: 36	not entirely bad idea seems if you were going to do that, you should make it cool. put a celica body on a truck frame, that'd really P.O. the jeeps you have to pull out of the mud. (i pulled a hummer out of a snow bank with my front wheel drive celica last winter, H2s are so worthless, and celicas rock)

06-10-2009, 09:16 AM	#23 (permalink)
904_runner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Chico, California Posts: 3,782	Ive seen a toyota like that locally. __________________ Mike 1990 4runner: 3.4 swapped, 5-speed, sas'd, Rear leaf swap, Locked, 5.29's, 39.5" iroks on Beadlocks, Armor'd Longfields, Duals coming soon: My build thread http://www.yotatech.com/f152/904_run...thread-158746/ http://www.treadlightly.org/ http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html

06-10-2009, 11:29 AM	#24 (permalink)
Andy_Structable Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: colorado Posts: 36	pic? do you mean a celica on a truck frame, or the far more common sight of a toyota pulling out a hummer? ha ha. i know what you mean, if you see it again, snap a pic and post it.

06-10-2009, 11:56 AM	#25 (permalink)
4rnr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 1,469	Alright I cant take it anymore, I know this is yotatech BUT, this thread has to be a joke! I refuse to beleive that there are THIS many dumb a$$es here, but maybe im in denial about the ever falling IQ around here. __________________ poop 1988 stock 4runner, v6, 5spd, soft top. 1990 fj62 stock and mint! 1992 4runner, 3.4, auto, SAS'ed, Marlin USA springs (4"/5"), 37" PBR's, 30 spline Longfields, Hydro assist, dual inchworms (5:1, twin stick, 23 spline, chromo output, 10* clock) 5.29's, lockrite's, custom exo, High angle drivelines drive shafts, 108" wheelbase, Warn hs9500i, Mcintosh/Dynaudio a/v system. The build up...http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.php?t=74915

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