Sarah Palin-- OHV ally!

alliekay · 08-29-2008, 07:33 PM

She would be awesome to represent us OHV users! And a life member of the NRA to boot!

Her husband is a four time winner of snowmobiling's most daunting race (2000 miles)-- the Iron Dog!

And huge advocate for domestic oil and natural gas production--- meaning WE GET TO KEEP DRIVING the rigs we love!

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burnscore1 · 08-29-2008, 10:09 PM

She's kind of a Cougar!!

Or MILF.
lol

***fustercluck*** · 08-29-2008, 10:49 PM

I'm for the folks who endorse the most individual freedom, self reliance, personal responsibility and moral rectitude. Government is not the solution. It is the obstacle.

The govt. big enough to give all that is wanted, is powerful enough to take everything you have.
(paraphrased from a Republican Convention speech by Prseident Gerald Ford circa 1974)

ocdropzone · 08-29-2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnscore1

Or MILF.
lol

Or GILF 'Governor I ....."

**waskillywabbit** · 08-30-2008, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnscore1

She's kind of a Cougar!!

Or MILF.
lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdropzone

Or GILF 'Governor I ....."

And she'd kick or shoot both your arses.

McCain already had my vote...his choice for VP just solidified it.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 08-30-2008, 07:21 AM

Mccain already had my vote too... though its disturbing that he 'forgot' how many houses he owns... turns out he owns 3 here in san diego that he forgot about... if he cant remember how many houses he owns, then hows he gonna remember huge stuff when hes president? oh well i like him way better than obama, now im going to stop talkin politics

**waskillywabbit** · 08-30-2008, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

Mccain already had my vote too... though its disturbing that he 'forgot' how many houses he owns... turns out he owns 3 here in san diego that he forgot about... if he cant remember how many houses he owns, then hows he gonna remember huge stuff when hes president? oh well i like him way better than obama, now im going to stop talkin politics

Only difference between OBama and OSama is BS.

I believe the truth of the matter is that the houses belong to his "wealthy" wife.

I only own one house, pretty easy to remember but what if you owned several, say as many houses as you have pairs of shoes. Do you know how many pairs of shoes you own? I sure as hell don't.

toyota-erik · 08-30-2008, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fustercluck

I'm for the folks who endorse the most individual freedom, self reliance, personal responsibility and moral rectitude. Government is not the solution. It is the obstacle.

You must be a conservative, maybe even a Regan conservative.

burnscore1 · 08-30-2008, 10:30 AM

McCain already had my vote. He may not be who I wanted, but he's who I got. Being from Texas, my biggest issue is illegal immigration. He might as well be a democrat with his views on that. I haven't read up on Mrs. Palin yet to see her views.
As far as Obama goes. He's a salesman. He's a good speaker. He has no experience, no original ideas, and no idea how to put his plans together.

That and he REALLY wants to increase and add taxes on and to EVERYTHING!!!

SC4Runner · 08-30-2008, 10:50 AM

...She's got her hands down the pants of big oil though.... meehh....

***fustercluck*** · 08-30-2008, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toyota-erik

You must be a conservative, maybe even a Regan conservative.

I am a flaming chrome plated constitutional conservative. I believe in personal stregnth through confronting and surmounting adversity with as little peripheral help as possible. As a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link, so goes society. The integrity of social order relies on rugged individuals and vigorous, stable families. Anything that dilutes or erodes those basic elements even in isolated cases, is to be abandoned for the sake of human refinement and edification.

Socialism decays both the individual and the family structure. It prevents folks from fulfilling their potential and stunts longterm quality of life for the illusion of security regardless of the natural consequences of poor decision making and foolishly myopic perspectives. It removes from the individual responsibility and eventually personal freedom. For freedom must be accompanied by moral responsibility to endure everlastingly.

Without specifically indicating a particular candidate, I declare my allegiance to those most removed from Socialism, Marxism, Communism, Fascism, Lennonism. In this political race, there is one candidate that believes in, acts as and endorses essential elements of all of those fatally flawed social systems. He has behaved and declared so as well as surrounded himself with others who've done the same and whose vision it is to change the United States from moral captialism to dependant socialsm. If change is what we need, then that is not the kind of change we can sustain.

There is more, but I have to go pull some weeds.

***fustercluck*** · 08-30-2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC4Runner

...She's got her hands down the pants of big oil though.... meehh....

...as opposed to being courted by big Socialism?....

...and big Environment?...

pattycakes77 · 08-30-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC4Runner

...She's got her hands down the pants of big oil though.... meehh....

i am officially changing my name to "big oil"!

85toy · 08-30-2008, 02:01 PM

i just cant figure out who i hate the least.

toyota-erik · 08-30-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fustercluck

...as opposed to being courted by big Socialism?....

...and big Environment?...

Exactly

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC4Runner

...She's got her hands down the pants of big oil though.... meehh....

So thats why fuel prices are highest in AK. Can you quantify that statement or are you just good at repeating the rhetoric of talk show hosts?
Is it really fair to look at the total profits in dollars of the largest industry in the world? If thats the case, then look at the total amount of taxes paid as well (both from them and us). Big Government makes a lot more on a gallon of fuel than Big Oil.

Im so sick and tired of people talking obout "Big Oil" and how we should limit their profits. Whats next, Big Food, Big Retail, Big Construction, ect? Sounds like Communism to me.

SC4Runner · 08-30-2008, 05:55 PM

I'm saying that its pretty funny that all you need to do to become president is have a ton of money. Look at her biography, and her husbands. They have their fists deep inside the brown canal... (uh hehehe)... Oil runs our nation. I just feel that we're going to keep postponing advancements in energy by electing those who are in the oil business. You've got to be kidding yourself if you think that she does not have a personal agenda with the entire energy crisis and being elected.

Pro environment is not a bad thing. Once again we can talk about extremists in any arena causing problems.

Lastly, she is pretty good looking, and i'll probably vote for her, er I mean McCain... id rather have a hot prez once McCain falls down a flight of stairs.

Oh and PS. I dont want offshore drilling simply cause I don't want to step in tar every time I visit my sanctuary. lalalallaa

PSS...

pattycakes77 · 08-30-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC4Runner

...she is pretty good looking, and i'll probably vote for her...

Giggity Giggity!

JohnRaven · 08-30-2008, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC4Runner

I'm saying that its pretty funny that all you need to do to become president is have a ton of money. Look at her biography, and her husbands. They have their fists deep inside the brown canal... (uh hehehe)... Oil runs our nation. I just feel that we're going to keep postponing advancements in energy by electing those who are in the oil business. You've got to be kidding yourself if you think that she does not have a personal agenda with the entire energy crisis and being elected.

Pro environment is not a bad thing. Once again we can talk about extremists in any arena causing problems.

Lastly, she is pretty good looking, and i'll probably vote for her, er I mean McCain... id rather have a hot prez once McCain falls down a flight of stairs.

Oh and PS. I dont want offshore drilling simply cause I don't want to step in tar every time I visit my sanctuary. lalalallaa

PSS...

We already have offshore drilling, except we're not drilling for it.... China, Venezuela, and a few other countries are....

Wonder where that tar is

burnscore1 · 08-30-2008, 08:47 PM

I was about to say.... Texas coast isn't nasty because of drilling..

And yes, China hooked up with Cuba and now dfrills off of our shores. You can bet your bottom dollar that if they have a spill and it mucks up Florida's coast that China nor Cuba are not going to pay or do a damn thing to clean up.

alliekay · 08-30-2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC4Runner

Oil runs our nation. I just feel that we're going to keep postponing advancements in energy by electing those who are in the oil business.

Oh and PS. I dont want offshore drilling simply cause I don't want to step in tar every time I visit my sanctuary.

Our nation is run on cheap energy, including oil. Oil does not run our nation...yet. That is why we need to work toward energy independence.
We are not postponing anything IMO. The market will flush out emerging technologies as price/demand dictates. Let the market work-- encourage it, sure, but don't force it...unnatural forces upon a free market (socialism/marxism) end very badly.

As far as oil in the ocean-- 99.9% of oil "spills" in the oceans are naturally occurring. Oil is released on a regular basis from natural fissures in the oceanic crust. It is no big deal, very natural.

X-AWDriver · 08-31-2008, 09:56 AM

I think it's funny that McCain goes after Obama for lack of experience and then he picks a VP with a whole lot less and one very few amercians have even heard of.
She's also the govonor (only 2 years and before that was mayor of a city of 5000) of a state with less people in our "small" city of Denver and what if McCain,who is 72 and has cancer,goes down Palin is now in charge which isn't something I'd feel comfortable about.

This thread remind me of how alot of republicans on this board just blindly supported Bush and his anti-constitutional tactics and supported the Iraq war and see where that has gotten us.

This move by McCain is more about image than substance and is a last ditch effort to save his campaign but I think this move just helps the Dems.

**DeathCougar** · 09-01-2008, 12:36 AM

I would swear....SOMEwhere.....there is a rule.....

Ah nevemind. 4Whiner for Prez!!

alliekay · 09-01-2008, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

I would swear....SOMEwhere.....there is a rule.....

Ah nevemind. 4Whiner for Prez!!

Translation:

"I am voting for Nobama."

alliekay · 09-01-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X-AWDriver

I think it's funny that McCain goes after Obama for lack of experience and then he picks a VP with a whole lot less and one very few amercians have even heard of.
She's also the govonor (only 2 years and before that was mayor of a city of 5000) of a state with less people in our "small" city of Denver and what if McCain,who is 72 and has cancer,goes down Palin is now in charge which isn't something I'd feel comfortable about.

She has run a state-- that is more than we can say for Obama. She has an excellent anti-corruption record and has fought (and won) to reduce property taxes in Alaska. She has returned billions of dollars of state oil lease revenues to the people of Alaska. She has streamlined over 40 unneeded social programs.
She has actual executive experience. Obama has NONE.

Obama has only been in the Senate for a couple of years and has been busy running for president the ENTIRE TIME!
You can't even count his state legislative experience since he was too much of a wuss to vote anything but "present" on most bills. That is what political cowards do-- vote "present" to avoid appearing to actually take a stand on anything that could be held against them in the future. What a wuss.

**waskillywabbit** · 09-01-2008, 07:50 AM

SIMPLE MATH:

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON
TALKING POINTS ISSUE

Favors new drilling offshore US

JOHN McCAIN: Yes

BARAK OBAMA: No

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it

McCAIN: Yes

OBAMA: No

Served in the US Armed Forces

McCAIN: Yes

OBAMA: No

Amount of time served in the US Senate

McCAIN: 22 YEARS

OBAMA: 143 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan

McCAIN: No

OBAMA: Yes

Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy

McCAIN: No

OBAMA: Yes

Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately

McCAIN: No

OBAMA: Yes

Supports gun ownership rights

McCAIN: Yes

OBAMA: No

Supports homosexual marriage

McCAIN: No

OBAMA: Yes

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase

McCAIN: No

OBAMA: Yes

Voted against making English the official language

McCAIN: No

OBAMA: Yes

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals

McCAIN: No

OBAMA: Yes

CAPITAL GAINS TAX

MCCAIN
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.

OBAMA
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX

MCCAIN
15% (no change)

OBAMA
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.')

INCOME TAX

MCCAIN
(no changes)
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

MCCAIN
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

OBAMA
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/e...008/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/iss...ues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes

http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/p..._on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-.../barack_obama/

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...s/john_mccain/

Discuss amongst yourselves.

08-29-2008, 10:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
*fustercluck* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right here. Posts: 7,061	I'm for the folks who endorse the most individual freedom, self reliance, personal responsibility and moral rectitude. Government is not the solution. It is the obstacle. The govt. big enough to give all that is wanted, is powerful enough to take everything you have. (paraphrased from a Republican Convention speech by Prseident Gerald Ford circa 1974) __________________ War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 - 1873) Last edited by fustercluck; 08-29-2008 at 10:55 PM.

08-30-2008, 07:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	Mccain already had my vote too... though its disturbing that he 'forgot' how many houses he owns... turns out he owns 3 here in san diego that he forgot about... if he cant remember how many houses he owns, then hows he gonna remember huge stuff when hes president? oh well i like him way better than obama, now im going to stop talkin politics __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

08-30-2008, 10:50 AM	#10 (permalink)
SC4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 5th Gen San Diegan, California Posts: 5,885	...She's got her hands down the pants of big oil though.... meehh.... __________________ 1996 4x4 3.4L 4Runner on 35's - 6" of lift, MTR's, E-locked, ARB Tacoma Bumper, Sliders and a cut off tail pipe. 1966 FJ40 - SOA with stock springs, stock 1F motor, and a smelly tailpipe.

08-30-2008, 05:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
SC4Runner Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 5th Gen San Diegan, California Posts: 5,885	I'm saying that its pretty funny that all you need to do to become president is have a ton of money. Look at her biography, and her husbands. They have their fists deep inside the brown canal... (uh hehehe)... Oil runs our nation. I just feel that we're going to keep postponing advancements in energy by electing those who are in the oil business. You've got to be kidding yourself if you think that she does not have a personal agenda with the entire energy crisis and being elected. Pro environment is not a bad thing. Once again we can talk about extremists in any arena causing problems. Lastly, she is pretty good looking, and i'll probably vote for her, er I mean McCain... id rather have a hot prez once McCain falls down a flight of stairs. Oh and PS. I dont want offshore drilling simply cause I don't want to step in tar every time I visit my sanctuary. lalalallaa PSS... __________________ 1996 4x4 3.4L 4Runner on 35's - 6" of lift, MTR's, E-locked, ARB Tacoma Bumper, Sliders and a cut off tail pipe. 1966 FJ40 - SOA with stock springs, stock 1F motor, and a smelly tailpipe. Last edited by SC4Runner; 08-30-2008 at 05:58 PM.

08-31-2008, 09:56 AM	#21 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,174	I think it's funny that McCain goes after Obama for lack of experience and then he picks a VP with a whole lot less and one very few amercians have even heard of. She's also the govonor (only 2 years and before that was mayor of a city of 5000) of a state with less people in our "small" city of Denver and what if McCain,who is 72 and has cancer,goes down Palin is now in charge which isn't something I'd feel comfortable about. This thread remind me of how alot of republicans on this board just blindly supported Bush and his anti-constitutional tactics and supported the Iraq war and see where that has gotten us. This move by McCain is more about image than substance and is a last ditch effort to save his campaign but I think this move just helps the Dems. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub Last edited by X-AWDriver; 08-31-2008 at 10:27 AM.

09-01-2008, 07:50 AM	#25 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,548	SIMPLE MATH: 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS ISSUE Favors new drilling offshore US JOHN McCAIN: Yes BARAK OBAMA: No Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it McCAIN: Yes OBAMA: No Served in the US Armed Forces McCAIN: Yes OBAMA: No Amount of time served in the US Senate McCAIN: 22 YEARS OBAMA: 143 DAYS Will institute a socialized national health care plan McCAIN: No OBAMA: Yes Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy McCAIN: No OBAMA: Yes Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately McCAIN: No OBAMA: Yes Supports gun ownership rights McCAIN: Yes OBAMA: No Supports homosexual marriage McCAIN: No OBAMA: Yes Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase McCAIN: No OBAMA: Yes Voted against making English the official language McCAIN: No OBAMA: Yes Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals McCAIN: No OBAMA: Yes CAPITAL GAINS TAX MCCAIN 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax. OBAMA 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.) DIVIDEND TAX MCCAIN 15% (no change) OBAMA 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.') INCOME TAX MCCAIN (no changes) Single making 30K - tax $4,500 Single making 50K - tax $12,500 Single making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 60K- tax $9,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250 OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts) Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Under Obama, your taxes could almost double! INHERITANCE TAX MCCAIN - 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax) OBAMA Restore the inheritance tax Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes. NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!! You can verify the above at the following web sites: http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/e...008/index.html http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/iss...ues.taxes.html http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/p..._on_taxes.html http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-.../barack_obama/ http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-...s/john_mccain/ Discuss amongst yourselves. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

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