Obama Just Endorsed by Terrorist Organization Hamas

4Mogger · 04-18-2008, 11:18 PM

Wow.

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fork · 04-19-2008, 12:41 AM

It helps when your name both rhymes with Osama and contains Hussein.

I really wanted to vote democrat this election too :| oh well. the choices appeal to me about as much as refrigerated taco bell.

that aside, it pisses me off when people refer to him as "the Hawaiian candidate"..

Elvota · 04-19-2008, 01:55 AM

What did I miss?

All the article says is that the statement comparing Obama to Kennedy is a positive one. The Obama organization must like being in the same class as JFK.

"Axelrod focused on the Kennedy portion of Yousuf's quote and said he was "flattered" by the comparison.

He continued, "[Obama's] position on Hamas is very clear. Until they renounce violence, until they recognize Israel's right to exist and recognize previous agreements, we shouldn't have any contact with him."

What's so "WOW"??

Canuckistani · 04-19-2008, 02:28 AM

Who cares. Stupid propaganda.

CC_yota · 04-19-2008, 02:29 AM

Excuse my drunken ignorance, or ignorance in general, but I've never understood what was so amazing about JFK? Only being 22 I never experienced Kennedy's administration, but when people talk about JFK they seem to forget about the Bay of Pigs and the fact that he authorized the first deployment of American troops to Vietnam.

I understand he was a very charismatic individual and it seems that people adored him very much, and he was an icon of the time but it seems the only thing you really hear about is his assassination. I'm not trying to degrade the seriousness of an assassination of one of our presidents but what else did he do to earn the kind of admiration that he gets?

habanero · 04-19-2008, 05:38 AM

Eh. Certainly I'll not be steered towards or away from any candidate based on their 'opinion'.

AppleJack · 04-19-2008, 06:58 AM

I think the point being missed here, is not what the Obama staff replied to Hamas' compliments, but rather, why does a terrorist group like Hamas like Obama so much that they'd be compelled to make it a public statement. Hmmmm.

111db · 04-19-2008, 07:07 AM

If our government is currently considering Hamas isolated at this point, why does this article carry any bearing whatsoever?

Its basically irrelevent.

I can see why they were "flattered" by a JFK comparison though.

Elvota · 04-19-2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AppleJack

I think the point being missed here, is not what the Obama staff replied to Hamas' compliments, but rather, why does a terrorist group like Hamas like Obama so much that they'd be compelled to make it a public statement. Hmmmm.

I believe Hamas is often compelled to make many public statements... usually against the US and the current administration.

Should I start to pay relevance to those "press conferences" as well?

Is the suggestion of this thread that we as American's start to pay attention to the opinions of Hamas and somehow give them weight in our daily lives, especially when it comes to politics?

nc994run · 04-19-2008, 01:20 PM

Besides, you have to consider that they may be doing this to sabotage a particular candidate so that voters say "Oh, Hamas liked him so I'm not going to vote for him." There's no way to tell what their intent/ plan in doing this was, but if they were, they should be doing it to McCain since he's more in favor of not pulling out/ is the opposite of what Hamas would want

4Mogger · 04-19-2008, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC_yota

Excuse my drunken ignorance, or ignorance in general, but I've never understood what was so amazing about JFK? Only being 22 I never experienced Kennedy's administration, but when people talk about JFK they seem to forget about the Bay of Pigs and the fact that he authorized the first deployment of American troops to Vietnam.

I understand he was a very charismatic individual and it seems that people adored him very much, and he was an icon of the time but it seems the only thing you really hear about is his assassination. I'm not trying to degrade the seriousness of an assassination of one of our presidents but what else did he do to earn the kind of admiration that he gets?

He was a Democrat that invaded Vietnam. People only like him because he died before the police action became an endless bloodbath. You anti-war libs should take a look at our losses in VN and compare those to the relatively small number of US casualties in Iraq.

4Mogger · 04-19-2008, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

What did I miss?

All the article says is that the statement comparing Obama to Kennedy is a positive one. The Obama organization must like being in the same class as JFK.

"Axelrod focused on the Kennedy portion of Yousuf's quote and said he was "flattered" by the comparison.

He continued, "[Obama's] position on Hamas is very clear. Until they renounce violence, until they recognize Israel's right to exist and recognize previous agreements, we shouldn't have any contact with him."

What's so "WOW"??

What did you miss?

What did you miss?

The whole freaking point!

HAMAS HAS ENDORSED OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!

4Mogger · 04-19-2008, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nc994run

Besides, you have to consider that they may be doing this to sabotage a particular candidate so that voters say "Oh, Hamas liked him so I'm not going to vote for him." There's no way to tell what their intent/ plan in doing this was, but if they were, they should be doing it to McCain since he's more in favor of not pulling out/ is the opposite of what Hamas would want

I have no idea what you just wrote. Hamas is engaging in reverse psychology?

Maybe Hamas (TERRORISTS) actually wants Obama to become the POTUS? That is the primary reason that people and groups endorse a candidate!

When the father of the first Islamic state, Iran, endorses a candidate, any guesses who he will endorse? (Jimmy Carter)
You KNOW he is going to endorse Obama.

4Mogger · 04-19-2008, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

Is the suggestion of this thread that we as American's start to pay attention to the opinions of Hamas and somehow give them weight in our daily lives, especially when it comes to politics?

Uh, Yes? I know I care what they think. Especially since tens of thousands of innocent people have died because of what they think and how that affects their actions. Especially when we have one of the largest terrorist organizations in the world endorsing a candidate for President, hell yes I think we should pay attention to that! Kind of SCREAMS pay attention. doesn't it?

nc994run · 04-19-2008, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Mogger

I have no idea what you just wrote. Hamas is engaging in reverse psychology?

Maybe Hamas (TERRORISTS) actually wants Obama to become the POTUS? That is the primary reason that people and groups endorse a candidate!

When the father of the first Islamic state, Iran, endorses a candidate, any guesses who he will endorse? (Jimmy Carter)
You KNOW he is going to endorse Obama.

My point was that we can't know the intent of why they backed him. It could be reverse psychology, it might not be. Just something to consider when reading the article.

CC_yota · 04-20-2008, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Mogger

He was a Democrat that invaded Vietnam. People only like him because he died before the police action became an endless bloodbath. You anti-war libs should take a look at our losses in VN and compare those to the relatively small number of US casualties in Iraq.

I honestly don't understand where that comment came from. I'm no anti-war liberal. I'm so far away from being an anti-war liberal it's not even funny. Well, maybe some what humorous. I've always had a huge interest in Nam, and understand that the losses that we suffered in Nam are exponentially greater than what we've suffered in Iraq.

My first argument about the war in Iraq is that the number of soldiers lost pales in comparison to Vietnam, WWII and WWI. And trust me,being a conservative(actually more libertarian, but not hardcore) with the number of "liberals" on college campuses that debate is constant.

But all of that is besides the point. The only thing I gave a about was why JFK was/is so popular, and I honestly doubt that it was because police brutality wasn't prevalent until after his adminstration. Did we forget about Jim Crow Laws, lynching and the injustice placed upon the black community.

Elvota · 04-20-2008, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Mogger

Uh, Yes? I know I care what they think. Especially since tens of thousands of innocent people have died because of what they think and how that affects their actions. Especially when we have one of the largest terrorist organizations in the world endorsing a candidate for President, hell yes I think we should pay attention to that! Kind of SCREAMS pay attention. doesn't it?

You know what else I heard Hamas say... they say that if you feed soy to your male children they will all turn gay plus have a smaller penis!!! I swear, they said it... and I believe it... don't care how ridiculous it sounds. Any comment from Hamas demands recognition.

Wait a minute.. I got that wrong.

Actually, the same site (World Net Daily) that posted this story about Obama and the Hamas comment and started this whole thread is also telling people that soy makes children gay.

Silly me... hard to keep important information like this straight sometimes.

Fun read: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53327

I tell ya... those folks over at WND are cutting edge, and so refreshingly independent in their mindset.

Check out this non-bias bumper sticker:

Practically bleeding neutrality, just as they state in their mission statement

"WorldNetDaily.com Inc. is an independent news company dedicated to uncompromising journalism, seeking truth and justice and revitalizing the role of the free press as a guardian of liberty. We remain faithful to the traditional and central role of a free press in a free society – as a light exposing wrongdoing, corruption and abuse of power."

Funny... didn't come across any anti-Republican articles on their website. You'd think examples of wrongdoing, corruption and abuse of power could be found there as well.

X-AWDriver · 04-20-2008, 06:29 AM

We didn't belong in VN either and we learned nothing since we are now wasting men and resources in a war that will never won but most Republicans follow like blind sheep and can't see this.

I guess it's ok to waste human lives for another worthless cause 30 years later and ignorance makes it alright.

How many Iraqi civilians have paid the price with their lives since we only focus on our Soldiers? Even with Saddam in charge these people lives weren't in such disarray and don't want us there just like VN.

stormin94 · 04-21-2008, 12:11 AM

I think the fact that Jimmy Carter is meeting with TERRORISTS is an interesting thing. I'm only calling it interesting, because I don't quite know how to view it, or what will come from it.

Sorry, the 2008 Democratic candidates are a joke. They have strayed far from their roots as democrats, and have a rediculously harsh stance on everything, like healthcare, social security, Iraq war, etc. I'm not saying anything bad about the Democratic party, but the people that they want to represent ALL OF US in the White House are an enormous step in the wrong direction.

And everyone who bitches about the Iraq war fails to realize the overwhelming fact that every single one of the men and women over there are there because they want to be there, no one is forcing them.

Have we all forgotten about 3 years ago when many many war protestors tryed badmouthing the troops, and when they were getting the wrong kind of attention, they tryed something else that more people could relate to. Can you say alterior motive???

111db · 04-21-2008, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormin94

...the overwhelming fact that every single one of the men and women over there are there because they want to be there, no one is forcing them.

Certainly you jest.

X-AWDriver · 04-21-2008, 09:37 AM

And everyone who bitches about the Iraq war fails to realize the overwhelming fact that every single one of the men and women over there are there because they want to be there, no one is forcing them------

Actually it's easier to post that you are one of those blind republicans I'm referring to.

X-AWDriver · 04-21-2008, 09:50 AM

Alot of these soldiers have children that they haven't been a real part of their lives in 5 years so I find it hard to imagine that those soldiers really want to be fighting a war that really isn't accomplishing a thing and may never end. if they were over there fighting for OUR freedom they might think different but this isn't about protecting america;it's a plan to establish a permanent military outpost in the center of the midde east.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129577&page=1

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...oll-iraq_x.htm

Here's how many have died.........so far and is a total waste of good men and women.
http://antiwar.com/casualties/

CC_yota · 04-21-2008, 11:40 AM

I think Stormin's point is that we have a volunteer army. Those men and women chose the Armed Forces as their career path.

Plus, it's not like people haven't been enlisting or have come back from Iraq and re-enlisted. So I'd say it safe to say some of them do want to be there.

I agree with you X-AWDriver that a lot American casualties have been in vain but it's not like they had been drafted.

X-AWDriver · 04-21-2008, 12:20 PM

This "war" has probably kept more people from joining the forces than signing up. This isn't like WW2 when it was a patriotic effort,this war has polarized this nation and the soldiers fighting for the Bush admin.

The Military is running pretty lean and that's why you hear draft talk every once in a while.

4Mogger · 04-21-2008, 03:31 PM

I really liked this--it is funny--but also very true:

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Elvota Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,436	What did I miss? All the article says is that the statement comparing Obama to Kennedy is a positive one. The Obama organization must like being in the same class as JFK. "Axelrod focused on the Kennedy portion of Yousuf's quote and said he was "flattered" by the comparison. He continued, "[Obama's] position on Hamas is very clear. Until they renounce violence, until they recognize Israel's right to exist and recognize previous agreements, we shouldn't have any contact with him." What's so "WOW"?? __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY visit the sticki chronicles

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CC_yota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ATX/ Waco Posts: 378	Excuse my drunken ignorance, or ignorance in general, but I've never understood what was so amazing about JFK? Only being 22 I never experienced Kennedy's administration, but when people talk about JFK they seem to forget about the Bay of Pigs and the fact that he authorized the first deployment of American troops to Vietnam. I understand he was a very charismatic individual and it seems that people adored him very much, and he was an icon of the time but it seems the only thing you really hear about is his assassination. I'm not trying to degrade the seriousness of an assassination of one of our presidents but what else did he do to earn the kind of admiration that he gets? __________________ 95 4Runner- 3vze- A/T- 4.88's Currently LC Coils BJ Spacers SAW T-Bars 32x11.50 BFG A/T's 15x8 black Rockcrawlers Marlin Crawler rear bumper Last edited by CC_yota; 04-19-2008 at 02:35 AM.

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AppleJack Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Medford, Oregon Posts: 556	I think the point being missed here, is not what the Obama staff replied to Hamas' compliments, but rather, why does a terrorist group like Hamas like Obama so much that they'd be compelled to make it a public statement. Hmmmm. __________________ Fires, Friends, and Books Decree Wisdom, Strength, and Controversy. To believe with certainty, one must begin doubting.

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111db Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mesa AZ Posts: 1,215	If our government is currently considering Hamas isolated at this point, why does this article carry any bearing whatsoever? Its basically irrelevent. I can see why they were "flattered" by a JFK comparison though. __________________ Jon *97 4Runner 3.4 4.88's * ARB Lockers F/R * ARB compressor * Sonoran Steel numba 1 * 285 BFG AT/KO * TJM 17 * BudBuilt Skids * Stubbs Sliders & BBQ sauce * Irbis out back * Various Electronic Gadgets**

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nc994run Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: blacksburg,va for school chapel hill, nc for home Posts: 985	Besides, you have to consider that they may be doing this to sabotage a particular candidate so that voters say "Oh, Hamas liked him so I'm not going to vote for him." There's no way to tell what their intent/ plan in doing this was, but if they were, they should be doing it to McCain since he's more in favor of not pulling out/ is the opposite of what Hamas would want __________________ Rob 1999 4Runner Limited 4x4, retrofitted e-locker/ ARB front locker with 4.88 Precision Gears, Tundra/LC lift, 2" 4Crawler BL, Nitto Mud Grappler 35's on 16x8, Marlin sliders, TJM T-15, Warn M8000 w/ synthetic line, Mad Mike's custom rear Bumper, deckplate and ISR mods, Vortex Muffler, custom made tube doors pictures here I support Banned Neliconcept

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	We didn't belong in VN either and we learned nothing since we are now wasting men and resources in a war that will never won but most Republicans follow like blind sheep and can't see this. I guess it's ok to waste human lives for another worthless cause 30 years later and ignorance makes it alright. How many Iraqi civilians have paid the price with their lives since we only focus on our Soldiers? Even with Saddam in charge these people lives weren't in such disarray and don't want us there just like VN. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub Last edited by X-AWDriver; 04-20-2008 at 06:31 AM.

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stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,539	I think the fact that Jimmy Carter is meeting with TERRORISTS is an interesting thing. I'm only calling it interesting, because I don't quite know how to view it, or what will come from it. Sorry, the 2008 Democratic candidates are a joke. They have strayed far from their roots as democrats, and have a rediculously harsh stance on everything, like healthcare, social security, Iraq war, etc. I'm not saying anything bad about the Democratic party, but the people that they want to represent ALL OF US in the White House are an enormous step in the wrong direction. And everyone who bitches about the Iraq war fails to realize the overwhelming fact that every single one of the men and women over there are there because they want to be there, no one is forcing them. Have we all forgotten about 3 years ago when many many war protestors tryed badmouthing the troops, and when they were getting the wrong kind of attention, they tryed something else that more people could relate to. Can you say alterior motive??? __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	And everyone who bitches about the Iraq war fails to realize the overwhelming fact that every single one of the men and women over there are there because they want to be there, no one is forcing them------ Actually it's easier to post that you are one of those blind republicans I'm referring to. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub Last edited by X-AWDriver; 04-21-2008 at 09:39 AM.

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	Alot of these soldiers have children that they haven't been a real part of their lives in 5 years so I find it hard to imagine that those soldiers really want to be fighting a war that really isn't accomplishing a thing and may never end. if they were over there fighting for OUR freedom they might think different but this isn't about protecting america;it's a plan to establish a permanent military outpost in the center of the midde east. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129577&page=1 http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...oll-iraq_x.htm Here's how many have died.........so far and is a total waste of good men and women. http://antiwar.com/casualties/ __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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CC_yota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ATX/ Waco Posts: 378	I think Stormin's point is that we have a volunteer army. Those men and women chose the Armed Forces as their career path. Plus, it's not like people haven't been enlisting or have come back from Iraq and re-enlisted. So I'd say it safe to say some of them do want to be there. I agree with you X-AWDriver that a lot American casualties have been in vain but it's not like they had been drafted. __________________ 95 4Runner- 3vze- A/T- 4.88's Currently LC Coils BJ Spacers SAW T-Bars 32x11.50 BFG A/T's 15x8 black Rockcrawlers Marlin Crawler rear bumper

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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,176	This "war" has probably kept more people from joining the forces than signing up. This isn't like WW2 when it was a patriotic effort,this war has polarized this nation and the soldiers fighting for the Bush admin. The Military is running pretty lean and that's why you hear draft talk every once in a while. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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4Mogger Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montrose, CO Posts: 637	I really liked this--it is funny--but also very true: Last edited by 4Mogger; 04-21-2008 at 03:32 PM.

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