Micael Phelps:scandal or not? - Page 3

NRandall · 02-03-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Toyvana

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Some people also prefer their cucumbers pickled.

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surf4runner · 02-03-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by leebee

a canadian snow boarder tested positive for canibis after winning his gold medal. never lost the medal

shaun white, still has it!
'performance enhanced', indeed

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Originally Posted by SC4Runner

Lastly, who the HELL would take a picture of you and then release it to the public like that? What a douche...

exactly. and they wonder why stoners are paranoid

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Originally Posted by fustercluck

I suppose this is the trouble with elevating human beings to role model status. We will ultimately be disappointed and our standards will decay as we excuse poor judgment and behavior.

like our last president...

mkgarrison5 · 02-04-2009, 06:55 AM

its just pot jeesh.. the man just broke every record for swimming known to man it seems like. let him puff.. he aint hurtin' nobody... now for the jack--- that took took the pic needs a beat down for sure

***fustercluck*** · 02-04-2009, 06:59 AM

...and our current president?

ozziesironmanoffroad · 02-04-2009, 07:26 AM

lets hope he does well, and legalizes weed, that will help fix the economy with the extra taxes theyd get, and thats all im going to say about obama, cuz this isnt a political thread and i dont want to stir the pot.

nosfanatic2006 · 02-04-2009, 08:02 AM

We'll just have to wait and see on both accounts. Not much we can really do about Phelp's or our current President. . .

hostile · 02-04-2009, 08:56 AM

lol, i think his apology is funny actually. He's using a ROOR bong. Anyone that smokes knows those bongs will run you about 500 bucks in the hole (i own one myself) and is definitely not a piece for a first time smoker. Not to mention he knew exactly how to use it which shows this wasn't his first time smoking weed and probably not his last time either. To be honest i'm glad hes doing it but that's because i'm also a fellow marijuana enthusiast so my opinion is a little biased. I just wish he wouldn't have apologized.

You would have never heard a word about it if it was alcohol.

hostile · 02-04-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

lets hope he does well, and legalizes weed, that will help fix the economy with the extra taxes theyd get, and thats all im going to say about obama, cuz this isnt a political thread and i dont want to stir the pot.

He won't. At least not in his first term. He's repeatedly said that he does not support the legalization of marijuana. I wouldn't expect any action until a second term (if he gets it) where he's not taking any risks.

**DeathCougar** · 02-04-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hostile

You would have never heard a word about it if it was alcohol.

I disagree. Many public figures are in the news every day for their consumption of alcohol. Besides that, Marijuana is illegal. Whether or not you think it should be is besides the point, so lets not use that arguement. Point and case is, he broke the law. Same thing applies for people who drink and drive. Not too long ago Pacman jones was arrested on DUI charges, so you cannot tell me there are no news stories for alcohol.

You seem to always compare alcohol use and marijuana use. While drinking alcohol is not illegal, drinking in excess IS illegal, as well is drinking in driving. The long and short of it is that breaking the law IS ILLEGAL.

eighty5yota · 02-04-2009, 09:16 AM

PASS IT MIKEY!!!!

**DeathCougar** · 02-04-2009, 09:18 AM

For the record, here are a few news stories of people arrested for DUI:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3874714

http://patterico.com/2009/01/29/judg...olice-officer/

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/28527070/

hostile · 02-04-2009, 09:21 AM

He wasn't in the news for drinking, he was in the news for drinking & driving and getting caught in the process. That was a bad decision led on by a substance that promotes bad judgment.

Marijuana is just not a big deal in most peoples eyes. At least here in Cali if you stand up and say "i smoke weed" half the room will reply with a "who cares? sit back down". I get that he's supposed to be a role model and all, but what he does in the privacy of his own home/a friends home isn't anyone's business and shouldn't effect his professional life.

The media is the criminal here, not Michael Phelps.

**DeathCougar** · 02-04-2009, 09:37 AM

We have already discussed Marijuanas affects on judgement, so i wont get into that one again.

The law is pretty cut and dry. The use of marijuana is illegal. This is a fact you cannot dispute. Again, whether is should or should not be legal is not rellevant to this discussion. FACT; he broke the law. Plain and simple.

The media is part of the problem, you and I agree on that. If not for the media, there wouldn't be a problem here, only because no one would know about it. But, fact of the matter is, the Media will always be there, and this sort of thing will always make the news storys. It doesn't make it any more legal. Someone in the public eye, who is public role model, should be expected to act in a professional and distinguished manner at all times.

hostile · 02-04-2009, 09:48 AM

Alright, well we'll leave it with that one agreement.

I just feel that people should be reasonable is all.

..he'd make one hell of a pro-marijuana spokesman though. I smell future sponsorships.

**DeathCougar** · 02-04-2009, 09:50 AM

I do like the Weedies box lol.

His saying can be "I smoke just before I swim, and I won 7 gold metals! I'm going to Disneyworld!!!"

eighty5yota · 02-04-2009, 09:54 AM

come on guys.. after all his lungs ARE like 40% more efficient than ours..
thats gotta be intense.

hostile · 02-04-2009, 10:16 AM

lol

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/441246/

hross14 · 02-04-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathCougar

The law is pretty cut and dry. The use of marijuana is illegal. This is a fact you cannot dispute. Again, whether is should or should not be legal is not rellevant to this discussion. FACT; he broke the law. Plain and simple.

True--but we are Americans and it is in our blood to fight for reasonablness:

Fact--It was legal to shoot Mormons in NV (taken off books in 1990)
Fact--Boston Tea Party
Fact--Absinthe was illegal until 2008 i do believe
Fact--Sodamy (Anal sex) was illegal in alot of states for awhile
Fact--Playboy--and the rest--have gone through XXXX number of lawsuits defending its industry
Fact--Adult play toys used to be Illegal in Texas....
Fact--Hydrogenated oils are considered by many doctors as one of the worst inventions ever--our bodies dont know what to do with it
Fact--High Frictose Corn syrup is really not a food, but a chemical

Many laws put on the books are not the will of the majority but somebodies personal crusade---San Fran trying to Ban strong colognes/perfumes

Not trying to be a butt--but

i think its great people stand up and say this just doesnt make sense.

I am all for people living thier lives how they want so as they are personable towrads their fellow countrymen.

904_runner · 02-04-2009, 11:12 AM

Live how you want. I could care less.

But if you endanger me or anybody else, is when i start to have a problem with how people make choices.

Somebody said if he wanted to party, then STAY PUT. I agree.

**DeathCougar** · 02-04-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hross14

True--but we are Americans and it is in our blood to fight for reasonablness:

Fact--It was legal to shoot Mormons in NV (taken off books in 1990)
Fact--Boston Tea Party
Fact--Absinthe was illegal until 2008 i do believe
Fact--Sodamy (Anal sex) was illegal in alot of states for awhile
Fact--Playboy--and the rest--have gone through XXXX number of lawsuits defending its industry
Fact--Adult play toys used to be Illegal in Texas....
Fact--Hydrogenated oils are considered by many doctors as one of the worst inventions ever--our bodies dont know what to do with it
Fact--High Frictose Corn syrup is really not a food, but a chemical

Many laws put on the books are not the will of the majority but somebodies personal crusade---San Fran trying to Ban strong colognes/perfumes

Not trying to be a butt--but

i think its great people stand up and say this just doesnt make sense.

I am all for people living thier lives how they want so as they are personable towrads their fellow countrymen.

Like i said, we are not talking about something that SHOULD or SHOULD NOT be legalized. That has nothing to do with this situation. Fact is, it is CURRENTLY Illegal. The debate on should or shouldn't be legal would rage on for days here.

X-AWDriver · 02-04-2009, 01:11 PM

"While drinking alcohol is not illegal, drinking in excess IS illegal"

Is that really illegal?

Denver has legalized possesion of an ounce or less of Pot by an adult but it is governed by state law that will slap you with a whopping $100 fine.

Phelps apologized and he'll be fine with most of his sponsors and fans alike.

hross14 · 02-04-2009, 01:34 PM

Is smoking pot Illegal in that state?

Poll by Fox Sport of 418,000 people say

21%--Cant Believe it--i am hurt

79%--Who cares

That officially qualifies for jury nolification--Not guilty

And as typical--everybody is worried about the money he has lost to sponsors--Who CARES--it was his money to lose

He could ned up being one of the most prolific persons of this century for peoples individual rights

gilby4runner · 02-04-2009, 01:43 PM

Granted it was his money to lose and it was his choice but a person needs to consider the impact of their actions. A lot of people including kids look up to him and consider him a role model and a hero. Your poll percentages just shows how the american society is becoming numb to our role models being stupid at times.

hostile · 02-04-2009, 01:45 PM

Yeah,to be honest this doesn't hurt his reputation at all with me. In fact a sponsor dropping him would be stupid because he just gained the millions of marijuana activists as fans. Put his face on a box of chicken in a biskit crackers and i'll buy that in a second. lol

I myself respect him even more knowing he smokes pot and is still very successful in life. He's set an example and broke us free of the stereotypical pothead image.

gilby4runner · 02-04-2009, 02:05 PM

I am glad that millions of pot smokers can now rally and watch him swim in the Olympics. Also, that you feel freed from your "pot head" image. I hope you can inhale a little easier tonight. His actions are seen and judged my millions. Little kids want to grow up to be him. I feel that what he does is his business but he should consider the impact upon his image and the influence that he carries.

02-04-2009, 06:55 AM	#53 (permalink)
mkgarrison5 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NC Posts: 1,516	its just pot jeesh.. the man just broke every record for swimming known to man it seems like. let him puff.. he aint hurtin' nobody... now for the jack--- that took took the pic needs a beat down for sure __________________ 02 Tacoma 4-Dr 4x4 V6 117k miles

02-04-2009, 06:59 AM	#54 (permalink)
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eighty5yota Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: san jose cali Posts: 613	come on guys.. after all his lungs ARE like 40% more efficient than ours.. thats gotta be intense. __________________ 85 single cab longBOB 18'' gone, 4 inch peice-o-crap rancho lift, roger brown 3 inch body lift, 33x12.5x15 MT/R, flat black (apparently non responsive to radar guns =] ) 16 speaker sound system with 10 boston 6x9's, 2 phoenix gold tweeters,2 4x6 infinity's and 2 kicker 12's 2400w. PERFORMANCE MODS: heavy right foot, quick left foot

02-04-2009, 08:56 AM	#57 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	lol, i think his apology is funny actually. He's using a ROOR bong. Anyone that smokes knows those bongs will run you about 500 bucks in the hole (i own one myself) and is definitely not a piece for a first time smoker. Not to mention he knew exactly how to use it which shows this wasn't his first time smoking weed and probably not his last time either. To be honest i'm glad hes doing it but that's because i'm also a fellow marijuana enthusiast so my opinion is a little biased. I just wish he wouldn't have apologized. You would have never heard a word about it if it was alcohol.

02-04-2009, 09:21 AM	#62 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	He wasn't in the news for drinking, he was in the news for drinking & driving and getting caught in the process. That was a bad decision led on by a substance that promotes bad judgment. Marijuana is just not a big deal in most peoples eyes. At least here in Cali if you stand up and say "i smoke weed" half the room will reply with a "who cares? sit back down". I get that he's supposed to be a role model and all, but what he does in the privacy of his own home/a friends home isn't anyone's business and shouldn't effect his professional life. The media is the criminal here, not Michael Phelps.

02-04-2009, 09:48 AM	#64 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Alright, well we'll leave it with that one agreement. I just feel that people should be reasonable is all. ..he'd make one hell of a pro-marijuana spokesman though. I smell future sponsorships.

02-04-2009, 10:16 AM	#67 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	lol http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/441246/

02-04-2009, 11:12 AM	#69 (permalink)
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X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,179	"While drinking alcohol is not illegal, drinking in excess IS illegal" Is that really illegal? Denver has legalized possesion of an ounce or less of Pot by an adult but it is governed by state law that will slap you with a whopping $100 fine. Phelps apologized and he'll be fine with most of his sponsors and fans alike. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

02-04-2009, 01:34 PM	#72 (permalink)
hross14 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 1,170	Is smoking pot Illegal in that state? Poll by Fox Sport of 418,000 people say 21%--Cant Believe it--i am hurt 79%--Who cares That officially qualifies for jury nolification--Not guilty And as typical--everybody is worried about the money he has lost to sponsors--Who CARES--it was his money to lose He could ned up being one of the most prolific persons of this century for peoples individual rights __________________ Yes, I said "country." America really is a nation, but you couldn't convince those who lead the Democratic and Republican Parties of that. Both parties now see America as nothing more than an economy, a marketplace, and not a sovereign nation. They don't see you and me as citizens of this great nation; they see us as units of labor, consumers and taxpayers. Yes, I am here to collect my 238$ worth of stock from AIG. "What do you mean a free market economy doesnt apply to the rich?"

02-04-2009, 01:45 PM	#74 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Yeah,to be honest this doesn't hurt his reputation at all with me. In fact a sponsor dropping him would be stupid because he just gained the millions of marijuana activists as fans. Put his face on a box of chicken in a biskit crackers and i'll buy that in a second. lol I myself respect him even more knowing he smokes pot and is still very successful in life. He's set an example and broke us free of the stereotypical pothead image.

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