Gangus2006

In the past week, Ive had cops come to my house twice, and Ive been approached by the police officer at school once. The first time, the chief or whatever of the traffic devision came to my house. The 4Runner was parked out front. He asked me who's vehicle that was, to which I replied "Mine. Well, my dad." He told me to grab my license, and go out to his car. I was cuffed, seated in the back of his car, while he was copying dowm my info. License, registration, and insurance. I had not asked one question until this. After he lets me out of the cuffs and car, I asked what that was for. He tells me my neighbors called and said I was driving recklessly down the street, spinning my tires. (Uhh...brand new tires, rain, decent power...just think) He says if he gets another call, he'll take away my license, and "confiscate" the vehicle. Second time, a regular police officer came. He starts bitching at me, saying its stupid to be driving recklessly down the street when kids are around. He says its my last warning. Today, I was stopped by the police officer at school on my way out. I was driving hte 4Runner. He says on two occasions, Last monday, and friday, the janitor at school saw me "doing laps" around hte student parking lot, and spinning my tires. I got an earful from the officer for that one. I asked "What was I driving Monday" to which he replies "The vehicle youre driving now". However, that monday, the 4Runer was in the shop getting some things checked, new tires put on, and I had the Tacoma. I get hte "do it again and Ill make sure you dont drive for a long time" threat...again... Now, on none of these occasions, did any police actually witness me do anything wrong. Can they really bust me going by what others say? This is ÅÅÅÅin retarded.

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It's not retarded if you are actually doing this. And don't worry, I am not judging you cause I did stupid crap too, and I did it quite often. To answer your question, yes they can do something. With enough reports, they are simply building a case against you. You currently have multiple reports of different instances of mischief. Once they get enough evidence, they can prosecute you for endangerment or similar. Figure it this way, even if the case gets dropped, you are still going to have to deal with going to court and defending yourself. So it's going to be a hassle all the way around.

It's time to cool it. I wasn't as lucky as you, I just got plain busted for the stuff I pulled.

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Gangus2006

Heres the thing. I wouldnt drive like that. My motto is "Better late than dead". I dont need to rush somewhere. I have spun my tires once, and that was getting used to how the tires were gonna do int he rain.

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Are you saying that people are making stuff up? Or are you saying that people are exaggerating?

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Probably exxagerating. They said I was in a vehicle I wasnt in. How is driving around hte parking lot at 5-10MPH looking for someone "doing laps"? How is going 30MPH down an empty street "reckless"?

tulsa_97SR5

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I did stuff like this too, but isn't this your post?

http://www.yotatech.com/showpost.php...98&postcount=1

Seems feasible that people have seen you driving a little crazy & reported it. I had to pay for a couple big tickets before I really mellowed my driving out.

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Gangus2006

What I meant was on road. When Im in a big empty field it isnt like Im gonna hit some kid running accross the street chasing his ball.

I know where and when I can and cant do things. Im not stupid. I might've only had my license for 3 weeks, but Ive been driving for over 2 years. I know how to drive, no matter what anyone says.

Silver_Truck

From what I've heard cops aren't allowed to cuff you or put you in their vehicle unless they sense that they are in danger or until they cite you for what you've done...they don't cuff you until they've read you ur rights they can get in deep ÅÅÅÅ for it, at least they do here

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FilthyRich

16 year old driving new 4runner and Taco. You have been seen tearing up a field and driving fast. you can argue "i am good driver" all you want, but the fact is you are young and have not made the best decisions behind a wheel lately. I am NOT judging you. Hell, I am only 26 and had my fair share of....that is another story for another time.
Calm down a bit. 4 wheel on trails or where you have permission. Drive the speed limit--especially in residential neighborhoods. And most importantly, familiarize yourself with the law. You cannot be detained or cuffed without being read your miranda rights.

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Gangus-

I don't think there is any need to get defensive. We are more or less trying to talk some sense into you since we did similar things. You are saying that people are exaggerating, yet you also have a post about doing 90MPH in some field. We are not stupid either, and we are speaking from experience.

Traffic citations caused me a lot of problems, not only financially, but in my job searches at your same age. They follow you around for years. It sucks.

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94x4

Listen & learn, "Gangus", we've all pretty much been there & done that.
Not to mention that they can and will take your new ride and license away from you, so don't let it go that far.
Admittedly, with your age & having the new rides, you're probally incurring some jealousy from those in your 'hood who either don't now or did'nt then have the ability to drive what you are and don't like seeing, in their eyes, some young punk showing them up and rubbing it in their faces by your needlessly attracting attention to yourself....believe me...you...new 'Runner, they see you.
In circumstances like that, it is always best to chill when you're out in the public eye and enjoy yourself fully when you're out on an allowed trail or off roading somewhere.
Just a liitle 411 for you to sketch to keep that new 'Runner under your a**, word!

Gangus2006

Times like this Im glad I got a 3500lb truck as opposed to a small sports sedan (IS300). Its really rediculous though. My sister is friends with the daughter of the guy down the street who bought a Frontier hte same time I got my Taco. The little girl told my sister her dad was calling the cops on me, becuase he "hates my guts"

jimstoy

When my two boys are out side playing, my idea of what I think is to fast for my street differ greatly from the kids driving down it. I don't think I would involve the police until my talks with the kids parents didn't work out. My driving record speaks for it's self. Lotsa tickets from 18 to 25. Now my wild driving is offroad. It's a lot safer.
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First off, whether you're in a big open field doesn't matter, as I remember, this isn't a designated off road area, that is some one's land, and you shouldn't be doing that there unless you know for 110% that you can. Because it's not being used is not a reason either.

Second, driving for two years doesn't mean squat. There are people on this board that have been driving longer than you have been alive.

Now, I don't know you, however, I feel it's safe to say that there could be a good reason for these people calling the cops. I don't think they are the only ones exaggerating. Like I said, I don't know you, but I do know what it's like to be 16, so don't try and kid all of us.

I hope that these things make a good impression on you. Personal responsibility is something that all of us need to face, and you're at that age right now. Step up, be a man, accept that you got caught, and don't do it again. I'm only telling you this for your own good. I was there before, as well as many people here on this board, it's not a fun road to travel down.

It’s also funny, because you and my brother are about the same age, I tried to give him advice, did he listen? Not right away. That’s until there was a sequence of events that took place and really opened up his eyes, now he listens.

Whether you take my advice is up to you, I don’t care either way. I’m not trying to preach to you, I’m just trying to make life much easier on you by giving you advice on where I messed up. Take it or leave it, it’s fully up to you.

CynicX

this happened to my buddy who has a 350z. The cops came out three times reporting he was driving recklessly.

The first time he was home sick, he had his wisdom teeth removed and was so drugged up be barely knew what was happening.

The second time. He was in SC visiting me (he lives in MD). His mother blasted the cop saying that her son wasnt even in town and hasnt been in town for days.

The third time. After having a clear mind he was furious since his car was in the shop having a his Nismo wing installed. He told the cop the car was in the shop making it impossible for him to be driving it. I mean the car wasnt even in the driveway when the cop was there it was still at the shop. He gave the cop his lawyers business card and told him it was probably a jealous neighbor making crap up, so next time they get a call to contact his lawyer. He then told the cops next time they come and talk to him they better have a warrent for his arrest because hes tired of being harassed on obviously made up circumstances. Then he slammed the door in the cops face (i dont agree with that since the cop was doing his job, but I do understand my buddies frustration).

We both think its a neighbor down the road who just bought a new cobalt and its a real pos, at least compared to his 350z. The kid always comes up talking crap and TRIES to race him on the street. We have no proof though.

But in your case if you are driving recklessly the best thing to do would be to stop. I used to drive like a mad man until I was flying down a back room and there was a card board sign that said "Speed Limit 25. A speeder killed my child". This really woke me up since I realized it wasnt worth killing a child over so I could satisfy my need to speed.

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The real problem with this is we don't know who actually did what, that is the problem with all these types of discussions on forums, maybe you were going fast, maybe it just seemed fast, I was doing 30 (the speed limit) down a paved rd and downshifted to go up a hill in Fitchburg the other day and had some lady flip me off and scream "slow down". I know it is childish but that just annoys me.
This kind of stuff is bull, you hear everywhere how eyewitness testimony is always flawed and yet cops believe every word someone says, I bet unless your neighbor got video of you doing it, you could beat it in court, of course you don't want to have to actually waste all that time and money in court to do it. I know you can get in trouble for it without having a cop witness it, I just think it is bull. Part of the problem also is that if he sees you go too fast once and wants to call the cops, he wants to make it beleivable and not sound like some cranky old guy randomly calling so of course he is going to say he has seen it "multiple times".
I once had someone call my parents back when I was in high school and say they saw me being reckless that very day, they described my car and everything, except that I had gotten rid of that car the previous week! I mean a 4runner is pretty common and I see a fair amount of 05 tacomas now also...I think that if someone sees you doing something the police shouldn't be able to get you for it unless they actually catch you, it is too easy for someone to try to screw you because you slept with their daughter or something.
Start calling the cops on him, hell, tell me what he drives and his plate number and I will call the cops on him for you, I was driving through your neighborhood just the other day and that very guy was riding my a$$ so I pulled over and he blasted by me nearly taking off my mirror!

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Ironmike4x4

Thats when you turn on your auxillary back up lamps and the strobes if you have them. Anyways gangus, oddly enough I am gonna be on your side. The cop had NO RIGHT at all to cuff you and not even read you your miranda rights. I would definitely think about getting a lawyer about that. As far as the statements, I would maybe find out who is saying it and maybe even have an investigator try to nail them for filing a false report.

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jimbo74

how many times have they actually ticketed you? if none, dont worry about it unless they catch you spinning your tires... they can make all the reports they want, but a report isnt going to do crap if you were never cited for anything.....

also i think you have cause to go talk to an attorney and file a suit against the city... they cant come to your house, put you in cuffs and make you sit in the cop car unless you are arrested... never in all my years of driving has that ever happened to me... and i have been pulled over many times... also had a few so called reports against me... our school cop... knew how i drove, but never caught me breaking hte law, there fore he jsut had a bad attitude towards me, but wasn't a darn thing he could do about it.....

94x4

Yes, the officer may be at fault for the actions he took;
Yes, you could sue the city for the actions of the various officers;
However, you're only 16, living somewhere where you will have to for some time, so do you really want to be on the "bad side" of every officer in that state for as long as you are there because you busted on one of their own who was merely, by all accounts, doing his job (even if his tactics were a bit over done, sorta giving you a taste of what you can expect if you're caught), remember, he did'nt call in on you, someone else did!
Every statewide officer who'll just be itching for the opportunity to ticket or arrest you for any possible infraction you might commit, like a tail light, expired plate, whatever ?
The best thing to do would be to simply chill out and if you see the or a officer again, just explain that you are sorry for the inconvenience of his having to come out to address this issue when it's obviously a matter of "penis envy".
He'll get a kick out of that, understand and probally give the person who's been calling in on you an ear full, too. The police make way better friends than they do enemies, word.

Boaz

Honestly I have been your age and done all of these things before. From my experience if you drive crazy, it will catch up to you. In your case, your lucky you have not been nailed yet. When you do get nailed for wreckless driving it will make your parents ins go way up. If your parents are like mine, every ticket I got in HS cost me my license for 3 months. THats right 3 months, no cruisin, no picking up my girl...nadda. I did not drive anything but the lawn mower for 3 months.... and lemme tell you, that sucks to ride the bus or have friends pick you up for school.

You are very fourtunate to drive such new vehicles at such a young age. I had to work my ass off for my car when I was in HS. The only reason I have a new car now is because I can just NOW afford a new car at 23 years old. I have paid high ins. premiums for years now.. I totally regret all of my traffic violations. They are expensive lessons. SO its up to you, just be consious of how you drive.. no matter where you are.

Like my old mans says "Some learn the hard way, and some never do." Take if from someone who learned the hard way.. chill out and slow down and these problems will go away on thier own.


BTW , Cops can cuff you for anything, its "for your own safety"
Everytime I have been questioned officially by the law it was always in cuffs.
But it is obvious he was trying to scare you. Thats kinda messed up, but perfectly legal.

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waskillywabbit

Another thread about how "bad" cops are and about how innocent everyone is...sorry, but avoiding even the appearance of illegal or criminal activity will keep you out of trouble 99% of the time.

The guilty dog barks first...and loudest.

Don't do anything to get in trouble for and you won't. It is as simple as that. If you get offended at such simple advice, then obviously you have a LOT of growing up to do and are probably projecting your guilt louder than you know.

Be glad you didn't crash into someone or injure someone and consider this a cheap lesson learned.

Let's hope you were paying attention.

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Gangus2006

Im not getting offended. I appreciate you guys trying to help.

I kinda cant wait til I get my bike. "He was doing wheelies down the street!"

Boaz

Dude a bike is really the last thing you need. Honestly.

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waskillywabbit

Good, cause what I told you is good advice someone gave me about 20 years ago...I was always not doing anything but still finding trouble...I was completely and totally innocent! :wink: :wink:

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actually, they can under SOME certain circumstances.

it's called a TERRY STOPS: http://www.expertlaw.com/library/cri...ice_stops.html


dont you people watch COPS?????????

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