Trooper Is a toyota on the juice

codyeller · 02-05-2009, 11:15 PM

Troopers are dang near indistructable!!!!!!!

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X-AWDriver · 02-06-2009, 07:39 AM

Weak post w/o a little more story to go with the title.

gilby4runner · 02-06-2009, 07:43 AM

Good point.... but just wait until you have to go and pay outragious prices at the dealer to get the junk worked on. Way to many dealer specific parts. Have you gone back to your "Trooper Board" and bragged about posting this?

86Toyrunna · 02-06-2009, 08:16 AM

i see one major thing wrong with them, there not a TOYOTA... im assuming that you have not seen the show TOP GEAR and how they could not kill there HILUX!!!.....i work on industrial Izuzu turbo diesel engines (6BG, 6HK, 6UZ,4BD serries to name a few) they can build a good solid diesel.. cars and trucks, not so much.. sorry bud, this is a yota forum, pretty sure none of us on here would ditch our 4runners, crusiers, pickups, or tacos for any other 4x4.

flashkl · 02-06-2009, 08:36 AM

my uncle had a honda horizon (jdm trooper rebadge) with the 3.1 turbodiesel....it was a good looking and a great truck for roadtrips and the engine was a beast but the thing was pretty heavy, tippy, and just not built for offroading. A yota is great because they are very capable in stock form. I wouldn't wheel a trooper until i had a good amount into the tires, suspension, and armor. All this is referring to 2nd gens, 1st gens were like runners in capability, but when they redid it, they softened it way too much.

89silverpu · 02-06-2009, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by codyeller

Troopers are dang near indistructable!!!!!!!

The key word, near, Toyotas ARE indistructable.

91diesel · 02-06-2009, 09:36 AM

They are also dang near no trade in value!! My buddy just traded in his clean 94 4wd. KBB was $1300! My 91 truck (not suv!) with a butt load more miles is $1700 in good condition.

His MT and plastic radiator tanks.....indestructible I tell ya!

stormin94 · 02-07-2009, 12:21 AM

Hey, troopers are very capable, but are also very flawed when it comes to design. The engineers at Isuzu at the idea right when they built the trooper, they just went about building it all wrong. It's ugly, it's slow, it's heavy, the interior is plain, poor MPG at best, limited aftermarket, tough to find parts for. A few high points are, decent motor(although not by any means powerful), decent off road ability(just so no side angles are involved), decent ground clearance, built sturdy.

But other than that, this is a TOYOTA forum, and most people here will agree that we own Toyota's rather than Isuzu's because Toyotas are better.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 02-07-2009, 05:16 AM

we had a 91 trooper, and i swear that thing would not die. i beat the heck out of it offroad while my chevy was in the shop getting a front disk brake conversion, and even pulled out a taco and towed it uphill with the trooper. theyre like anything else, take care of em they'll last. theyre a good rig, but my 22re has more power. well... more than the 91 anyway. not to mention theyre fun to drive, i still regret crashing it. but hey at least it took out a ford!

flashkl · 02-07-2009, 05:28 AM

lol, ya 1st gens were bada*s. Then 2nd gens came along. More like larda*s.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 02-07-2009, 05:33 AM

was the 91 considered 1st gen or 2nd gen?im not 'up there' with isuzu knowledge

flashkl · 02-07-2009, 05:49 AM

Up to 91 1st gen

92 up 2nd gen

Oh, and I just realized from the wikipedia page that my uncles 3.1 turbodiesel was a 4 cylinder! I always thought that thing was a 6....man it had balls!

ozziesironmanoffroad · 02-07-2009, 06:00 AM

thenyeah we had a 1st gen. the alternator always got fried, the fuel pump went out 12 times in the 10 years we had it, but the engine never fried. what pissed me off though is that you couldnt use an impact on the wheel lugnuts... if u did, they'd strip out. haha. every time we took it to a tire place we'd have to replace the lug nuts and studs. (i thought it was the tire shops rippin us off until we got a flat one morning and i used my neighbors air compressor and impact gun... talk about a PITA...

**waskillywabbit** · 02-07-2009, 06:10 AM

Psst. This is a Toyota forum Cody!

and Isuzus are girly men trucks compared to Toyotas!

02-06-2009, 07:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
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02-06-2009, 08:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
86Toyrunna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: B-TOWN, ORYGUN Posts: 431	i see one major thing wrong with them, there not a TOYOTA... im assuming that you have not seen the show TOP GEAR and how they could not kill there HILUX!!!.....i work on industrial Izuzu turbo diesel engines (6BG, 6HK, 6UZ,4BD serries to name a few) they can build a good solid diesel.. cars and trucks, not so much.. sorry bud, this is a yota forum, pretty sure none of us on here would ditch our 4runners, crusiers, pickups, or tacos for any other 4x4. __________________ current: 1986 4Runner, Rebuilt 22RE with engnbldr HP head, cam'd, battery/intake swap, SASed, 5.29s, detroit rear, 35in MTRs, trussed and armored axles, marlin HD clutch, soon to be dual cased, TG rear bumper, Best mod todate CHROME METAL SR5 DOOR HANDLES, thats whats up RIP: 1985 Standard Cab SR5 pickup, add-a-leafs and shackels, 33" BFGs, it died a horrible death (50mph roll over) DD: 2006 Scion Tc w/TRD Supercharge and TRD stainless cat-back exhaust

02-07-2009, 12:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,535	Hey, troopers are very capable, but are also very flawed when it comes to design. The engineers at Isuzu at the idea right when they built the trooper, they just went about building it all wrong. It's ugly, it's slow, it's heavy, the interior is plain, poor MPG at best, limited aftermarket, tough to find parts for. A few high points are, decent motor(although not by any means powerful), decent off road ability(just so no side angles are involved), decent ground clearance, built sturdy. But other than that, this is a TOYOTA forum, and most people here will agree that we own Toyota's rather than Isuzu's because Toyotas are better. __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

02-07-2009, 05:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	we had a 91 trooper, and i swear that thing would not die. i beat the heck out of it offroad while my chevy was in the shop getting a front disk brake conversion, and even pulled out a taco and towed it uphill with the trooper. theyre like anything else, take care of em they'll last. theyre a good rig, but my 22re has more power. well... more than the 91 anyway. not to mention theyre fun to drive, i still regret crashing it. but hey at least it took out a ford! __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

02-07-2009, 05:33 AM	#11 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	was the 91 considered 1st gen or 2nd gen?im not 'up there' with isuzu knowledge __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

02-06-2009, 09:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
91diesel Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 202	They are also dang near no trade in value!! My buddy just traded in his clean 94 4wd. KBB was $1300! My 91 truck (not suv!) with a butt load more miles is $1700 in good condition. His MT and plastic radiator tanks.....indestructible I tell ya!

02-07-2009, 06:00 AM	#13 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,676	thenyeah we had a 1st gen. the alternator always got fried, the fuel pump went out 12 times in the 10 years we had it, but the engine never fried. what pissed me off though is that you couldnt use an impact on the wheel lugnuts... if u did, they'd strip out. haha. every time we took it to a tire place we'd have to replace the lug nuts and studs. (i thought it was the tire shops rippin us off until we got a flat one morning and i used my neighbors air compressor and impact gun... talk about a PITA... __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

02-07-2009, 06:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
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