The Swap is On! Toyota,Mercruiser and Chevy? - Page 3

texcat101 · 12-05-2008, 03:46 PM

You never know what your going to get when you order a swap kit for the first time, but I have to say this is quality stuff.
I test fit it this afternoon.
Advance Adapters kits rock!
And the engine mounts are beefy too.

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Hayes · 12-05-2008, 06:01 PM

are you using the toyota t-case?

texcat101 · 12-05-2008, 08:32 PM

Yes I am using a 21 spline gear drive Tcase with the forward shifter, the adapter will accomodate either forward or top shift.
I will post up more detailed pics of the parts and thier relation in the coming days.

Hayes · 12-05-2008, 08:46 PM

looks good, you are making me want to do this swap... Too bad I just put in a new 22re.

akarocket · 12-06-2008, 07:30 AM

A little info when I was doing mine:

I had to remove the snap ring that holds the bearing in place on the front of the transfercase. The snap ring prevents the adapter from seating fully against the transfercase. I did not see anything in the instructions about that. The adapter prevents the bearing from moving so a snap ring is not needed.

This looks little different than mine, but it is the lower one in this picture

texcat101 · 12-06-2008, 04:54 PM

Thank's Rocket I will check that tomorrow.
I installed the 2" 4crawler body lift with new neoprene bushings today and removed my old engine mounts from the frame and ground the welds.
I should make some progress in the next few days.
I love the way the body lift makes the 4runner look.. more aggressive.

texcat101 · 12-09-2008, 05:00 PM

While test fitting the 4.3 with headers and mounts attached I found that it required moving my fuel line and slightly bending the brake lines on the passenger side of the engine bay to position them directly above and outside of the frame.

The headers, mounts and new starter look good. This part of the swap goes way too slow with all of the test fitting... but ya gotta get it right.

texcat101 · 12-09-2008, 05:13 PM

Headers on the driver side, note the upward bends to take the runners away from the steering and the tight taper that it takes to get the collector inside the frame. This swap needs custom headers!

texcat101 · 12-11-2008, 07:30 PM

When positioning the 4.3 engine with the Advance Adapters mounts on the 1985 4runner, 20 1/4 " to the center of the mount from the front frame crossmember worked best for me, the mount is close to flush with the bottom of the frame.

Working on the theory that lower and farther back is better this is as far back as I was comfortable with. This position combined with the AA adapter and a 700r4 and forward shift gear drive T'case nets a 2 3/4" longer tranny relative to the crossmember. I am fabing a plate to weld to the crossmember to accomodate the transfer case mount.

Plenty of clearance in front even with the stock fan and radiator, should be more than enough for the aftermarket ones on the way!

idayota · 12-12-2008, 06:11 AM

nice work man!

texcat101 · 12-13-2008, 07:26 PM

While installing the new output shaft in the 700r4 I noticed the "rebuilt" transmission I purchased had some questionable parts in it.
All the frictions and hard parts looked new but the rebuilder had not upgraded the pump and had used the old stock band.
I chose to install a 10 vane pump and a new raybestos wider band.
I reassembled it today and will try to install the tranny and t'case tomorrow.
Then its just the megasquirt, fuel supply, shifters, exhaust.........

Hayes · 12-13-2008, 07:44 PM

Are you worried about the gear choice and birfields and all that with the new found power?

texcat101 · 12-13-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

Are you worried about the gear choice and birfields and all that with the new found power?

I have the stock 4.30's that should give me 2200 rpm's at 70 miles per hour with the 33's and a final drive of .70/1
It's the birf's that worry me.
Maybe they will be ok with the clutch type posi up front, but I don't dog it too bad while on the trail.

Hayes · 12-13-2008, 08:04 PM

See, they would be my major concern while off road too. One tip a buddy of mine gave me was to adjust the steering stops (so you can't turn as tight). While you lose turning radius, he's never broken a birf and he is hard on his rig...

bigt · 12-13-2008, 08:08 PM

longfeilds are in your future but its gonna be one heck of a yoter

texcat101 · 12-13-2008, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

See, they would be my major concern while off road too. One tip a buddy of mine gave me was to adjust the steering stops (so you can't turn as tight). While you lose turning radius, he's never broken a birf and he is hard on his rig...

Makes sense, then theres always aftermarket birf's - maybe next year!

texcat101 · 12-13-2008, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt

longfeilds are in your future but its gonna be one heck of a yoter

Yea I guess the thing to do is go try to break something

texcat101 · 12-14-2008, 08:12 PM

Got the tranny and t'case installed today as well as the new front shackles. I will try to get some new pics of the 4runner with the 2" body lift and the new shackles, the stance looks awesome!

texcat101 · 12-15-2008, 11:19 AM

The goal was to swap in the V6 for more power as I researched it my only apprehension was the required (or at least strongly suggested) 2" body lift.
I wanted to keep it low for best CG on the trails.
During my trip to Colorado last summer, I found I needed the longer shackles as my spring ends were hitting the frame under extreme flex. 1 1/2" longer would give me 3/4" of lift as well.
This is what it looks like now with the 4crawler 2" body lift and the longer shackles installed.
I like it!

Hayes · 12-15-2008, 06:25 PM

time for 35s? looks good.

texcat101 · 12-15-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

time for 35s? looks good.

Longfields and 35's..... A man has to have his priorities straight!

Hayes · 12-15-2008, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texcat101

Longfields and 35's..... A man has to have his priorities straight!

ha ha, good to know!

akarocket · 12-16-2008, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texcat101

The goal was to swap in the V6 for more power as I researched it my only apprehension was the required (or at least strongly suggested) 2" body lift.
I wanted to keep it low for best CG on the trails.
During my trip to Colorado last summer, I found I needed the longer shackles as my spring ends were hitting the frame under extreme flex. 1 1/2" longer would give me 3/4" of lift as well.
This is what it looks like now with the 4crawler 2" body lift and the longer shackles installed.
I like it!

Is that with the weight of the 4.3?

texcat101 · 12-16-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akarocket

Is that with the weight of the 4.3?

Yes, Its got the engine and tranny installed, everything but the small stuff like the radiator, belts, fluids etc..

texcat101 · 12-19-2008, 08:16 PM

After installing the transfer case I found the shifter in its most forward position leaves very little room for the floor mount shifter. I was going to use the B&M Megashifter because it has the 4spd cable shift capabilities I need for the 700r4.
Not sure if I will have enough room now. I searched everywhere for the shifter base size...
Gonna have to do some more research on this one

Fabbed a plate to move the T'case mount back 2 3/4"

Installed the open IAT sensor in the intake just before the throttle plate. This should provide very accurate readings for the Megasquirt

The manufacturer says you can mount the MS relay box in the open but I had this box from the donor vehicle... so why not

12-05-2008, 06:01 PM	#52 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	are you using the toyota t-case? __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

12-05-2008, 08:32 PM	#53 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	Yes I am using a 21 spline gear drive Tcase with the forward shifter, the adapter will accomodate either forward or top shift. I will post up more detailed pics of the parts and thier relation in the coming days. __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-05-2008, 08:46 PM	#54 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	looks good, you are making me want to do this swap... Too bad I just put in a new 22re. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

12-06-2008, 04:54 PM	#56 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	Thank's Rocket I will check that tomorrow. I installed the 2" 4crawler body lift with new neoprene bushings today and removed my old engine mounts from the frame and ground the welds. I should make some progress in the next few days. I love the way the body lift makes the 4runner look.. more aggressive. __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-09-2008, 05:00 PM	#57 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	While test fitting the 4.3 with headers and mounts attached I found that it required moving my fuel line and slightly bending the brake lines on the passenger side of the engine bay to position them directly above and outside of the frame. The headers, mounts and new starter look good. This part of the swap goes way too slow with all of the test fitting... but ya gotta get it right. __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-06-2008, 07:30 AM	#55 (permalink)
akarocket Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 77	A little info when I was doing mine: I had to remove the snap ring that holds the bearing in place on the front of the transfercase. The snap ring prevents the adapter from seating fully against the transfercase. I did not see anything in the instructions about that. The adapter prevents the bearing from moving so a snap ring is not needed. This looks little different than mine, but it is the lower one in this picture

12-09-2008, 05:13 PM	#58 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	Headers on the driver side, note the upward bends to take the runners away from the steering and the tight taper that it takes to get the collector inside the frame. This swap needs custom headers! __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-11-2008, 07:30 PM	#59 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	engine mount positions When positioning the 4.3 engine with the Advance Adapters mounts on the 1985 4runner, 20 1/4 " to the center of the mount from the front frame crossmember worked best for me, the mount is close to flush with the bottom of the frame. Working on the theory that lower and farther back is better this is as far back as I was comfortable with. This position combined with the AA adapter and a 700r4 and forward shift gear drive T'case nets a 2 3/4" longer tranny relative to the crossmember. I am fabing a plate to weld to the crossmember to accomodate the transfer case mount. Plenty of clearance in front even with the stock fan and radiator, should be more than enough for the aftermarket ones on the way! __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-12-2008, 06:11 AM	#60 (permalink)
idayota Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Boise, ID Posts: 575	nice work man! __________________ *Wherever, Whenever, However...Tread Lightly!***

12-13-2008, 07:26 PM	#61 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	While installing the new output shaft in the 700r4 I noticed the "rebuilt" transmission I purchased had some questionable parts in it. All the frictions and hard parts looked new but the rebuilder had not upgraded the pump and had used the old stock band. I chose to install a 10 vane pump and a new raybestos wider band. I reassembled it today and will try to install the tranny and t'case tomorrow. Then its just the megasquirt, fuel supply, shifters, exhaust......... __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-13-2008, 07:44 PM	#62 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	Are you worried about the gear choice and birfields and all that with the new found power? __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

12-13-2008, 08:04 PM	#64 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	See, they would be my major concern while off road too. One tip a buddy of mine gave me was to adjust the steering stops (so you can't turn as tight). While you lose turning radius, he's never broken a birf and he is hard on his rig... __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

12-13-2008, 08:08 PM	#65 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,201	longfeilds are in your future but its gonna be one heck of a yoter __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

12-14-2008, 08:12 PM	#68 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	update Got the tranny and t'case installed today as well as the new front shackles. I will try to get some new pics of the 4runner with the 2" body lift and the new shackles, the stance looks awesome! __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-15-2008, 11:19 AM	#69 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	2" body lift and 1 1/2" longer shackles The goal was to swap in the V6 for more power as I researched it my only apprehension was the required (or at least strongly suggested) 2" body lift. I wanted to keep it low for best CG on the trails. During my trip to Colorado last summer, I found I needed the longer shackles as my spring ends were hitting the frame under extreme flex. 1 1/2" longer would give me 3/4" of lift as well. This is what it looks like now with the 4crawler 2" body lift and the longer shackles installed. I like it! __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-15-2008, 06:25 PM	#70 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	time for 35s? looks good. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

12-19-2008, 08:16 PM	#75 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	update on swap After installing the transfer case I found the shifter in its most forward position leaves very little room for the floor mount shifter. I was going to use the B&M Megashifter because it has the 4spd cable shift capabilities I need for the 700r4. Not sure if I will have enough room now. I searched everywhere for the shifter base size... Gonna have to do some more research on this one Fabbed a plate to move the T'case mount back 2 3/4" Installed the open IAT sensor in the intake just before the throttle plate. This should provide very accurate readings for the Megasquirt The manufacturer says you can mount the MS relay box in the open but I had this box from the donor vehicle... so why not __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

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