The Swap is On! Toyota,Mercruiser and Chevy? - Page 2

4runnerguy · 11-02-2008, 07:07 PM

nice like the 4runner

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texcat101 · 11-08-2008, 06:06 PM

I got my EDIS stuff yesterday and a new injector loom I found on ebay for cheap!
And I got the 4crawler 2" body lift, thanks roger.
I am still looking for a RF1A Tcase after I found a rebuilt 700r4 this week but the swap is moving along.
Next step install the body lift!

texcat101 · 11-14-2008, 06:51 PM

Just got my 700r4 today with a new torque converter.
the tranny was built at a local shop for a guy 8 months ago (still has a thick layer of dust in the picture). he didn't pick it up so I got it for $300 plus $85 for the converter.
It's from an '84 but is supposed to have all the updates. after setting on the shelf for so long I will need to check it out when i install the adapter shaft.
now to find a good rf1a t case.

texcat101 · 11-21-2008, 02:29 PM

Just got the harmonic balancer back from the machine shop the trigger wheel is a perfect fit almost needs to be pressed on but can work it on by hand, I think some chemical weld should hold it in place without having to weld it.
Ordered my swap parts(headers, Advanced Adapters 700r4 to toy t'case adapter kit and 4.3 swap engine mounts) today from Randy @ http://adventurous4x4.com//catalog/index.php
nice guy with very good prices-good discount over AA direct.

Also ordered the MSII 3.57 and relay box from DIYAUTOTUNE.com

JamesD · 11-21-2008, 02:38 PM

I do not understand why you are using MS. Why not the factory Chevy harness?

James

texcat101 · 11-21-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesD

I do not understand why you are using MS. Why not the factory Chevy harness?

James

For totally programmable fuel and spark control on a TPI mercruiser intake with distributorless ignition.
Some people buy a chip or settle for a factory program thats "close enough" when in reality if you can't program it to your application you don't know what you have.Thier software allows you to pull up the stored data from the runs and modify the A/F ratios etc..
I have a buddy running MS and the results are incredible! Loads of power excellent fuel economy and the cleanest spark plugs you have ever seen.

Hayes · 11-21-2008, 06:20 PM

curious...would a MS be worth the money on the 22re?

texcat101 · 11-21-2008, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

curious...would a MS be worth the money on the 22re?

I think it would be worth the money, I am sure you could benefit from all of the programmability. My 22re never ran exactly right it seemed to run too rich most of the time and the AFM is restrictive. the stock setup -individual injectors with fuel rail lends itself to MS modification.
It's not expensive to build the MS http://www.diyautotune.com/
I will know more in a few weeks. Stay tuned!

Hayes · 11-21-2008, 06:55 PM

sounds good. I would love to look into the 4.3 swap like you are doing, but money was tight and my engine needed to be replaced, so I went stocker. Got 500 miles on it.

texcat101 · 11-22-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayes

sounds good. I would love to look into the 4.3 swap like you are doing, but money was tight and my engine needed to be replaced, so I went stocker. Got 500 miles on it.

If I had a manual tranny in mine I probably would have kept the 22re and just upgraded with the MS and EDIS ignition.
But since I am getting older I like the auto tranny and it demands MORE POWER!
One thing for sure, I am not doing another year of 2nd gear tached out for 30 miles on a 6% grade. "Can't take it - Can't stay!"

texcat101 · 11-24-2008, 04:31 PM

I installed the VR sensor for the trigger wheel with my homemade bracket today and....
MR. Postman brought an early Christmas present! The MS-II controller, relay box and harness.

Hayes · 11-24-2008, 04:34 PM

Dang, not even my truck and I am getting excited.

"jewls" · 11-24-2008, 04:38 PM

lol! that looks like my baby. looking good my friend... looking good!

texcat101 · 11-24-2008, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

Dang, not even my truck and I am getting excited.

It's getting closer! I can't wait to hear it run, still got a way to go for that.

The more I think about doing the MS on your 22re the more I think that it could be the perfect mod.

You could chuck the restrictive MAF and really open it up for power as well as fuel economy, something to think about..

texcat101 · 11-24-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jewls";50980412][COLOR="Lime

lol! that looks like my baby. looking good my friend... looking good![/color]

That jewls has got good taste.. sweet lookin 89! Good luck with the SAS.

Hayes · 11-24-2008, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texcat101

It's getting closer! I can't wait to hear it run, still got a way to go for that.

The more I think about doing the MS on your 22re the more I think that it could be the perfect mod.

You could chuck the restrictive MAF and really open it up for power as well as fuel economy, something to think about..

I'm thinking about it. What version do I need to go with? I am horrible with electrical.

Hayes · 11-24-2008, 06:01 PM

ha ha, I own page two.

texcat101 · 11-24-2008, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

I'm thinking about it. What version do I need to go with? I am horrible with electrical.

The MS-II 3.57 with a relay board and harness would support both spark and fuel totally programable and seems to be the easiest setup to install. I will do some more research and ask my MS guru buddy what he thinks.

The EDIS ignition is cheap and easy to install and gives you totally programable ignition when paired with the MSII. MS installation manual strongly recommends the EDIS.

Hayes · 11-24-2008, 07:13 PM

much appreciated.

texcat101 · 11-25-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hayes

much appreciated.

Hayes,
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/m...unit-p-34.html

I think this might be the way to go for all the 22re's- the PCB 2.2 , ($240) pre assembled kit, include the optional msns firmware for ignition control.

Adding the relay board ($88), and the relay cable($70) for ease of installation and circuit protection would be worth it to me.

I knew next to nothing about MS systems a month ago but after pouring over thier info I am starting to get the picture. If you decide to go this route you will have to learn the basics at least, It's a do it yourself (DIY) kit.
But it sure would be helpful to have a techie buddy nearby.(I have one)
This link will get you started with the right questions and I will try to post up most of my installation.
http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=32559

texcat101 · 11-30-2008, 06:58 PM

Pulled my 22re and 340F tranny today, took right at 5 hrs to have both sitting on the shop floor.
I am still waiting on the mounts, headers and Adapter kit - should be here this week but I wanted a few days to remove the old mounts, pressure wash and paint the engine compartment and mount the MS controller and relay. I also need to identify some wiring from the old harness.
I should make some serious progress this week.

Hayes · 11-30-2008, 07:47 PM

Took you less time to take your engine out than mine... Good luck with the swap!

texcat101 · 12-01-2008, 12:17 PM

No turning back now.

Hayes · 12-01-2008, 02:43 PM

*gasp*... my favorite part.

texcat101 · 12-04-2008, 12:01 PM

Who knew that after you get all the crap out of the way these 4runners have alot of room. Won't need the steering reservoir, air box, coil and 90% of the engine loom.... I like this swap more every day!

11-08-2008, 06:06 PM	#27 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	I got my EDIS stuff yesterday and a new injector loom I found on ebay for cheap! And I got the 4crawler 2" body lift, thanks roger. I am still looking for a RF1A Tcase after I found a rebuilt 700r4 this week but the swap is moving along. Next step install the body lift! __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

11-14-2008, 06:51 PM	#28 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	update, just got the 700r4 Just got my 700r4 today with a new torque converter. the tranny was built at a local shop for a guy 8 months ago (still has a thick layer of dust in the picture). he didn't pick it up so I got it for $300 plus $85 for the converter. It's from an '84 but is supposed to have all the updates. after setting on the shelf for so long I will need to check it out when i install the adapter shaft. now to find a good rf1a t case. __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

11-21-2008, 02:29 PM	#29 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	Update EDIS trigger wheel Just got the harmonic balancer back from the machine shop the trigger wheel is a perfect fit almost needs to be pressed on but can work it on by hand, I think some chemical weld should hold it in place without having to weld it. Ordered my swap parts(headers, Advanced Adapters 700r4 to toy t'case adapter kit and 4.3 swap engine mounts) today from Randy @ http://adventurous4x4.com//catalog/index.php nice guy with very good prices-good discount over AA direct. Also ordered the MSII 3.57 and relay box from DIYAUTOTUNE.com __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

11-21-2008, 02:38 PM	#30 (permalink)
JamesD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,829	I do not understand why you are using MS. Why not the factory Chevy harness? James __________________ New Tacome V6 transfer case http://www.yotatech.com/f107/sale-br.../#post50755569 Various Toyota truck/4Runner switches for sale http://www.yotatech.com/f109/various...trucks-148139/

11-21-2008, 06:20 PM	#32 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	curious...would a MS be worth the money on the 22re? __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

11-21-2008, 06:55 PM	#34 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	sounds good. I would love to look into the 4.3 swap like you are doing, but money was tight and my engine needed to be replaced, so I went stocker. Got 500 miles on it. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

11-24-2008, 04:31 PM	#36 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	Megasquirt update I installed the VR sensor for the trigger wheel with my homemade bracket today and.... MR. Postman brought an early Christmas present! The MS-II controller, relay box and harness. __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

11-24-2008, 04:34 PM	#37 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	Dang, not even my truck and I am getting excited. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

11-24-2008, 04:38 PM	#38 (permalink)
"jewls" Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Lake Elizabeth Ca. Posts: 109	lol! that looks like my baby. looking good my friend... looking good! __________________ '89 V6 4RUNNER, intake Downey headers, 2.5" exhuast, Super 40. R151F transmission & T-case, 5" Trail-Gear HD SAS,62" National Springs, 37x13.50R17 Toyo racing coumpound M/T's on procomp extreme alloys, All-Pro front & rear bumpers, interior cage, Mile Marker 8,000lbs winch, 6" hellas, custom removable light bar, soft top, High Lift jack, Corbeau buckets with Crow 4 point harnesses, Custom slide out storage box, optional half doors, CB radio, inclameter out of a montero, TRD streering wheel.

11-24-2008, 06:01 PM	#42 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	ha ha, I own page two. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

11-24-2008, 07:13 PM	#44 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	much appreciated. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

11-30-2008, 06:58 PM	#46 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	Pulled my 22re and 340F tranny today, took right at 5 hrs to have both sitting on the shop floor. I am still waiting on the mounts, headers and Adapter kit - should be here this week but I wanted a few days to remove the old mounts, pressure wash and paint the engine compartment and mount the MS controller and relay. I also need to identify some wiring from the old harness. I should make some serious progress this week. __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

11-30-2008, 07:47 PM	#47 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	Took you less time to take your engine out than mine... Good luck with the swap! __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

12-01-2008, 12:17 PM	#48 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	No turning back now. __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

12-01-2008, 02:43 PM	#49 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,884	gasp... my favorite part. __________________ Obama is an acronym. OBAMA = One Big Ass Mistake, America

12-04-2008, 12:01 PM	#50 (permalink)
texcat101 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: W. Texas Posts: 367	Who knew that after you get all the crap out of the way these 4runners have alot of room. Won't need the steering reservoir, air box, coil and 90% of the engine loom.... I like this swap more every day! __________________ 85 4runner, 3" spring lift, 4Crawler 2" body lift, Precision Gear 5.29's w/power brute posi frt & rear, M/T Baja MTZ 33x12.5x15, Warn M8000 winch, Optima redtop, Marlin Crawler Front, Rear Bumpers and Sliders, Allpro crossover steering & U bolt flip, LC rotors, '94 calipers and booster. 4.3 vortec / 700r4, Megasquirt II, EDIS6

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