VW Diesel Build Up - Page 2

Asha'man · 01-21-2008, 09:21 PM

Around here, vehicles with that much rust are only seen in the junkyard. Is that truck even still structurally intact?

Either way, very cool swap. Keep us all updated with progress!

1990Runner · 01-21-2008, 09:36 PM

veggie and bio-d are awsome and it does smell like french fries

Flash319 · 01-22-2008, 05:22 AM

Ya frame is good. Body was rotten through the firewall and floor. That is what you get in canada. A new truck frame looks like crap after 2 years. Its not the best but it will do once I throw some POR15 on her.

82yota · 01-23-2008, 03:55 PM

Hey there Flash319. Where bouts in Ontario are you? I'm in Sarnia for school right now and if your around the area I would be interested in seeing the thing running. I did a similar swap but I put a Toyota TD in my 92. I'd really like to see this in person. I bought my body and frame from the states so I somewhat got out of the rust deal. Diesels in these trucks sure work well. Mines a 4 cyl as well but 3.0L. And the 30mpg is very realistic. I have gotten that with mine and its an auto tranny. Intercooler and better flowing air filter and filter housing is next on my list.

nate V · 01-23-2008, 04:56 PM

awsome swap you have going there cant wait to hear more about it.
have fun

82yota · 01-23-2008, 05:44 PM

Oh and another thing I plan on running my truck on Biofuels as soon as I can figure out how to make them. I'm in an Alternative Energies program for the next 2.5 years and making bio diesel is part of the course so I will be learning how to make the good high test stuff. We are acctually making ethanol in Chem right now. Started last week. We will also be into the wind generations solar stuff and of course hydrogen and fuel cells. So by the end if anyone wants to know about bio diesel I'll be happy to help out.

Flash319 · 01-24-2008, 06:57 AM

Hey 82Yota. I am just south of Barrie by the lake.. I was thinking of doing the Toyota TD swap but everyone in canada or US want top buck for parts or engines. Its funny you mention Alternative Energies because I am also building a CNC machine for making wood windmill blades and building a straw bale house. I have way to many projects on the go..........

nate V · 01-24-2008, 07:19 AM

82yota
I an very interested in how to make biodiesel and alternative fuels. Please do explain the process once you can.
Maybe you should post a new thread on it.

**aviator** · 01-24-2008, 07:25 AM

Wow Flash very very interesting...
I may want to do this mod in the future if gas gets much more pricey...
I can get a Mercedes turbo diesel right now completely re-built for about 2800.00 but I don't have the coin lol...

82yota · 01-24-2008, 09:03 AM

One of our projects this semester is to build a wind turbine from scratch. It will be a verticle axis one just because on the simplicty and costs but we get to make everything. The 3rd year students right now are making a biodiesel processor that will make about 100L/day and it should be going by March. And they will be selling the bio diesel for around 80 cents/L so I'm going to take full advantage of that. Also it will have the proper lubricty for the pump. One of these weekends I might have to make a trip up to around Barrie and stop in and see what your doing. I know some people up there and will be visiting them sometime. And yes my motor and tranny and all was top price. $4200 shipped with everything. The total I've got into the truck so far and that includes buying the truck is about $6500. The truck was the cheap part. I'd be interested in seeing your CNC setup as well. Took mechanical engineering in Thunder Bay for two years so I'm right into machining. Sorry for the long winded posts I can just type quite fast and before I know it I've got a novel.

nate V · 01-24-2008, 11:10 AM

Where are you going to school? and have the opportunity to learn all this cool stuff.

82yota · 01-24-2008, 11:20 AM

In Sarnia. I'm going to Lambton college. Its the only school that offers this program. There are a few colleges putting a program together like this but this is the only one any of us know about right now.

nate V · 01-24-2008, 11:52 AM

that sounds like a ton of fun. Wish there was one closer to me because i would definatly take full advantage of it. have fun

purerockfury · 01-24-2008, 05:57 PM

Great buildup / thread.

I watched a recent episode of Extreme 4x4 (spike tv network).
They did a similar swap in a Samurai. They ran diesel and peanut
oil. Greasecar.com sells the kits for the conversion.

Way cool... thanks for sharing.

**aviator** · 01-25-2008, 08:53 AM

Speaking from a position of ignorance here... I thought the engine and tranny were one unit on the FWD VWs from which these engines come, or at least an interconnected unit with a common block how are you getting around that?

yotasavg · 01-25-2008, 08:56 AM

i know for a fact that MKIII gasoline jetta's/golfs/cabrios don't have attached tranies.

Victor · 01-25-2008, 09:02 AM

Tranny is attached on my TDi. He made an adapter plate to allow the block to bolt to the bellhousing for his Toyota tranny.

Are you confusing a transaxle - the transmission and axle are a single unit.

yotasavg · 01-25-2008, 09:06 AM

ok then the diesels must be different. cause on the 2.0 and the VR6 the trannies are separable, maybe the 1.8T but i have no idea about the TDI.

Flash319 · 01-25-2008, 09:35 AM

I have never heard of the engine block being part of the trans. How would you service the clutch? Take the trans apart? Sounds like something a car company would do though.

I index drilled the flywheel today and bored out the center to 43mm. I have not tried it on yet but will when I get home. This weekend I plan to bolt the 1.6 block to the trans in the truck and see how it looks. Start making the engine mounts from there. With the trans sitting in the truck it looks like it sits off to the passenger side of the truck a bit? I will take some measurements but it looks that way. I am going to try and use the stock mounts on the frame if I can but the block is a lot shorter so I will see how it goes.

Greg_Canada · 01-25-2008, 10:42 AM

cool build dude, id like to check it out some time, not allllll truck frames look like that, my 89 isnt nearly that bad, but in the winter i powerwash the frame every week...
sometime in the summer id like to drop by...

Flash319 · 01-25-2008, 10:49 AM

ya your right Greg. My DD is an 89 as well and the frame on it is in better shape. I was going to use this truck but then I would have to fix the other one for the road then take my DD apart and bla bla bla. So I desided to just use that one as it need work anyways. Oh ya and don't EVER buy a vehical off of FLEABAY. That is where this truck for the build came from. Needless to say I didn't get a deal..........

82yota · 01-25-2008, 11:18 AM

When you do get it all done and ready for on the road go down to the registration office and bring in your registry slip and get it changed to a diesel. It doesn't cost anything and only takes a few mins. Then it would be all good for the emissions stuff. I don't have to do emissions on my truck but if I did it would only have to pass 1980 standards as when you swap a motor the vehicle is considered

01-21-2008, 09:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
Asha'man Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Centennial, CO Posts: 853	Around here, vehicles with that much rust are only seen in the junkyard. Is that truck even still structurally intact? Either way, very cool swap. Keep us all updated with progress! __________________ --Brian Big Truck - 1986 4Runner SR5 - 22RE, 5spd, 264K miles, 3" OME/BJ spacer lift, 31x10.50 TrXus MT's, satin black AR steelies, homemade bikini top Li'l Truck - 1985 Toyota Xtra cab pickup - 2wd, 22R, 5spd, 264K miles, '94 4Runner buckets, currently three colors The Stang - 1986 Comp Prep SVO 1C - stockish

01-21-2008, 09:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
1990Runner Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: houston, texas Posts: 241	veggie and bio-d are awsome and it does smell like french fries __________________ 1990 SR5 4-Runner 5spd 4X4 stock trim for now Aisin manual hubs

01-23-2008, 04:56 PM	#30 (permalink)
nate V Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 391	awsome swap you have going there cant wait to hear more about it. have fun __________________ 1988 Pick-Up / 3.0 / 4:56 / 5 speed / 278k miles "Drive it to hell and back"

01-24-2008, 06:57 AM	#32 (permalink)
Flash319 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Barrie, Ontario CANADA Posts: 885	Hey 82Yota. I am just south of Barrie by the lake.. I was thinking of doing the Toyota TD swap but everyone in canada or US want top buck for parts or engines. Its funny you mention Alternative Energies because I am also building a CNC machine for making wood windmill blades and building a straw bale house. I have way to many projects on the go.......... Last edited by Flash319 : 01-24-2008 at 06:58 AM.

01-24-2008, 07:19 AM	#33 (permalink)
nate V Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 391	82yota I an very interested in how to make biodiesel and alternative fuels. Please do explain the process once you can. Maybe you should post a new thread on it. __________________ 1988 Pick-Up / 3.0 / 4:56 / 5 speed / 278k miles "Drive it to hell and back"

01-22-2008, 05:22 AM	#28 (permalink)
Flash319 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Barrie, Ontario CANADA Posts: 885	Ya frame is good. Body was rotten through the firewall and floor. That is what you get in canada. A new truck frame looks like crap after 2 years. Its not the best but it will do once I throw some POR15 on her.

01-23-2008, 03:55 PM	#29 (permalink)
82yota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 273	Hey there Flash319. Where bouts in Ontario are you? I'm in Sarnia for school right now and if your around the area I would be interested in seeing the thing running. I did a similar swap but I put a Toyota TD in my 92. I'd really like to see this in person. I bought my body and frame from the states so I somewhat got out of the rust deal. Diesels in these trucks sure work well. Mines a 4 cyl as well but 3.0L. And the 30mpg is very realistic. I have gotten that with mine and its an auto tranny. Intercooler and better flowing air filter and filter housing is next on my list.

01-23-2008, 05:44 PM	#31 (permalink)
82yota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 273	Oh and another thing I plan on running my truck on Biofuels as soon as I can figure out how to make them. I'm in an Alternative Energies program for the next 2.5 years and making bio diesel is part of the course so I will be learning how to make the good high test stuff. We are acctually making ethanol in Chem right now. Started last week. We will also be into the wind generations solar stuff and of course hydrogen and fuel cells. So by the end if anyone wants to know about bio diesel I'll be happy to help out.

01-24-2008, 07:25 AM	#34 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 5,339	Wow Flash very very interesting... I may want to do this mod in the future if gas gets much more pricey... I can get a Mercedes turbo diesel right now completely re-built for about 2800.00 but I don't have the coin lol... __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

01-24-2008, 09:03 AM	#35 (permalink)
82yota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 273	One of our projects this semester is to build a wind turbine from scratch. It will be a verticle axis one just because on the simplicty and costs but we get to make everything. The 3rd year students right now are making a biodiesel processor that will make about 100L/day and it should be going by March. And they will be selling the bio diesel for around 80 cents/L so I'm going to take full advantage of that. Also it will have the proper lubricty for the pump. One of these weekends I might have to make a trip up to around Barrie and stop in and see what your doing. I know some people up there and will be visiting them sometime. And yes my motor and tranny and all was top price. $4200 shipped with everything. The total I've got into the truck so far and that includes buying the truck is about $6500. The truck was the cheap part. I'd be interested in seeing your CNC setup as well. Took mechanical engineering in Thunder Bay for two years so I'm right into machining. Sorry for the long winded posts I can just type quite fast and before I know it I've got a novel.

01-24-2008, 11:10 AM	#36 (permalink)
nate V Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 391	Where are you going to school? and have the opportunity to learn all this cool stuff. __________________ 1988 Pick-Up / 3.0 / 4:56 / 5 speed / 278k miles "Drive it to hell and back"

01-24-2008, 11:20 AM	#37 (permalink)
82yota Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 273	In Sarnia. I'm going to Lambton college. Its the only school that offers this program. There are a few colleges putting a program together like this but this is the only one any of us know about right now.

01-24-2008, 11:52 AM	#38 (permalink)
nate V Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 391	that sounds like a ton of fun. Wish there was one closer to me because i would definatly take full advantage of it. have fun __________________ 1988 Pick-Up / 3.0 / 4:56 / 5 speed / 278k miles "Drive it to hell and back"

01-24-2008, 05:57 PM	#39 (permalink)
purerockfury Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Northcoast Posts: 212	Great buildup / thread. I watched a recent episode of Extreme 4x4 (spike tv network). They did a similar swap in a Samurai. They ran diesel and peanut oil. Greasecar.com sells the kits for the conversion. Way cool... thanks for sharing. __________________ Super cool Toyota tees & hoodies: www.northcoastin.com Toyota's Rock !!!

01-25-2008, 08:53 AM	#40 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 5,339	Speaking from a position of ignorance here... I thought the engine and tranny were one unit on the FWD VWs from which these engines come, or at least an interconnected unit with a common block how are you getting around that? __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

01-25-2008, 08:56 AM	#41 (permalink)
yotasavg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL Posts: 1,527	i know for a fact that MKIII gasoline jetta's/golfs/cabrios don't have attached tranies. __________________ -Andrew 94 4Runner 3.0 Auto. I got mods

01-25-2008, 09:02 AM	#42 (permalink)
Victor Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: El Paso, TX Posts: 1,723	Tranny is attached on my TDi. He made an adapter plate to allow the block to bolt to the bellhousing for his Toyota tranny. Are you confusing a transaxle - the transmission and axle are a single unit. __________________ "Turtle" - Green 94 4Runner Looks like one and about as fast JDM altimeter/clinometer, 2002 Sport wheels, 265/75r16 MT/R, , OME stabilizer, BJ Spacers, Cruiser Coils, removed sway bars, rattle can paint for all that peeling clearcoat! Lockright front and rear.

01-25-2008, 09:06 AM	#43 (permalink)
yotasavg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL Posts: 1,527	ok then the diesels must be different. cause on the 2.0 and the VR6 the trannies are separable, maybe the 1.8T but i have no idea about the TDI. __________________ -Andrew 94 4Runner 3.0 Auto. I got mods

01-25-2008, 09:35 AM	#44 (permalink)
Flash319 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Barrie, Ontario CANADA Posts: 885	I have never heard of the engine block being part of the trans. How would you service the clutch? Take the trans apart? Sounds like something a car company would do though. I index drilled the flywheel today and bored out the center to 43mm. I have not tried it on yet but will when I get home. This weekend I plan to bolt the 1.6 block to the trans in the truck and see how it looks. Start making the engine mounts from there. With the trans sitting in the truck it looks like it sits off to the passenger side of the truck a bit? I will take some measurements but it looks that way. I am going to try and use the stock mounts on the frame if I can but the block is a lot shorter so I will see how it goes.

01-25-2008, 10:42 AM	#45 (permalink)
Greg_Canada Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 758	cool build dude, id like to check it out some time, not allllll truck frames look like that, my 89 isnt nearly that bad, but in the winter i powerwash the frame every week... sometime in the summer id like to drop by... __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/1147271/1 My 1989 Toyota 4runner

01-25-2008, 10:49 AM	#46 (permalink)
Flash319 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Barrie, Ontario CANADA Posts: 885	ya your right Greg. My DD is an 89 as well and the frame on it is in better shape. I was going to use this truck but then I would have to fix the other one for the road then take my DD apart and bla bla bla. So I desided to just use that one as it need work anyways. Oh ya and don't EVER buy a vehical off of FLEABAY. That is where this truck for the build came from. Needless to say I didn't get a deal..........