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Old 07-06-2008, 10:42 PM   #251 (permalink)
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hmmm interesting read flash. its also funny to hear you and aviator talk about the roadways. i grew up in caledon so im quite familiar with the areas youre talking about (i used to drag race traffic on my dirtbike on the highway 10 mountain when it was under construction for widening)

anyway, im going to be moving to barrie for school in the fall and the idea of a diesel swap into my yota is delicious sounding. if i end up just keeping my truck stock, having a yotatecher near by for advice and yota support sounds good too. id love to see your truck though! awesome build
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:58 AM   #252 (permalink)
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Sounds good runt262. I have lots of parts and crap too. If anyone wants to check out the truck just send me a message.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:31 AM   #253 (permalink)
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Yeah I've noticed that too... the top half always seems to have more ks in it then the bottom half... you'd think it would be the other way around once you shed the weight of the first half would'nt you?... just one of those strange things in the universe....

on keeping it cool... there was a thing I saw on the web some place about a cryo-freeze system to increase the efficiency of the intercooler... it was basically a loop of metal tube you attached to the front of the cooler and connected to a tank of ? with a solinoid[sp?] valve when you needed a shot of cooling you just hit the button inside... might bring down your egts a bit on the long hills by supercooling the intake air...
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Welcome runt...
you need to get to know Shane over at Toyworks in O-ville... definitely one of the best yota mechanics around.
I'll pm you his contact info... BTW flash Shane might have a cab kicking around.
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Old 07-07-2008, 09:54 AM   #255 (permalink)
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I guess an intercooler would help a bit. I am running stock Jetta config with no intercooler. Maybe I should look into finding one. I just hate having even more hosing under the hood.
The gas thing might have something to do with the sending units. I don't think they are very linear.
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:41 PM   #256 (permalink)
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Sounds like the diesel is doing quite well. Just sucks your EGTs are up. I've got a cooling problem with mine but it is keeping the motor itself cool on long climbs. Your getting some pretty impressive numbers for mileage there. Just a little more than me. I'm about 230 miles at half a tank or 370kms. I'm just revving too high on the highway. Need taller tires. I'm planning an intercooler setup very soon here so I will let you know how it goes on mileage and keeping things cool.

Also about the gauge I find that it goes faster in the second half of the guage. My needle doesnt move off the full mark till about 130kms or so on average. But once it gets below half it starts to go quite fast and once past 1/4 you better find some fuel.
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Old 07-08-2008, 04:18 AM   #257 (permalink)
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My gauge does the same.
My engine is staying cool so I am glad for that, just my EGT's get up there if I hold on it for 30 sec or so. As soon as I let off a bit they drop.

I am running 31"s with 4:10 diffs. Most of my trip to work I am sitting at 2800rpm at 100km/h (60mph).

Let us know if that intercooler does anything. I have read a lot about them but am not sure if it is worth the hassle. I would also think that it will cause a bit of a turbo lag depending how big it is.
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:48 AM   #258 (permalink)
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Just spent the last hour reading the thread. Now I know that I want a diesel in my '87 4Runner. Gives me a lot to think about. I might try to locate a Toyota diesel first but the VW option is looking very good. I am running 33's with 4:10's and a 22re right now so I don't get gas mileage any more. I drive it about 120 km a day to work and back.
Maybe I should just get a VW and drive it daily and keep the truck for weekends and offroading. It would be a lot less work.
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Well I just filled up today. Looks like my milage is 30MPG. Thats a mix of highway/city.
Zombie: I don't think you would like the 1.9 in a 4runner. It feels about the same in the truck as the 22re but I think the weight of a Runner will kill it. I think the only one to put in a runner would be a TDI. Check with Spulen(?) on that one. He has a TDI in a Runner. 33" tires would be imposible, maybe with 5:30's or something but then you would loose the point in putting it in------gas milage.
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:48 AM   #260 (permalink)
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It's the gas mileage that is the problem. My company moved to a new location in Mississauga, they were supposed to move to Milton and I built the truck assuming a Milton commute from Guelph, no problem. Now it's twice as far away with all the stop and go traffic. I don't have any more parking available to use at home sofor now I am stuck. Not getting rid of the truck though.
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Zombie there is a company in Mississauga that imports engines and engine/tranny sets from Japan direct... they are used but typically with less 80K on them. They have the 3.0L diesels with tranny and brainbox/harness etc. [basically a drop in set up] for around 2500.00+/- , engines only for about 1700.00. I think I still have the linky I'll check and post it if I find it..

30MPG is pretty sweet Flash.
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:40 PM   #262 (permalink)
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aviator, could i also get the info for that company in mississauga, im in halton hills, i like the idea of a diesel
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That link would be great, anyone have an idea what a Toyota diesel gets for mileage? I am assuming that it would have plenty of grunt, especially for the hills.
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dont mean to hijack but your thread is more active then mine
I started swapping out my auto for a 5-speed and I cant reuse my downpipe because the clutch fork is in the way. I was going down then under the transmission (like you), now I am forced to go accross the top of the transmission. It was kind of a PITA, clearance is tight everywhere. This is the best I can get, the only area I am concerned about is where it runs under the water outlet on the back of the head. The pipe is about 1/4" away from the rubber hose, if I use header wrap it will be about 1/8". Think that will be enough? The only other thing I can do is flatten the pipe a bit in that area, if I dont kink it it will not interupt the flow but the flattening may distort the pipe enough to cause interference issues somewhere else. Any thoughts?
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Zombie. I've got a 3.0L Toyota TD in my 92 pickup and highway the best I have gotten was right around 30mpg. Around town right now its down to about 24 mpg but should get better as soon as I get my valves properly adjusted.

And Aviator I would be VERY interested in that link to that company that brings the motors in. I'm looking to get a 5 speed bellhousing for my diesel and that may be a great source for it. Maybe they can even get me a nice little diesel for a Corolla.
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:29 PM   #266 (permalink)
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i might be getting a job in stoney creek and i would so drop a diesel in one of my 3 yotas or convert the 22r to propane which is planned anyways.. I WANT THAT LINK too!! i know i came across it along time ago on the interweb!

should have bookmarked!

i think flash gas milage is great ....and the fact taht he pretty much invented a engine swap and did it on his own..
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Zookie,
What size of pipe are you using? I would be very uneasy running th pipe on top because there is no wind or anything there. The heat will just sit there and heat the cab up. BUT if that is what you must do, I would pound the pipe away from the hose then wrap it like you said. You will be toasty warm in the winter. (man you got a lot of room behind your engine, must be nice)

Side note: How did you mark your TDC on you engine. I made some crapy marks on the balancer that matched a slot cut in the plastic timing belt cover (not very accurate and it is worrying me now). I want to make a better pointer and was wondering what you did? If I have a pump problem I am in a bit of trouble.

Thanks for hats off BigT

Aviator: How can I get a hold of this Shane Toyworks dude?
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the pipe is mostly 2.25 but is 2" behind the head, I didnt want to go any smaller. The guys that install these in samurais run them this way, they dont seem to have a problem but have a little more room. I cant do down then under because the clutch fork and 2wd torque bar are in the way. I'll wrap it good and cross my fingers. I think it will be OK. I installed the engine forward a few inches in case I had to route it that way, couldnt go any further forward, I modified the oil pan as much as I could before getting too close to the oil pick-up.

Before I removed the timing mark I punched a mark on the cam, crank, intermedate and injector timing gears. I made a corrisponding mark on the timing belt. I counted the teeth and made the same marks on the new belt. When I put it back together I aligned the marks on the timing gears to the belt and everything lined up. I checked TDC when I had the head off and made a mark like you did and when I lined that up everything else was where it was supposed to be. I looked at it closely and determined that if I was a tooth off either way it wouldnt run right, 1 tooth is a couple degrees.
Have you had to time the injector yet? TDC just has to be close (not perfect), you have to rotate the engine around anyways a bit before you ajust the injector. I wouldnt worry about it.
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:41 PM   #269 (permalink)
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Hi, Oh my god! This is amazing! I can't believe i've just found this 1.9 aaz swap thread & read it all in 3hrs!

Where are u exactly? i must come check out your truck in the next 2-3wks or so.

I was supposed to do this exact swap to my 91 22re/g58 last year too!

(Until my 1.9 blew up due to a blown headgasket caused by a waterpump & gauge cluster simutaneous failure. i even ended up selling the whole jetta for $350! Maybe i should have kept it... )

Anyway, GOOD WORK there rigging everything from ground up.

However, after hearing your results, i'm glad to find out now that 1.9 td sounds like it's going to be too powerless for my setup.

This is my "ToyMobile" setup in case you want to know what i'm talking about.
http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...#Po st1004430

At around 5000-5500lbs (load/ed), 4.88, 33" tires, what diesel options do i have left? (stock pickup = 3800lbs i think.)

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-toy diesel engine from japanese half-cuts (what's that import company again?)

My 350xxxkm 22re is starting to burn oil & too much $ into the atm now-a-days w/ our oil $. I NEED a diesel so bad to run it on WVO...
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Allochris I think with looking at your vehicle setup you should look into the 3.0L toyota TD. I've got one in my truck and they have pulling power. Do some reasearch on the 1kz-te engine. I can't type anymore right now though gotta go to work.
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