OM617 benz swaps
08-09-2009, 01:45 PM
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OM617 benz swaps
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i currently work for a 4wd specialty shop that has perfected the OM617 benz swap into a toyota platform for a resonable price. Using our custom made adapter plate and motor mount set up, all while retaining the factory toyota trail proven transmission, starter, clutch slave and master, as opposed to the other kits that are offered at the moment. at the moment im going to leave it at this ill be adding more pictures and info during the week when i can get some good pictures of it installed
i currently work for a 4wd specialty shop that has perfected the OM617 benz swap into a toyota platform for a resonable price. Using our custom made adapter plate and motor mount set up, all while retaining the factory toyota trail proven transmission, starter, clutch slave and master, as opposed to the other kits that are offered at the moment. at the moment im going to leave it at this ill be adding more pictures and info during the week when i can get some good pictures of it installed
08-09-2009, 02:27 PM
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the base platform we started with was a 1987 toyota 4runner
it was originally a ifs truck but has had a s.a.s done to it.
the clearance for firewall to rad is very tight as this is a long motor,
but it can be done without modifying the rad support. it does take the use of a pusher fan to achieve this but we are trying to retain as much of the stock toyota body structure as possible. as far as the mounting of the motor goes there was no changes made on the location of the transmission cross member.
the initial swap was done out because the owner of the truck had a blown motor. after looking at the fuel economy of the motor the capability to run bio fuel. it is a good candidate for anyone who avidly drives there truck. With the rising price of gas, and regular diesel, the ability to run bio fuel is a great option. we have had the test truck running on 100% bio diesel and not had any issue's.as for the fuel system we retain the stock toyota tank and pump set up, we just drain and perge the tanks of any gas. any other questions you have feel free to ask
it was originally a ifs truck but has had a s.a.s done to it.
the clearance for firewall to rad is very tight as this is a long motor,
but it can be done without modifying the rad support. it does take the use of a pusher fan to achieve this but we are trying to retain as much of the stock toyota body structure as possible. as far as the mounting of the motor goes there was no changes made on the location of the transmission cross member.
the initial swap was done out because the owner of the truck had a blown motor. after looking at the fuel economy of the motor the capability to run bio fuel. it is a good candidate for anyone who avidly drives there truck. With the rising price of gas, and regular diesel, the ability to run bio fuel is a great option. we have had the test truck running on 100% bio diesel and not had any issue's.as for the fuel system we retain the stock toyota tank and pump set up, we just drain and perge the tanks of any gas. any other questions you have feel free to ask
08-09-2009, 04:09 PM
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How long has the current set up been running? Looking for mid/long term reliability information, maintenance issues.
Did the truck have a body lift installed to clear the engine or will it fit in a bone stock ifs 4wd set up?
Did the truck have a body lift installed to clear the engine or will it fit in a bone stock ifs 4wd set up?
08-09-2009, 04:27 PM
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as of right now its been in since my 2.4 long weekend
i think it needs at least a 2 inch body lift to clear
the ifs makes it a lil tight with the front pick-up on the motor
like i said the next swap were doin is to a mostly stock ifs extra cab
ill know more once that gets underway.
ill be sure to post any issue's to keep you updated
there are currently 2 trucks running the motor
the 4runner and and a extra cab ifs truck
the extra cab's cab has been pushed back 2 inch's (how it was bought)
so really any info collected from that truck is useless
that one was finished as of last weekend july 30th
it also had a small block ford in it before so was molested like a mofo
but was up and running and did the trails just fine
its got something like 6-7inchs lift and is running 38.5 ground hawgs
i think it needs at least a 2 inch body lift to clear
the ifs makes it a lil tight with the front pick-up on the motor
like i said the next swap were doin is to a mostly stock ifs extra cab
ill know more once that gets underway.
ill be sure to post any issue's to keep you updated
there are currently 2 trucks running the motor
the 4runner and and a extra cab ifs truck
the extra cab's cab has been pushed back 2 inch's (how it was bought)
so really any info collected from that truck is useless
that one was finished as of last weekend july 30th
it also had a small block ford in it before so was molested like a mofo
but was up and running and did the trails just fine
its got something like 6-7inchs lift and is running 38.5 ground hawgs
08-09-2009, 05:58 PM
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http://s434.photobucket.com/albums/q...neswaps091.flv
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08-10-2009, 03:32 PM
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Looking at your linked pics if top end clearance is the only issue you could probably keep the truck stock height and modify the hood with a "power bulge" using the tacoma hood intake grill thingy to improve cooling. That little grill has a snap in cover on the back side so winter ops would'nt be an issue.
I'd also flip the batt. to the driver's side and go with a cone filter where the batt. is now. {if you were going to keep it a single batt. set up}
I'd also flip the batt. to the driver's side and go with a cone filter where the batt. is now. {if you were going to keep it a single batt. set up}
08-19-2009, 03:58 PM
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Does the engine ride heavy in the stock IFS suspension? I ask because the om617 is significantly heavier than the v6, no? Does this affect steering at highway speeds, or are you building this for trail use?
What would a conversion kit cost to adapt om617 to r150f in a 1992 extended cab? Thanks.
What would a conversion kit cost to adapt om617 to r150f in a 1992 extended cab? Thanks.
08-19-2009, 04:57 PM
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as of this moment we are only offering the swap with the w 56 tranny
the v6 tranny sits a lil to far foward for the swap ... also the adapter plate that we have made only works with the w trannys
as for price its in the 5-6 grand range for a full running truck.
we might possible do an adapter plate for the v6 but would still have alot to modify the v6 trans sits about two inch's more foward then the 22re trans and the ome motor is a tight fit as it is.... the trans cross member would have to be pushed back which would lead to drive shaft issues
the v6 tranny sits a lil to far foward for the swap ... also the adapter plate that we have made only works with the w trannys
as for price its in the 5-6 grand range for a full running truck.
we might possible do an adapter plate for the v6 but would still have alot to modify the v6 trans sits about two inch's more foward then the 22re trans and the ome motor is a tight fit as it is.... the trans cross member would have to be pushed back which would lead to drive shaft issues
08-19-2009, 10:01 PM
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Thank for the reply,
Just to clarify, do you have a price just for an adaptor kit for a 22re truck, and how do you see the extra weight of the om617 affecting the handling of the truck at highway speeds assuming a stock ifs suspension? Thanks
Just to clarify, do you have a price just for an adaptor kit for a 22re truck, and how do you see the extra weight of the om617 affecting the handling of the truck at highway speeds assuming a stock ifs suspension? Thanks
08-20-2009, 04:20 PM
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trucks both feel fine at highway speed
im in talks with the owner about selling just the adapter plate ...and a possible mount kit for the motor ill price both for you
im in talks with the owner about selling just the adapter plate ...and a possible mount kit for the motor ill price both for you
09-10-2009, 01:06 PM
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09-11-2009, 06:10 AM
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Any info on an adaptor plate and motor mount kit?? how much and how much for the pilot bearing adaptor?? I know there are a lot of people intrested in this swap in my area let alone on this site.
09-11-2009, 02:45 PM
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its a killer swap looks good lil bit easier then the 4runner and pick ups.....
there's more room under the hood of an 80 series
having the solid axle with coil springs and the nice steering set-up is a bonus
if anyone has any serious inquiries on the swap feel free to pm me
im not a lurker on the boards so i only check the site once or twice a month
09-12-2009, 06:53 AM
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its a killer swap looks good lil bit easier then the 4runner and pick ups.....
there's more room under the hood of an 80 series
having the solid axle with coil springs and the nice steering set-up is a bonus
if anyone has any serious inquiries on the swap feel free to pm me
im not a lurker on the boards so i only check the site once or twice a month
there's more room under the hood of an 80 series
having the solid axle with coil springs and the nice steering set-up is a bonus
if anyone has any serious inquiries on the swap feel free to pm me
im not a lurker on the boards so i only check the site once or twice a month
09-13-2009, 07:15 PM
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With the springs out and front end completley bottomed out and with the engine bolted to the trans with the trans in it's stock location the front end rose almost 5 inches above where the bottom of the pan would be. I said 6 inch lift to be safe.
