Swap to Turbo Supra Motor?
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Swap to Turbo Supra Motor?
I have a 1997 4runner 3.4 and I'm in love with it but the 180hp ain't cuttin it. I don't want to get rid off it. I was thinkin of the 2JZ-TTE Supra engine to swap. I found one with a tranny for $1900 and how much would you estimate a complete swap would be?
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Good luck, whichever path you take.
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Check this website out:
http://www.supratrucks.com/S-Runner%202JZGTE.htm
This tacoma is very similar to what you attempting to do; but also remarkable after the product is finished and completed. Good luck!
http://www.supratrucks.com/S-Runner%202JZGTE.htm
This tacoma is very similar to what you attempting to do; but also remarkable after the product is finished and completed. Good luck!
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Just my 2 cents, but swapping a TRD supercharger onto your existing 3.4 will be way, way, way easier and cheaper than what you're contemplating. Your swap will more than likely be illegal, as well, as you'll be violating whatever emissions laws apply in your area, if any.
Good luck, whichever path you take.
Good luck, whichever path you take.
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It will make it practically impossible to re-sell later on. If you do manage to find a buyer, you're going to take a huge hit on value. I know, you plan on keeping it forever and ever...
The supercharger keeps you legit, costs less in the long run, will be easier, and can put out decent power (just check anyone who's modded their supercharged trucks).
But if you're devoted to the idea of the Supra motor, go ahead. I just wish to inform.
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You also need to address the possible failure of associated driveline parts when hooked up to the motor and tranny since Toyota didn't design the driveline and rearend for stresses of high horsepower so I'd stick with the stock 320hp and not go pumping up the PSI of the turbos.
This swap has been done by somebody on here but I think he ran into issues and gave up on the project since I never saw any results or even think it really hit the road.
This swap has been done by somebody on here but I think he ran into issues and gave up on the project since I never saw any results or even think it really hit the road.
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You also need to address the possible failure of associated driveline parts when hooked up to the motor and tranny since Toyota didn't design the driveline and rearend for stresses of high horsepower so I'd stick with the stock 320hp and not go pumping up the PSI of the turbos.
This swap has been done by somebody on here but I think he ran into issues and gave up on the project since I never saw any results or even think it really hit the road.
This swap has been done by somebody on here but I think he ran into issues and gave up on the project since I never saw any results or even think it really hit the road.
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How old are you?? to were you dont know if they do emmisions or not. I once heard a women say that she didnt know that each state had multiple zip codes and she was like 40. Im hoping your younger than that with a comment like that
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i once saw a guy at a local store with his 4runner that had a 350 corvette motor in it. My jaws dropped when i saw that thing go.
best of luck to you if you're really doing the swap, please post a vid once it's complete.
best of luck to you if you're really doing the swap, please post a vid once it's complete.
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uh if you wanna see the amount of work that goes into swapping in a 2jz... find the guy on pirate swapping a 2jz into his runner. if it wasnt for his incredible fab work... it wouldnt happen. realy though... go find it.
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Wow, you guys need to do some more research.
Go good 2jz in pirate. You'll see multiple trucks completed by Idaho-Speed. They offered motor mount and trans mount kits.
Youtube 2jz truck and find a few drag racing.
Motor mounts are the same 'I hear'. But I just started researching this swap yesterday.
$1500 for 35k-45k motor and auto tranny from Japan, compared to $2500 for the 2l-t I wanted to do which is direct drop in.
I think i'll spend $1000 less on a motor and get 200+ more hp.
Go good 2jz in pirate. You'll see multiple trucks completed by Idaho-Speed. They offered motor mount and trans mount kits.
Youtube 2jz truck and find a few drag racing.
Motor mounts are the same 'I hear'. But I just started researching this swap yesterday.
$1500 for 35k-45k motor and auto tranny from Japan, compared to $2500 for the 2l-t I wanted to do which is direct drop in.
I think i'll spend $1000 less on a motor and get 200+ more hp.
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What I'm saying is that, unless your engine is from a vehicle as new or newer than the one your swapping into, you are violating state and federal laws and could be subject to fines. Will you get caught? Probably not. Do I want to get caught violating emissions laws with the current environmentally concious landscape? Probably not.
It will make it practically impossible to re-sell later on. If you do manage to find a buyer, you're going to take a huge hit on value. I know, you plan on keeping it forever and ever...
The supercharger keeps you legit, costs less in the long run, will be easier, and can put out decent power (just check anyone who's modded their supercharged trucks).
But if you're devoted to the idea of the Supra motor, go ahead. I just wish to inform.
It will make it practically impossible to re-sell later on. If you do manage to find a buyer, you're going to take a huge hit on value. I know, you plan on keeping it forever and ever...
The supercharger keeps you legit, costs less in the long run, will be easier, and can put out decent power (just check anyone who's modded their supercharged trucks).
But if you're devoted to the idea of the Supra motor, go ahead. I just wish to inform.
I just emissioned my 1988 Jeep Wrangler with a 1980 chevy 350. We have state run emissions centers and it says right on my PASS sheet that it has a 5.7 liter carbed. They passed me even though they know I was running a 'configuration' not certified by the EPA. Basically because my chassis did not come with a 5.7l option.
There are no 'fines or criminal time' for doing these swaps, in some states (like california) they will just deny you registration.
Many states also have statutes or regulations prohibiting tampering in general. Most of these laws specifically prohibit tampering by individuals. A few specifically prohibit engine switching, using provisions similar to those stated in EPA's policy. To determine the state law in any given state, the state's Attorney General's office should be contacted. In addition, many states have state or local
antitampering inspection programs which require a periodic inspection of vehicles in that area, to determine the integrity of emission control systems. Many programs have established policies for vehicles which have been engine switched. While EPA does not require these programs to fail engine switched vehicles which are not in compliance with federal policy, the Agency does strongly recommend that these programs set their requirements so as to be consistent with the federal law. State or local programs which pass illegally engine switched vehicles may mislead federally regulated parties into believing that engine switching is allowed by federal law.
Source: http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg00355.html
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well i just bought a supra motor for my truck and i do not really care about wheather or not it will pass the emissions and i know when the motor is fully built and ready to be installed it will be well worth it
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