3rz swap info

ckblum · 11-01-2009, 11:19 AM

I searched and I barely got any results. If someone wants to search again and post some results that's great but I'd really appreciate info from people who have actually done the swap (if there are any).

My truck is a 1990 4x4, 5spd, 22re.

Does it bolt up to the 22re tranny? If not is it possible to bolt up to the 6 speed tranny? I only ask because I've seen a 6 speed for sale for a decent price.

Is it easier to swap into a truck with the V6 3.0L? If so I might just sell mine and buy an extended cab V6 cause mines just single cab, 2 birds 1 stone.

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ckblum · 11-02-2009, 12:18 PM

I guess people just talk about swapping engines and no one ever does it?

dunnarunner · 11-09-2009, 01:52 AM

sorry about your frustration, most people take a bit of time to read through some of the threads, I can only suggest that you give people time to find the thread before you give up on them, I have only just found it myself, you have already answered one of your questions. naturally it is easier to just buy a vehicle with the engine you are looking for, most engine conversions cost a lot of money that could have been saved if they simply changed vehicles. Some do the change because at the time it looked like the cheaper way out, but I can tell you it is not, buying adapters and modifying things because the body with your engine has been altered at the factory to carry that mod. the second part you mentioned was you may prefer the other model, because of the cab setup. I would say before you think of modifying your vehicle, be sure that vehicle is what you will be happy with in the long run. You will never get your money back on any modified vehicle.

dunnarunner · 11-09-2009, 01:58 AM

By the way maybe you should check this guy out

http://www.yotatech.com/f161/3rz-81-...mounts-190437/

He may be able to help you, sometimes you have the answers in the same place you are in, just need to look. I have joined this forum to get information about other mods for my vehicle, and I am in Australia, but it all helps in the end.

ckblum · 11-09-2009, 06:48 PM

I wasn't frustrated, just kinda surprised that for all the talk about engine swaps and people giving advice on what to swap maybe someone might have some real info.

I would prefer to stick with the older style trucks because I can get one for $6000-8000 less than a 96 Tacoma. Plus I just like the older trucks a bit more and any aftermarket for them is usually cheaper. I don't really build a truck to my likings just to sell it so losing money when I go to sell doesn't bother me because I drove it how I wanted it to be.

dunnarunner · 11-09-2009, 08:53 PM

Well as I have also said maybe the link above may be of some help to you, I had a quick look around for you, my biggest problem is I am in Australia, and you have vehicles we do not have and visa versa. I have made modifications to my vehicle, but the names of some of the things I used may leave you wondering what it is, I understand that some people like the older cars, I do, my vehicle is 1985 4 Runner, and I see you have those in abundance, but when I say I have used a Holden engine many of you would not have heard of them. This makes a lot of my friends ask; Why go to America to find information about mt vehicle when America doesn't have this engine, they do not understand that you have other things that I may use, and maybe even go to the lengths of importing it from your country. I am only trying to help you if I can, and you looked like you were frustrated at no response, I have had things in forums that have laid dormant for months, then someone finds it and responds, sometimes I have long forgotten what it was and have found an alternative. I wish you luck with your search.

Clive.

ckblum · 11-20-2009, 08:08 PM

Does anyone have any more info on this? Or have any resources I could look into?

**Tofer** · 11-20-2009, 08:41 PM

ORS used to sell the wring harness conversion but tehy are out of business. I plan on putting a 3rz into my 89 when the 3.0 goes.

it is my understanding that DOES have the same bellhousing as the W56 tranny.. however that information didnt not come from a reliable source, so i ahve no idea if its true or not.

scuba · 11-20-2009, 08:58 PM

Although I have no first hand info with the swap, I have done alot of reading about it.
I believe the W56 will bolt up to the 3rz, you may have to use the W59 bellhousing (the standard 3rz 5speed). Although if your going to throw in an engine with 40-50 more horses it may be smart to step it up to the R150(1?;F?) that's used with the 3.0 or 22ret..

I think you'd have more trouble putting a Tacoma 6Speed in than dropping the motor in, the tcase is in the wrong side..
I have talked about this swap on this site before, so maybe try looking up posts by me with key words "3rz swap". I know there's a guy on here that did a 2rz swap into a first gen pickup, relativley the same swap.

Also, search pirate 4x4 and go to Petersons4wd mag website, I know for a fact they have a pretty detailed article. In the august 08 Toyota special P4WD mag they did a swap into a truck named "clampy"

"Clampy 3rz swap"..

Good luck on your searching..

**Tofer** · 11-20-2009, 09:01 PM

SCUBA! you said more than:

SEARCH!!

scuba · 11-20-2009, 09:25 PM

I'm feelin thrifty

ckblum · 11-20-2009, 10:20 PM

Thanks Scuba, that's the kinda post I was hoping for, no offense to anyone.

ckblum · 11-20-2009, 10:37 PM

$600 for a wiring harness? Makes swapping easier but I dunno if it makes it $600 easier.

http://www.offroadsolutions.com/engi...swap_harnesses

scuba · 11-20-2009, 10:45 PM

You read the part about them being out of business right..?

Oh and I'm sure you expect exhaust work with an engine swap, keep in mine the 3rz exhaust is on the passenger side, not the drivers side like your truck.

ckblum · 11-21-2009, 11:27 AM

Nope, didn't know they were out of business just found the link to the wiring harness. No wonder they went out of business $600 is a little much for a bundle of wires hahaha.

11-20-2009, 08:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	ORS used to sell the wring harness conversion but tehy are out of business. I plan on putting a 3rz into my 89 when the 3.0 goes. it is my understanding that DOES have the same bellhousing as the W56 tranny.. however that information didnt not come from a reliable source, so i ahve no idea if its true or not. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

11-20-2009, 08:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	Although I have no first hand info with the swap, I have done alot of reading about it. I believe the W56 will bolt up to the 3rz, you may have to use the W59 bellhousing (the standard 3rz 5speed). Although if your going to throw in an engine with 40-50 more horses it may be smart to step it up to the R150(1?;F?) that's used with the 3.0 or 22ret.. I think you'd have more trouble putting a Tacoma 6Speed in than dropping the motor in, the tcase is in the wrong side.. I have talked about this swap on this site before, so maybe try looking up posts by me with key words "3rz swap". I know there's a guy on here that did a 2rz swap into a first gen pickup, relativley the same swap. Also, search pirate 4x4 and go to Petersons4wd mag website, I know for a fact they have a pretty detailed article. In the august 08 Toyota special P4WD mag they did a swap into a truck named "clampy" "Clampy 3rz swap".. Good luck on your searching.. __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

11-20-2009, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	SCUBA! you said more than: SEARCH!! __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

11-20-2009, 09:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	I'm feelin thrifty __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

11-20-2009, 10:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	You read the part about them being out of business right..? Oh and I'm sure you expect exhaust work with an engine swap, keep in mine the 3rz exhaust is on the passenger side, not the drivers side like your truck. __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

11-02-2009, 12:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
ckblum Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 56	I guess people just talk about swapping engines and no one ever does it?

11-09-2009, 01:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
dunnarunner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rockhampton Australia Posts: 40	sorry about your frustration, most people take a bit of time to read through some of the threads, I can only suggest that you give people time to find the thread before you give up on them, I have only just found it myself, you have already answered one of your questions. naturally it is easier to just buy a vehicle with the engine you are looking for, most engine conversions cost a lot of money that could have been saved if they simply changed vehicles. Some do the change because at the time it looked like the cheaper way out, but I can tell you it is not, buying adapters and modifying things because the body with your engine has been altered at the factory to carry that mod. the second part you mentioned was you may prefer the other model, because of the cab setup. I would say before you think of modifying your vehicle, be sure that vehicle is what you will be happy with in the long run. You will never get your money back on any modified vehicle.

11-09-2009, 01:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
dunnarunner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rockhampton Australia Posts: 40	By the way maybe you should check this guy out http://www.yotatech.com/f161/3rz-81-...mounts-190437/ He may be able to help you, sometimes you have the answers in the same place you are in, just need to look. I have joined this forum to get information about other mods for my vehicle, and I am in Australia, but it all helps in the end.

11-09-2009, 06:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
ckblum Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 56	I wasn't frustrated, just kinda surprised that for all the talk about engine swaps and people giving advice on what to swap maybe someone might have some real info. I would prefer to stick with the older style trucks because I can get one for $6000-8000 less than a 96 Tacoma. Plus I just like the older trucks a bit more and any aftermarket for them is usually cheaper. I don't really build a truck to my likings just to sell it so losing money when I go to sell doesn't bother me because I drove it how I wanted it to be.

11-09-2009, 08:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
dunnarunner Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Rockhampton Australia Posts: 40	Well as I have also said maybe the link above may be of some help to you, I had a quick look around for you, my biggest problem is I am in Australia, and you have vehicles we do not have and visa versa. I have made modifications to my vehicle, but the names of some of the things I used may leave you wondering what it is, I understand that some people like the older cars, I do, my vehicle is 1985 4 Runner, and I see you have those in abundance, but when I say I have used a Holden engine many of you would not have heard of them. This makes a lot of my friends ask; Why go to America to find information about mt vehicle when America doesn't have this engine, they do not understand that you have other things that I may use, and maybe even go to the lengths of importing it from your country. I am only trying to help you if I can, and you looked like you were frustrated at no response, I have had things in forums that have laid dormant for months, then someone finds it and responds, sometimes I have long forgotten what it was and have found an alternative. I wish you luck with your search. Clive.

11-20-2009, 08:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
ckblum Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 56	Does anyone have any more info on this? Or have any resources I could look into?

11-20-2009, 10:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
ckblum Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 56	Thanks Scuba, that's the kinda post I was hoping for, no offense to anyone.

11-20-2009, 10:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
ckblum Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 56	$600 for a wiring harness? Makes swapping easier but I dunno if it makes it $600 easier. http://www.offroadsolutions.com/engi...swap_harnesses

11-21-2009, 11:27 AM	#15 (permalink)
ckblum Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 56	Nope, didn't know they were out of business just found the link to the wiring harness. No wonder they went out of business $600 is a little much for a bundle of wires hahaha.

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