1UZFE swap into 2nd Gen 4Runner - Page 2

Cebby · 04-07-2005, 03:38 PM

It might be more like 2 1/2" longer in reality. I really couldn't get good dims. Seems to be a fair amount of space betweeen the current engine and the firewall (no crossover pipe on the back of the 1UZ

), so I'll shift back as much as possible, absolute minimum forward (obviously). I need stuff out of the engine bay so I can get in there...

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99_Runner · 04-08-2005, 09:32 AM

This is so cool. I am thinking about doing the same thing so I am very interested in update and any other info you have to others that are thinking about this same swap. Can't wait till you get everything figured out.

Cebby · 04-09-2005, 05:07 PM

Here's a shot of one of the shop inhabitants:

That's a roadrace body under the tarp - with molded in flares for covering nice big meats. The frame has been stripped and powdercoated. That's a 502 big block getting a test fit...

Note the carbon fiber half shafts at the rear...

The 4Runner and engine will be at the raceshop next week.

AgRunner06 · 04-09-2005, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

"a good 3"+ longer" How is that going to fit? Last time I looked there wasn't a lot of extra room behind the radiator.

I bet he can fix that with an electric fan if he runs out of room in the back.

I'm glad to see it coming together. Good luck Cebby. I'll definitely be keeping a close eye on this.

Cebby · 04-23-2005, 05:22 PM

I guess this is progress...

Pic of the LS400 trans to be converted to 4WD:

2WD Tailhousing and output:

I will be getting my own garage "stall" at the raceshop

- stuff had to get moved around to make room for me. Was supposed to move the 4Runner down there for a while now - looks like tomorrow if weather permits (we are supposed to get 4 inches of snow tonight and another 3 tomorrow) I won't be able to get rolling on this until after May 3rd due to workload.

Aside from the Marlin "stuff" I need (easy enough, just order..), I need to locate an a340F tailhousing and output shaft (or an internally grenaded a340f to strip).

Faded · 04-25-2005, 04:10 PM

Cebby,

Nice pics, looks like more progress w/the swap. Just curious, but what is the designator on the Lex A/T? Also, it seems like the reference was made in the past that you could use a T100 auto trans, correct? I've been thinking about maybe picking up an earlier (3.slow) T100 and doing the swap but would like to know what I need to look for.

Good luck with the work ahead. If you have time and remember I'm sure we'd all appreciate pics and commentary.

Cebby · 04-25-2005, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faded

Cebby,

Nice pics, looks like more progress w/the swap. Just curious, but what is the designator on the Lex A/T? Also, it seems like the reference was made in the past that you could use a T100 auto trans, correct? I've been thinking about maybe picking up an earlier (3.slow) T100 and doing the swap but would like to know what I need to look for.

Good luck with the work ahead. If you have time and remember I'm sure we'd all appreciate pics and commentary.

The trans is a 30-41LE (aka a341e). The T100 trans might work for this - I was looking at the pre 95 T100 (a340f) for use behind my 3.0 due to the removable t-case and passenger side drop.

The main reason I'm going with the Lex AT is compatibility. It is entirely possible that the current a340f(or T100 a340f) would work though. Regarding compatibility - I have a 1UZ harness and ECU. The trans is controlled by the ECU, so most of this will be plug and play. You need a bellhousing from a trans used behind either the 1UZ or 2UZ (3UZ probably also), so once I saw how easy it was to convert the 2WD to 4WD (bolt together but time consuming) I thought this was the easiest route. Plus the trans only cost me $300 and it came with the torque converter.

I plan to do a crawler at the same time, so I won't really have much monkeying around with the t-case end of things. The Marlin adapters will make this part the easiest piece of the swap.

Cebby · 04-26-2005, 06:52 AM

Here's the parts list to convert the 2WD trans to 4WD:

Looks like I'll be scaring up a dead A340F somewhere. Even at a 20% discount, those prices are more than a used A340F around here.

jerbear · 05-02-2005, 05:00 PM

Hi Cebby
Great start to the project. I was also following swaps at Lextreme. Sorry to see your engine finally gave up. I was wondering what info you might have regarding this engine swap but maintaining a manual tranny?
Thanks and good luck
Jerbear

Cebby · 05-02-2005, 07:45 PM

Mainly, if you go manual tranny, you can use aftermarket ECU's, but you need a custom bellhousing. I haven't done "alot" of research on manuals since I wasn't going that direction. There are other things needed too - related to the clutch, pressure plate, crank machining (I think) among other things. There are two places specializing in making the parts for these conversions that I know of:

Dellow Automotive: http://www.dellowauto.com.au/main.html

or

Castlemain Rod Shop: http://www.rodshop.com.au/

Rusert · 05-03-2005, 07:39 PM

Find a junk AW4 out of a Jeep Cherokee and swap the 4WD tailhousing and output shaft, add a clocking ring and bolt up a Dana 300 or atlas. Don't mess with all that Toyota stuff unless you want to spend a lot of $$$$, domestic junkyard stuff is a lot cheaper.

firemedic · 05-03-2005, 10:14 PM

I think if you are going to go to the trouble of putting in a Toyota V8, you'll finish it up with a Toyota tranny and txfr

Cebby · 05-04-2005, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusert

Find a junk AW4 out of a Jeep Cherokee and swap the 4WD tailhousing and output shaft, add a clocking ring and bolt up a Dana 300 or atlas. Don't mess with all that Toyota stuff unless you want to spend a lot of $$$$, domestic junkyard stuff is a lot cheaper.

How is getting an Atlas cheaper? Those are big $$$. Besides, I already have two Toy cases. IMO, putting Jeep parts into a Toy is like...well, like putting Jeep parts in a Toy - beyond backwards... Import junkyard stuff is plenty cheap if you know where to go.

Rusert · 05-04-2005, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cebby

How is getting an Atlas cheaper? Those are big $$$. Besides, I already have two Toy cases. IMO, putting Jeep parts into a Toy is like...well, like putting Jeep parts in a Toy - beyond backwards... Import junkyard stuff is plenty cheap if you know where to go.

The Atlas is not cheaper, dana 300 would be. Just offering up ideas for ya.

914runner · 05-04-2005, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusert

The Atlas is not cheaper, dana 300 would be. Just offering up ideas for ya.

With Marlin's new front dig Toy t-case no one will ever think of or put a Dana 300 in a Toy again! That thing is gonna be awesome!

So hows the progress with your swap Cebby? Have you found the junk tranny yet?

Cebby · 05-04-2005, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 914runner

With Marlin's new front dig Toy t-case no one will ever think of or put a Dana 300 in a Toy again! That thing is gonna be awesome!

So hows the progress with your swap Cebby? Have you found the junk tranny yet?

No on the trans. I just got back from Florida last night - been there since Friday.

We were supposed to pickupp the engine today and tow the Runner to the raceshop, but the warehouse's forklift quit

We are going to try again this Friday.

I have somewhere to try (nearby) for the trans.

Cebby · 05-06-2005, 01:28 PM

The day has come....

I got the Runner moved down to the raceshop today along with the motor. I'm going to head down later to do a little prep and take a few pics...

Phisherman · 05-06-2005, 02:38 PM

Will you have to get a new drive shaft since the trans is different? Do you know if the A340E, from I don't know, say a 4Runner, would bolt up to that bell housing?

Cebby · 05-06-2005, 04:01 PM

I'll be getting new DS's due to the addition of a Crawler while I'm at it. The trans is the same length though. I will be pushing mine back a touch to ease space contraints up front. All of the a34x trannies will bolt to the bellhousing. You also need the correct torque converter.

For example, an A340F or even my A340H will bolt directly to it. I'm using the LS400 trans for three reasons - #1, I know it will "talk" to the ECU (shifting and speed sensors etc) and #2, I know it can take the power. And the big #3..., when I add the tailhousing and output from the A340F, I can bolt up dual cases and maintain my passenger side drop (Using Marlin stuff of course

). This is another reason I'm not just bolting the bellhousing to my existing A340H.

I'm killing several birds with one stone...

I wish I had the $$$ to do an SAS now also, but it will have to wait a while...

Cebby · 05-28-2005, 08:06 PM

Not much of an update. The Runner is back out in the elements. The owner of the shop blew up the V10 in his Dodge dually, so he is getting a rebuild. Since I had the prime slot, I got bumped out.

It's OK really. I still need to get my Marlin adapter here and a donor A340F.

mt_goat · 05-29-2005, 06:27 AM

Are the leaking issues of the Marlin adapters holding you up too?

Cebby · 05-29-2005, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

Are the leaking issues of the Marlin adapters holding you up too?

No. Definitely abberations I'd say. If it is the same piece and some leak and some don't, sure sounds like an install issue to me.

BruceTS had mentioned that all of his bolts were loose after 200 miles - I'll bet some folks haven't rechecked their bolts - although, I think Bruce is probably just a touch harder on his rig than most.

mt_goat · 05-29-2005, 11:04 AM

The leaking I'm refering too is an internal leak between the tranny and transfer case. The ATF from the tranny leaks into the transfer case, I know one guy that has to check his ATF daily and said he looses about a quart a week into the transfer case. I'll have to ask him if he drains it out of the transfer case to keep it from over filling. Marlin has said they have a new design in the works and should be ready in a few weeks, but they have been saying that for a few months now.

Cebby · 05-29-2005, 03:21 PM

I didn't know about the internal leak...

I thought you were referring to the external leak on the case-to-case junction that is a current topic here (somewhere). So you are referring to the trans-to-case junction (ie. V6 adapter) I'm assuming. Thanks for the tip. I don't need to get it right away. If it's truly a couple of weeks out, then I can wait. I can fit the motor/trans and worry about the tcases later.

I'll need to ask around on the Marlin board and see what I can dig up. Cheese has this setup, maybe he will chime in. I PM'd him a few days back about something else.

I bought an engine stand today so I can get the motor off of the pallet it came on and start to figure out the bracketry to use all my 3.0 accessories on the "new" motor.

mt_goat · 05-29-2005, 05:22 PM

Yeah, on the V6 adapter. Is that what you are going to use?

04-08-2005, 09:32 AM	#27 (permalink)
99_Runner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 1,115	This is so cool. I am thinking about doing the same thing so I am very interested in update and any other info you have to others that are thinking about this same swap. Can't wait till you get everything figured out. __________________ Drew 99 4Runner SR5, auto, 3.4 V6, factory rear locker, 265/75 Yokohama Geolander AT+II Stock for now, but hopefully not for long.

04-09-2005, 05:07 PM	#28 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Here's a shot of one of the shop inhabitants: That's a roadrace body under the tarp - with molded in flares for covering nice big meats. The frame has been stripped and powdercoated. That's a 502 big block getting a test fit... Note the carbon fiber half shafts at the rear... The 4Runner and engine will be at the raceshop next week. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR Last edited by Cebby; 04-09-2005 at 05:08 PM.

04-23-2005, 05:22 PM	#30 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	I guess this is progress... Pic of the LS400 trans to be converted to 4WD: 2WD Tailhousing and output: I will be getting my own garage "stall" at the raceshop - stuff had to get moved around to make room for me. Was supposed to move the 4Runner down there for a while now - looks like tomorrow if weather permits (we are supposed to get 4 inches of snow tonight and another 3 tomorrow) I won't be able to get rolling on this until after May 3rd due to workload. Aside from the Marlin "stuff" I need (easy enough, just order..), I need to locate an a340F tailhousing and output shaft (or an internally grenaded a340f to strip). __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

04-25-2005, 04:10 PM	#31 (permalink)
Faded Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Iona, ID Posts: 186	Cebby, Nice pics, looks like more progress w/the swap. Just curious, but what is the designator on the Lex A/T? Also, it seems like the reference was made in the past that you could use a T100 auto trans, correct? I've been thinking about maybe picking up an earlier (3.slow) T100 and doing the swap but would like to know what I need to look for. Good luck with the work ahead. If you have time and remember I'm sure we'd all appreciate pics and commentary. __________________ 1991 Truck 2WD 22RE 5SPD

04-26-2005, 06:52 AM	#33 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Here's the parts list to convert the 2WD trans to 4WD: Looks like I'll be scaring up a dead A340F somewhere. Even at a 20% discount, those prices are more than a used A340F around here. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

05-02-2005, 05:00 PM	#34 (permalink)
jerbear Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alden, New York, Suburb of Buffalo, NY Posts: 94	Hi Cebby Great start to the project. I was also following swaps at Lextreme. Sorry to see your engine finally gave up. I was wondering what info you might have regarding this engine swap but maintaining a manual tranny? Thanks and good luck Jerbear __________________ JerBear

05-02-2005, 07:45 PM	#35 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Mainly, if you go manual tranny, you can use aftermarket ECU's, but you need a custom bellhousing. I haven't done "alot" of research on manuals since I wasn't going that direction. There are other things needed too - related to the clutch, pressure plate, crank machining (I think) among other things. There are two places specializing in making the parts for these conversions that I know of: Dellow Automotive: http://www.dellowauto.com.au/main.html or Castlemain Rod Shop: http://www.rodshop.com.au/ __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

05-03-2005, 07:39 PM	#36 (permalink)
Rusert Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2	Find a junk AW4 out of a Jeep Cherokee and swap the 4WD tailhousing and output shaft, add a clocking ring and bolt up a Dana 300 or atlas. Don't mess with all that Toyota stuff unless you want to spend a lot of $$$$, domestic junkyard stuff is a lot cheaper.

05-03-2005, 10:14 PM	#37 (permalink)
firemedic Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Camas, WA USA Posts: 545	I think if you are going to go to the trouble of putting in a Toyota V8, you'll finish it up with a Toyota tranny and txfr __________________ Ben Silva 96 Lexus LX450, 125k, front/rear OEM diff locks, CDL switch, Pin 7 mod, power points, wired 850w inverter, jdm "oh crap" bar, OME heavy (850/863) lift, 285/75/16 Cooper STT, spare tire lift mod 98 Lexus LX470, 135k, Britax car seat ;) TLCA member #14300 Camas, WA USA

05-06-2005, 01:28 PM	#42 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	The day has come.... I got the Runner moved down to the raceshop today along with the motor. I'm going to head down later to do a little prep and take a few pics... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

05-06-2005, 02:38 PM	#43 (permalink)
Phisherman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 366	Will you have to get a new drive shaft since the trans is different? Do you know if the A340E, from I don't know, say a 4Runner, would bolt up to that bell housing? __________________ 2000 4Runner w/Limited Interior Swap, 170k miles, last leg. Give a man fish and he can eat for a day. Give a man Phish and he will groove for a lifetime.

05-06-2005, 04:01 PM	#44 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	I'll be getting new DS's due to the addition of a Crawler while I'm at it. The trans is the same length though. I will be pushing mine back a touch to ease space contraints up front. All of the a34x trannies will bolt to the bellhousing. You also need the correct torque converter. For example, an A340F or even my A340H will bolt directly to it. I'm using the LS400 trans for three reasons - #1, I know it will "talk" to the ECU (shifting and speed sensors etc) and #2, I know it can take the power. And the big #3..., when I add the tailhousing and output from the A340F, I can bolt up dual cases and maintain my passenger side drop (Using Marlin stuff of course ). This is another reason I'm not just bolting the bellhousing to my existing A340H. I'm killing several birds with one stone... I wish I had the $$$ to do an SAS now also, but it will have to wait a while... __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR Last edited by Cebby; 05-28-2005 at 08:09 PM.

05-28-2005, 08:06 PM	#45 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	Not much of an update. The Runner is back out in the elements. The owner of the shop blew up the V10 in his Dodge dually, so he is getting a rebuild. Since I had the prime slot, I got bumped out. It's OK really. I still need to get my Marlin adapter here and a donor A340F. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

05-29-2005, 06:27 AM	#46 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	Are the leaking issues of the Marlin adapters holding you up too? __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

05-29-2005, 11:04 AM	#48 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	The leaking I'm refering too is an internal leak between the tranny and transfer case. The ATF from the tranny leaks into the transfer case, I know one guy that has to check his ATF daily and said he looses about a quart a week into the transfer case. I'll have to ask him if he drains it out of the transfer case to keep it from over filling. Marlin has said they have a new design in the works and should be ready in a few weeks, but they have been saying that for a few months now. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000. Last edited by mt_goat; 05-29-2005 at 11:05 AM.

05-29-2005, 03:21 PM	#49 (permalink)
Cebby Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,246	I didn't know about the internal leak... I thought you were referring to the external leak on the case-to-case junction that is a current topic here (somewhere). So you are referring to the trans-to-case junction (ie. V6 adapter) I'm assuming. Thanks for the tip. I don't need to get it right away. If it's truly a couple of weeks out, then I can wait. I can fit the motor/trans and worry about the tcases later. I'll need to ask around on the Marlin board and see what I can dig up. Cheese has this setup, maybe he will chime in. I PM'd him a few days back about something else. I bought an engine stand today so I can get the motor off of the pallet it came on and start to figure out the bracketry to use all my 3.0 accessories on the "new" motor. __________________ UZswap.com A site dedicated to sharing info for swapping the Toyota/ Lexus UZ (V8) engines into Toyota Trucks and 4Runners. My 4Runner 1993 4Runner, 1UZ (V8) auto dual ultimate crawler, double locked, 35's on beadlocked SR5 alloys, low lift, hacked fenders, tubbed firewall, custom armor TOOLandFAB.com A discussion forum dedicated to tools, fabrication & workshops. See my JD2 Bender Hydro Conversion BUY THIS 2008 CALENDAR

05-29-2005, 05:22 PM	#50 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	Yeah, on the V6 adapter. Is that what you are going to use? __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

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