yotaman's 2nd Gen 3.4 swap! - Page 4

yotaman · 08-17-2007, 10:46 PM

I've got over 300 miles on the truck and it's doing good. I still don't have the hood on.

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Dante82 · 08-19-2007, 01:11 PM

Thanks for all this info. I have a question about what did you use for the clutch? I heard that the flywheel for both the 3.0 and 3.4 are the same. Can you use the 3.0 clutch also? And what about the t.o bearing and pilot bearing?

Thanks

yotaman · 08-19-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante82

Thanks for all this info. I have a question about what did you use for the clutch? I heard that the flywheel for both the 3.0 and 3.4 are the same. Can you use the 3.0 clutch also? And what about the t.o bearing and pilot bearing?

Thanks

I used the 3.4 flywheel, pressure plate, clutch disk and pilot bearing. I used the 3.0 throw out bearing.

DH6twinotter · 08-23-2007, 03:48 PM

Really nice looking swap! Wish I had the know how for that kind of thing.

1uz Celica...wow. That would be awesome!

yotaman · 08-23-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DH6twinotter

Really nice looking swap! Wish I had the know how for that kind of thing.

1uz Celica...wow. That would be awesome!

Thanks.

It was so much fun I got another 1990 4Runner to swap another 3.4 with an automatic in. My woman doesn't like driving the 5 speed. I understand what she is saying, It's a real pain (even dangerous) to drive the 5 speed when you have a child in the back seat wanting attention.

I'm still trying to find a 1970-1974 Celica in good shape to swap my 1UZ in. It'll be cool. It'll have rack and pinion steering maybe a 5 speed, 9.5" FJ80 ring & pinion, etc, etc, etc. If anyone finds one in good shape let me know.

SAS'dToy · 08-23-2007, 09:00 PM

I know someone who has a 3.4 for an automatic...pm me an offer, you know what I got in it

thefallman · 08-23-2007, 09:32 PM

the only 2 parts i bought from ORS was the crossover and battery tray.

Crossover because everyone i talked to said it would cost more to have them fab it and i didnt have the time to do it myself. plus there's is really very nice and well put together.

the battery tray because i wasnt any extra shipping and i didnt want to have to screw with that cause i got myself into a real time crunch at the end of the swap i was moving out of state and was already 2 weeks late.

yotaman · 08-23-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thefallman

the only 2 parts i bought from ORS was the crossover and battery tray.

Crossover because everyone i talked to said it would cost more to have them fab it and i didnt have the time to do it myself. plus there's is really very nice and well put together.

the battery tray because i wasnt any extra shipping and i didnt want to have to screw with that cause i got myself into a real time crunch at the end of the swap i was moving out of state and was already 2 weeks late.

My muffler shop said if I bring them the motor before it's put into the truck they'd do the crossover for $100.00 using the stock Toyota flex joint.

yotaman · 08-23-2007, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SAS'dToy

I know someone who has a 3.4 for an automatic...pm me an offer, you know what I got in it

I'll get in touch in a few weeks to see if you still have it. What I do need is a Auto for this truck. I'm thinking the transfer case is messed up but it might be the transmission to. It will not move if you have the transfer case in 2 HIGH or 4 HIGH. It's fine in 4 LOW. I'm hoping it's just the transfer case. Anyone have any ideas?

thefallman · 08-24-2007, 09:54 AM

hey been doing research on the Auto transmission issue for our trucks. Look into the A343F it comes in the LX450 and Landcruisers you want the 95 to 97 i believe it still has a right side drop too im going to find out today. ill post what i find and hopefully have some pics too.

yotaman · 08-24-2007, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefallman

hey been doing research on the Auto transmission issue for our trucks. Look into the A343F it comes in the LX450 and Landcruisers you want the 95 to 97 i believe it still has a right side drop too im going to find out today. ill post what i find and hopefully have some pics too.

You are correct on the drop. It's a passenger side drop. I think the transfer case rear output is also off center to the passenger side to because the rear FZJ80 axle I have is offset a few inches to the passenger side.

thefallman · 08-24-2007, 03:33 PM

ill post pics tonight but yes right side drop but the rear output is also dropped to the right side.

DH6twinotter · 08-24-2007, 05:06 PM

Is the A343F's tcase full-time with a lockable center diff, or am I thinking of something else? Are there any pros or cons to this other than a bit more wear and tear on the front?

Greg, I'll keep an eye out for celicas.

yotaman · 08-27-2007, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH6twinotter

Is the A343F's tcase full-time with a lockable center diff, or am I thinking of something else? Are there any pros or cons to this other than a bit more wear and tear on the front?

Greg, I'll keep an eye out for celicas.

You are correct DH6. The cruiser transmissions are full time.

I know the AW4 transmissions in Jeeps are built by Aisin and share the same internals as the A340H. They have a mechanical transfer case like the A340F that come in the Tacomas and new 96+ 4Runners. The AW4 has a passenger side drop transfer case unlike the A340F.

I have a buddy with a few good AW4's so I'm thinking about trying to make one work in this truck. I have to measure it to see if it's to long or short. We'll see.

DH6twinotter · 08-27-2007, 05:59 PM

Wow...good to know! I find it amazing how some folks on this forum can find parts from one engine or make and fit it on another. Pretty slick stuff!

thefallman · 08-27-2007, 06:06 PM

Greg

with that AW4 you should beable to just change the bell housing and shorten or lengthen your drivelines

yotaman · 08-27-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefallman

Greg

with that AW4 you should beable to just change the bell housing and shorten or lengthen your drivelines

That and just figure out the cross member. It's to bad this is the womens little truck and not the beater or I'd put a Dana 300 behind it so I could do front digs.

Four Runner · 08-27-2007, 08:02 PM

Greg!! Sorry I havn't chimed back in sooner, way busy, as I'm sure you are.

Let us know if the overheating's solved, and oh yeah, you would've been drooling today!! Buddy bought a 73 Celica and we've been going around hunting parts.

There's a couple yards in Arizona, and a couple out in California, just visited them while there, that have so many parts, as well as rust free panels.... DROOOOOLLLLL...

yotaman · 08-28-2007, 06:46 PM

I'm having to convert my automatic 3.4 wiring harness into a 3.4 manual harness. Sounds easy enough but it's a pain in the ass.

I'm been having odd things happen with the motor lately and I'm thinking it's because the automatic ECU is looking for signals from the automatic and it's not getting it. So I've redone all the wires and plugs so I can use a manual ECU. It wasn't fun.

yotaman · 08-28-2007, 10:06 PM

It's back together. I took it for a test drive tonight. Seems to run a little better. No check engine light as or right now.

I need to order a plug for the manual ECU. I ordered the wrong one, so I need to get the right one so I can put the dash back together and get the A/C charged.

I was going to get a body lift so I can get the hood back on but I've decided a hood scoop would look more pimp. I just have to find one I like.

I got some brand new 33" for it to.

What's the normal cruise RPM for the 3.4 at like 70 miles per hour? I'm just a little over 3000 RPM's at 70with 31" tires. That seems high so I'm thinking the 33" will bring it down a little.

neliconcept · 08-29-2007, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotaman

It's back together. I took it for a test drive tonight. Seems to run a little better. No check engine light as or right now.

I need to order a plug for the manual ECU. I ordered the wrong one, so I need to get the right one so I can put the dash back together and get the A/C charged.

I was going to get a body lift so I can get the hood back on but I've decided a hood scoop would look more pimp. I just have to find one I like.

I got some brand new 33" for it to.

What's the normal cruise RPM for the 3.4 at like 70 miles per hour? I'm just a little over 3000 RPM's at 70with 31" tires. That seems high so I'm thinking the 33" will bring it down a little.

with mine i run at 2400 i think around 70? so about 2600 if i had stock tires.

wait.... no
2200 at 70, so it would be more like 2400 to 2500 with stock tires.

i run at 1900 at 60mph

Rock Slide · 08-29-2007, 07:40 AM

Granted I have a lift, TJM and rack on my '02, but I'm still running my stock 265/70/16s until they wear out.

Here's my current numbers:

70mph = 2150 rpms
75mph = 2350 rpms
80mph = 2550 rpms

hope that helps.

yotaman · 08-29-2007, 07:51 AM

Thanks guys,

I'm thinking I have 4.56 gears so that's putting me up there. I'm going to see if I can find a 4.30 e-locker and put it in the rear, that'll bring them down some more. I'm planning to put a lot of highway miles on it so I'm thinking 2400 would be a good number. What do you guys think.

Rock Slide · 08-29-2007, 08:56 AM

I'd put the 33's on and see how the engine responds before I do any gear changing (then again, I'm sure you plan on doing that anyway). AFAIK, 4.56s and 33's are the perfect match.

You're fortunate...larger tires can actually help your situation

. Most have to regear b/c of larger tires. Sounds like you're just the opposite.

Keep us updated!

thefallman · 08-29-2007, 09:29 AM

shoot i have a 95 Tacoma 5spd harness floating around somewhere.

oh btw i 31's currently. When had my 33's on GEEZE talk about HORRID mileage. i believe y truck has 4.56's at least thats what it was supposed to have. 4.88's didnt come stock till 92'

08-23-2007, 03:48 PM	#79 (permalink)
DH6twinotter Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 1,676	Really nice looking swap! Wish I had the know how for that kind of thing. 1uz Celica...wow. That would be awesome! __________________ ------------------------------------------------ 1990 4Runner: SR5, 2wd, 3.90 rear, 3VZ-E, auto. 15x8 MT classic II rims, 31x10.50 Bridgestone Desert Duellers ($50!), Cobra CB, 3' firestick Planned stuff: Pre-runner light bar with Hella 500s, small lift Stuff I'd do if I went crazy: SAS, 7mgte or 1UZ swap, and as much offroad goodies as $$ will allow.

08-23-2007, 09:00 PM	#81 (permalink)
SAS'dToy Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Granite Falls, NC Posts: 341	I know someone who has a 3.4 for an automatic...pm me an offer, you know what I got in it __________________ my build-up here UNBREAKABLE FAB---Our rigs look better on their back than your girl does! www.UNBREAKABLEFAB.com

08-23-2007, 09:32 PM	#82 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	the only 2 parts i bought from ORS was the crossover and battery tray. Crossover because everyone i talked to said it would cost more to have them fab it and i didnt have the time to do it myself. plus there's is really very nice and well put together. the battery tray because i wasnt any extra shipping and i didnt want to have to screw with that cause i got myself into a real time crunch at the end of the swap i was moving out of state and was already 2 weeks late. __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

08-24-2007, 09:54 AM	#85 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	hey been doing research on the Auto transmission issue for our trucks. Look into the A343F it comes in the LX450 and Landcruisers you want the 95 to 97 i believe it still has a right side drop too im going to find out today. ill post what i find and hopefully have some pics too. __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

08-24-2007, 03:33 PM	#87 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	ill post pics tonight but yes right side drop but the rear output is also dropped to the right side. __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

08-19-2007, 01:11 PM	#77 (permalink)
Dante82 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2	Thanks for all this info. I have a question about what did you use for the clutch? I heard that the flywheel for both the 3.0 and 3.4 are the same. Can you use the 3.0 clutch also? And what about the t.o bearing and pilot bearing? Thanks

08-24-2007, 05:06 PM	#88 (permalink)
DH6twinotter Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 1,676	Is the A343F's tcase full-time with a lockable center diff, or am I thinking of something else? Are there any pros or cons to this other than a bit more wear and tear on the front? Greg, I'll keep an eye out for celicas. __________________ ------------------------------------------------ 1990 4Runner: SR5, 2wd, 3.90 rear, 3VZ-E, auto. 15x8 MT classic II rims, 31x10.50 Bridgestone Desert Duellers ($50!), Cobra CB, 3' firestick Planned stuff: Pre-runner light bar with Hella 500s, small lift Stuff I'd do if I went crazy: SAS, 7mgte or 1UZ swap, and as much offroad goodies as $$ will allow.

08-27-2007, 05:59 PM	#90 (permalink)
DH6twinotter Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Charlotte, North Carolina Posts: 1,676	Wow...good to know! I find it amazing how some folks on this forum can find parts from one engine or make and fit it on another. Pretty slick stuff! __________________ ------------------------------------------------ 1990 4Runner: SR5, 2wd, 3.90 rear, 3VZ-E, auto. 15x8 MT classic II rims, 31x10.50 Bridgestone Desert Duellers ($50!), Cobra CB, 3' firestick Planned stuff: Pre-runner light bar with Hella 500s, small lift Stuff I'd do if I went crazy: SAS, 7mgte or 1UZ swap, and as much offroad goodies as $$ will allow.

08-27-2007, 06:06 PM	#91 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	Greg with that AW4 you should beable to just change the bell housing and shorten or lengthen your drivelines __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

08-27-2007, 08:02 PM	#93 (permalink)
Four Runner Banned for being an asshat Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 200	Greg!! Sorry I havn't chimed back in sooner, way busy, as I'm sure you are. Let us know if the overheating's solved, and oh yeah, you would've been drooling today!! Buddy bought a 73 Celica and we've been going around hunting parts. There's a couple yards in Arizona, and a couple out in California, just visited them while there, that have so many parts, as well as rust free panels.... DROOOOOLLLLL...

08-28-2007, 06:46 PM	#94 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,188	I'm having to convert my automatic 3.4 wiring harness into a 3.4 manual harness. Sounds easy enough but it's a pain in the ass. I'm been having odd things happen with the motor lately and I'm thinking it's because the automatic ECU is looking for signals from the automatic and it's not getting it. So I've redone all the wires and plugs so I can use a manual ECU. It wasn't fun. __________________ Greg Last edited by yotaman; 04-25-2009 at 08:10 PM.

08-28-2007, 10:06 PM	#95 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,188	It's back together. I took it for a test drive tonight. Seems to run a little better. No check engine light as or right now. I need to order a plug for the manual ECU. I ordered the wrong one, so I need to get the right one so I can put the dash back together and get the A/C charged. I was going to get a body lift so I can get the hood back on but I've decided a hood scoop would look more pimp. I just have to find one I like. I got some brand new 33" for it to. What's the normal cruise RPM for the 3.4 at like 70 miles per hour? I'm just a little over 3000 RPM's at 70with 31" tires. That seems high so I'm thinking the 33" will bring it down a little. __________________ Greg

08-29-2007, 07:40 AM	#97 (permalink)
Rock Slide Contributing Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: B'ham, AL... 2002 4Runner Sport 4WD Posts: 2,045	Granted I have a lift, TJM and rack on my '02, but I'm still running my stock 265/70/16s until they wear out. Here's my current numbers: 70mph = 2150 rpms 75mph = 2350 rpms 80mph = 2550 rpms hope that helps. __________________ 2002 4Runner Sport 4WD My 4Runner Profile Accessories: SS 7.1 Lift Kit, WabFab 1" BL, TJM T15, Stubb Sliders, FX/TSX HID Projector Retrofit, 1st Gen Rollbar, Tundra Brake Upgrade, Hilux Surf Field Monitor, TRD Ivan Stewart Wheels, Nitto TG 265/75s, WeatherTechs, Hella HID 4000s, LED Tail Lights, JBL Speakers Mods: Disabled DRLs, Disabled Keyless Entry Chirp, Disabled VTRAC/VSC/ABS, Fog Light Mod, Air Elbow Mod & Rear Diff Breather Mod *"Why fix a Jeep, when you can drive a Toyota?"*

08-29-2007, 07:51 AM	#98 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,188	Thanks guys, I'm thinking I have 4.56 gears so that's putting me up there. I'm going to see if I can find a 4.30 e-locker and put it in the rear, that'll bring them down some more. I'm planning to put a lot of highway miles on it so I'm thinking 2400 would be a good number. What do you guys think. __________________ Greg

08-29-2007, 08:56 AM	#99 (permalink)
Rock Slide Contributing Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: B'ham, AL... 2002 4Runner Sport 4WD Posts: 2,045	I'd put the 33's on and see how the engine responds before I do any gear changing (then again, I'm sure you plan on doing that anyway). AFAIK, 4.56s and 33's are the perfect match. You're fortunate...larger tires can actually help your situation . Most have to regear b/c of larger tires. Sounds like you're just the opposite. Keep us updated! __________________ 2002 4Runner Sport 4WD My 4Runner Profile Accessories: SS 7.1 Lift Kit, WabFab 1" BL, TJM T15, Stubb Sliders, FX/TSX HID Projector Retrofit, 1st Gen Rollbar, Tundra Brake Upgrade, Hilux Surf Field Monitor, TRD Ivan Stewart Wheels, Nitto TG 265/75s, WeatherTechs, Hella HID 4000s, LED Tail Lights, JBL Speakers Mods: Disabled DRLs, Disabled Keyless Entry Chirp, Disabled VTRAC/VSC/ABS, Fog Light Mod, Air Elbow Mod & Rear Diff Breather Mod *"Why fix a Jeep, when you can drive a Toyota?"*

08-29-2007, 09:29 AM	#100 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	shoot i have a 95 Tacoma 5spd harness floating around somewhere. oh btw i 31's currently. When had my 33's on GEEZE talk about HORRID mileage. i believe y truck has 4.56's at least thats what it was supposed to have. 4.88's didnt come stock till 92' __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think) Last edited by thefallman; 08-29-2007 at 09:33 AM.

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