Project: 85 5VZ-FE 4Runner - Page 2

ORS · 11-19-2007, 05:42 PM

Our fabricator was pretty excited about the trick tailpipe exit. The customer may be adding an aftermarket bumper soon and didn’t want the tailpipe hanging very low at that point. We fixed that problem by exiting the exhaust through the plastic valance thingy.

Here is the initial rough cut.

Here the system after welding, before paint (high-temp spray paint).

Here is the finished product, sorry for the blurry pic.....

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ocdropzone · 11-20-2007, 02:33 PM

I hope the owner is having you swap out those rear double stacked blocks..

Just curious if you think something like this might be possible in a 1st Gen truck...Work is outstanding...

ORS · 11-20-2007, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdropzone

I hope the owner is having you swap out those rear double stacked blocks..

Funny you should mention, we are talking about "stage 2" of this build right now w/ the customer. He is looking at Alcan's, LT shocks & mounts, bumps, etc. He may do this work himself, maybe here, but soon either way.

He bought the truck as is to build, it should be a sweet rig when complete!

ORS · 11-20-2007, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocdropzone

Just curious if you think something like this might be possible in a 1st Gen truck...Work is outstanding...

Thanks!

We have sold a decent amount of parts to customers installing the 3.4L into a 79-83. Most of our parts can be used in this application, certainly give us a call or email if interested and we can go over in more detail.

ORS · 11-21-2007, 05:49 PM

We started installing the under-hood components. We drilled holes and mounted the 3.4L igninter.

We installed the 90-95 model 3.0L V6 radiator. These are nice because they bolt directly up and provide enough cooling even for AZ w/ A/C. The fan and pulleys were installed. We will be trimming the matching radiator shroud to fit the larger 3.4L fan.

For the A/C we acquired lines/hoses, and the compressor fitting “bulkhead” from a 2nd gen 4Runner. After swapping the fitting bulkhead on the 3.4L compressor for the ’93 bulkhead we were able to connect the lines directly to the vehicle and the A/C hoses directly to the compressor..
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We installed the ORS heater hoses with only a little trimming. Next we mounted the EVAP electrical parts (3). These will be plumbed soon.

ORS · 11-21-2007, 05:50 PM

As a side note, we have developed a new product for these swaps. As many may know, the '00 and newer versions of the 3.4L require a hole be drilled into the block to accept the dipstick tube during a swap like this.

We have drilled many of these and don't enjoy how tedious it can be. We developed a drill guide to assist this operation. Simply bolt it on and drill. Truly, worth it's weight in gold if you drilled these before......

We'll have more info and pricing next week.

mt_goat · 11-21-2007, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORS

As a side note, we have developed a new product for these swaps. As many may know, the '00 and newer versions of the 3.4L require a hole be drilled into the block to accept the dipstick tube during a swap like this.

We have drilled many of these and don't enjoy how tedious it can be. We developed a drill guide to assist this operation. Simply bolt it on and drill. Truly, worth it's weight in gold if you drilled these before......

We'll have more info and pricing next week.

Great idea!

ORS · 12-11-2007, 02:23 PM

MORE PLUMBING
Since this truck was going to see off-road and big tires we decided to run a small transmission cooler as the P/S cooler. We also decided to run an auxiliary transmission cooler for the same reasons. The only place we found suitable to mount these was between the condenser and the radiator. We first mounted them with zip ties for mocking up. Once we start the truck and everything is bled we’ll mount them with the handy radiator ties that the coolers come with and re-install the A/C condenser.

We had to cut holes in the body on each side to run the hoses back to the engine bay. You never think of this stuff when it would be the easiest (before painting)………………

As you can see we went to great lengths to properly route and shield these hoses to prevent any premature problems.

From there we routed the trans fluid from the transmission fluid lines through the radiator trans cooler and aux. cooler. We also installed the ORS high pressure power steering hose and return hoses. We plumbed the P/S cooler on the return side. We use 3/8” oil cooler hose (cut to length) for our transmission cooler hose and P/S return hose. This is also included in our kits. We carefully shielded and routed all these hoses, it was quite and ordeal but worth the trouble savings down the road.

Next came the fuel hoses. We normally sell a fuel hose extension with our kits that mates the 3.4L fuel hose to the frame high-pressure side. 4cyl trucks require the installation of a fuel filter, the 3.0L’s don’t. We normally flare the fuel lines near the tank and install a 3.0L filter. We thought we’d try something different this time. We tried out a large racing fuel filter. The nice part is that it fits the ORS fuel hose fittings. It’s also easy to service and simpler to install. It’s also pretty huge……..

ORS · 12-19-2007, 06:15 PM

INTAKE AND FINISH WORK
This customer is interested in a snorkel down the road. Although something would have to be retro-fitted, the best starting place is the stock intake box. The donor intake box had a crack in it from the rollover. We decided to repair it using our plastic welder. It went very smooth.

These stock 3.4L intake boxes fit but the mounts don’t line up with anything useful. The lower mount can be left in place. We drilled a hole to accommodate this one. The other 2 mounts were removed and re-welded (oh yeah..) to a useful place. Now the intake mounts quite nicely.

We have everything plumbed, wired, routed, mounted, etc. We filled the fluids and turned the key. It wouldn’t start. After some thinking, the boss’ wife asked if it was out of gas…… It was. We wish we could say this was the first time this happened in a swap. After some fuel, it fired right up and ran great.

Next we’ll be cutting/scooping the hood and testing everything out!

mt_goat · 12-21-2007, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORS

We have everything plumbed, wired, routed, mounted, etc. We filled the fluids and turned the key. It wouldn’t start. After some thinking, the boss’ wife asked if it was out of gas…… It was. We wish we could say this was the first time this happened in a swap. After some fuel, it fired right up and ran great.

LOL, that's funny. Reminds me of the movie Slingblade.

wormhole · 12-21-2007, 08:34 PM

Want to swap the 4.0 v6 into my 96 4runner next

?

Just kidding. I'm always impressed by the guys that can do this. My hat goes off to you guys for a great build.

cgeorge · 12-29-2007, 12:13 PM

man, I wish I had the resources to do something like this. It looks like a blast!

ORS · 02-28-2008, 07:59 AM

We have been very busy here at the shop and are finally finding time to finish these updates. The hood cutting went well. We simply mask/shield the engine, install the hood and slowly trim until everything clears. It’s a good idea to make the hole as small as possible to avoid having to use an enormous hood scoop. With this body style (’84-’89) there is usually a little more trimming necessary than with the next generation body style.

We wanted to make the shifters look a little nicer. The original shifter console wasn’t even close to fitting the newer shifter assembly. We purchased a shifter console from an ’01 Tacoma (yes, we opted for the cool cup holder). This console required that 3 of 5 mounts be fabricated but was worth the time. If they only offered the original brown for interiors………

The truck has been driving around Colorado for a couple of months now; without problem. The ability to meet and exceed the speed limit up our Colorado mountain passes is certainly a new thing for this 4Runner……

We are already arranging for Rob to return for a long travel suspension and upgraded axles/differentials………….

yotasavg · 02-28-2008, 08:34 AM

so nice.

mt_goat · 07-23-2008, 12:09 PM

Bump to top because I had a hard time finding this thread.

cam01 · 07-27-2008, 12:08 PM

Did this 3.4 come from a 2wd? Just curious about the hose routing for the evap system plumbing and how you did away with some of the VSV's without throwing up codes.

ORS · 07-28-2008, 08:29 AM

The motor was a 4wd one... I will find out more info on the swap for you though, because that was before my time here.

~Una

cam01 · 07-28-2008, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ORS

The motor was a 4wd one... I will find out more info on the swap for you though, because that was before my time here.

~Una

That would be much appreciated if you could, even some hi-res pics of the engine bays of a few swaps that could be zoomed in on to see vac hose routing. I'm not finding a whole lot of info online on what needs to be kept working etc. I'd like to run with no codes and with my 96 3.4 I think thats going to mean all the VSV's and pressure switches have to stay put although I lke the cleanliness of the engine bay with the charcoal cannister from the 88.

ORS · 07-29-2008, 07:53 AM

If you PM me your e-mail address I can send you some more specific information.

Thanks Cam01!

cam01 · 07-29-2008, 04:43 PM

PM'd, thank you, I appreciate any info you're able to share.

LIVES4CRAWLIN91 · 08-31-2009, 08:21 PM

awesome swap, are you guys still in business. reason being is I am looking to do a 3.4 swap in an 85 4runner myself so ya. and if i could get more information on special details i'd really appreciate it

olharleyman · 08-31-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LIVES4CRAWLIN91

awesome swap, are you guys still in business. reason being is I am looking to do a 3.4 swap in an 85 4runner myself so ya. and if i could get more information on special details i'd really appreciate it

They closed there doors December 08 :>( but I believe there are instructions on line if not I have a copy and can fax them to you but they are not year specific

11-20-2007, 02:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,642	I hope the owner is having you swap out those rear double stacked blocks.. Just curious if you think something like this might be possible in a 1st Gen truck...Work is outstanding... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

11-21-2007, 05:49 PM	#30 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 176	We started installing the under-hood components. We drilled holes and mounted the 3.4L igninter. We installed the 90-95 model 3.0L V6 radiator. These are nice because they bolt directly up and provide enough cooling even for AZ w/ A/C. The fan and pulleys were installed. We will be trimming the matching radiator shroud to fit the larger 3.4L fan. For the A/C we acquired lines/hoses, and the compressor fitting “bulkhead” from a 2nd gen 4Runner. After swapping the fitting bulkhead on the 3.4L compressor for the ’93 bulkhead we were able to connect the lines directly to the vehicle and the A/C hoses directly to the compressor.. . We installed the ORS heater hoses with only a little trimming. Next we mounted the EVAP electrical parts (3). These will be plumbed soon. __________________ Off Road Solutions Arvada, CO 303-278-6267 www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

11-21-2007, 05:50 PM	#31 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 176	As a side note, we have developed a new product for these swaps. As many may know, the '00 and newer versions of the 3.4L require a hole be drilled into the block to accept the dipstick tube during a swap like this. We have drilled many of these and don't enjoy how tedious it can be. We developed a drill guide to assist this operation. Simply bolt it on and drill. Truly, worth it's weight in gold if you drilled these before...... We'll have more info and pricing next week. __________________ Off Road Solutions Arvada, CO 303-278-6267 www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

12-11-2007, 02:23 PM	#33 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 176	MORE PLUMBING Since this truck was going to see off-road and big tires we decided to run a small transmission cooler as the P/S cooler. We also decided to run an auxiliary transmission cooler for the same reasons. The only place we found suitable to mount these was between the condenser and the radiator. We first mounted them with zip ties for mocking up. Once we start the truck and everything is bled we’ll mount them with the handy radiator ties that the coolers come with and re-install the A/C condenser. We had to cut holes in the body on each side to run the hoses back to the engine bay. You never think of this stuff when it would be the easiest (before painting)……………… As you can see we went to great lengths to properly route and shield these hoses to prevent any premature problems. From there we routed the trans fluid from the transmission fluid lines through the radiator trans cooler and aux. cooler. We also installed the ORS high pressure power steering hose and return hoses. We plumbed the P/S cooler on the return side. We use 3/8” oil cooler hose (cut to length) for our transmission cooler hose and P/S return hose. This is also included in our kits. We carefully shielded and routed all these hoses, it was quite and ordeal but worth the trouble savings down the road. Next came the fuel hoses. We normally sell a fuel hose extension with our kits that mates the 3.4L fuel hose to the frame high-pressure side. 4cyl trucks require the installation of a fuel filter, the 3.0L’s don’t. We normally flare the fuel lines near the tank and install a 3.0L filter. We thought we’d try something different this time. We tried out a large racing fuel filter. The nice part is that it fits the ORS fuel hose fittings. It’s also easy to service and simpler to install. It’s also pretty huge…….. __________________ Off Road Solutions Arvada, CO 303-278-6267 www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

12-19-2007, 06:15 PM	#34 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 176	INTAKE AND FINISH WORK This customer is interested in a snorkel down the road. Although something would have to be retro-fitted, the best starting place is the stock intake box. The donor intake box had a crack in it from the rollover. We decided to repair it using our plastic welder. It went very smooth. These stock 3.4L intake boxes fit but the mounts don’t line up with anything useful. The lower mount can be left in place. We drilled a hole to accommodate this one. The other 2 mounts were removed and re-welded (oh yeah..) to a useful place. Now the intake mounts quite nicely. We have everything plumbed, wired, routed, mounted, etc. We filled the fluids and turned the key. It wouldn’t start. After some thinking, the boss’ wife asked if it was out of gas…… It was. We wish we could say this was the first time this happened in a swap. After some fuel, it fired right up and ran great. Next we’ll be cutting/scooping the hood and testing everything out! __________________ Off Road Solutions Arvada, CO 303-278-6267 www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

12-21-2007, 08:34 PM	#36 (permalink)
wormhole Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 1,521	Want to swap the 4.0 v6 into my 96 4runner next ? Just kidding. I'm always impressed by the guys that can do this. My hat goes off to you guys for a great build. __________________ 2000 Toyota 4runner auto, 4x4, elocker, budbuilt skid, Sonoran Steel 7.2, 265/75/16 Yokohoma Geolanders AT-S Just call me "T"

12-29-2007, 12:13 PM	#37 (permalink)
cgeorge Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 113	man, I wish I had the resources to do something like this. It looks like a blast! __________________ 1990 Pickup Base 2WD 22R - stock 2000 4Runner SR5 V6 4x4 - Stock Drivetrain for now. SOLD!!!

02-28-2008, 07:59 AM	#38 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 176	We have been very busy here at the shop and are finally finding time to finish these updates. The hood cutting went well. We simply mask/shield the engine, install the hood and slowly trim until everything clears. It’s a good idea to make the hole as small as possible to avoid having to use an enormous hood scoop. With this body style (’84-’89) there is usually a little more trimming necessary than with the next generation body style. We wanted to make the shifters look a little nicer. The original shifter console wasn’t even close to fitting the newer shifter assembly. We purchased a shifter console from an ’01 Tacoma (yes, we opted for the cool cup holder). This console required that 3 of 5 mounts be fabricated but was worth the time. If they only offered the original brown for interiors……… The truck has been driving around Colorado for a couple of months now; without problem. The ability to meet and exceed the speed limit up our Colorado mountain passes is certainly a new thing for this 4Runner…… We are already arranging for Rob to return for a long travel suspension and upgraded axles/differentials…………. __________________ Off Road Solutions Arvada, CO 303-278-6267 www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

02-28-2008, 08:34 AM	#39 (permalink)
yotasavg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chico Republic, NOR*CAL Posts: 1,625	so nice. __________________ -Andrew 94 4Runner 3.0 Auto. I got mods Now Back in Action!

07-23-2008, 12:09 PM	#40 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,863	Bump to top because I had a hard time finding this thread. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

07-27-2008, 12:08 PM	#41 (permalink)
cam01 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 14	Did this 3.4 come from a 2wd? Just curious about the hose routing for the evap system plumbing and how you did away with some of the VSV's without throwing up codes.

07-28-2008, 08:29 AM	#42 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 176	The motor was a 4wd one... I will find out more info on the swap for you though, because that was before my time here. ~Una __________________ Off Road Solutions Arvada, CO 303-278-6267 www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

07-29-2008, 07:53 AM	#44 (permalink)
ORS Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 176	If you PM me your e-mail address I can send you some more specific information. Thanks Cam01! __________________ Off Road Solutions Arvada, CO 303-278-6267 www.offroadsolutions.com Offering offroad products, engine conversions & custom fab work for your Toyota (& much more...)

07-29-2008, 04:43 PM	#45 (permalink)
cam01 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Calgary Alberta Posts: 14	PM'd, thank you, I appreciate any info you're able to share.

08-31-2009, 08:21 PM	#46 (permalink)
LIVES4CRAWLIN91 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Aztec / Farmington, NM Posts: 43	awesome swap, are you guys still in business. reason being is I am looking to do a 3.4 swap in an 85 4runner myself so ya. and if i could get more information on special details i'd really appreciate it

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