My 87 22r to 3.4 swap - Page 2

toy power · 07-25-2008, 02:08 PM

I am not sure about the threads for your fuel fitting.. but i do know that the nipple in the second pic is a drain for the water jacket. that bolt above it is the plug. unless it is in the way of your motor mount, it does not need to be altered.

mt_goat · 07-25-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by G-off

So I got the new water pump, thermostat, timing belt, and oil pressure gauge on yesterday. All went well there.

Couple questions, first of all does anybody know what size threads this fuel pickup is? I just want to be able to attach a piece of 5/16" fuel hose to it. Or if anybody knows of fitting I can use, that would be great.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../34pics001.jpg

Also where does this port go to? And can I just plug it? Its on the passenger side block.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../34pics003.jpg

That looks like the high pressure fuel line, be careful you don't want to attach low pressure hose there.

That port is the block coolant drain. I cut the spout off to make room for the engine mount. It will still drain without the little spout sticking out but you're just not able to attach a hose to it for catching the coolant.

G-off · 07-25-2008, 03:05 PM

Yeah, I have some 5/16 flexible EFI fuel line I want to attach to that pickup line. Just need a fitting for it. And then I have the 1/4" return which I will also run back to the fuel cell.

Thats kinda what I thought port was for. And it is in the way of the motor mount so I guess Ill trim it up.

Thanks!

jasond · 07-25-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by G-off

....Couple questions, first of all does anybody know what size threads this fuel pickup is?

The threads on that fuel fitting are 14mm X 1.50 thread pitch.

G-off · 08-08-2008, 03:03 PM

Put the motor and trans in today to check clearances:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ineaug8001.jpg

Im using the stock exhaust crossover since I don't have the gas tank or parking brake anymore. But I also had to cut the front diff mount off since it was in the way.

As you can see its super close to the torsion bar though. Im going to take it off tomorrow as well as cut the mounts off. I'll be running a long travel kit with coilovers so I don't need them anyways. Plus Ill be able to keep the exhaust higher up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ineaug8004.jpg

Here is the ORS motor mount:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ineaug8002.jpg

I need to trim about .125" off the passenger mount. Otherwise no issues there.

Everything else looks pretty good. The exhaust is real close to the brake lines, I may do new lines at some point. Probably just wrap the down pipe and build a heat shiled temporarily.

G-off · 08-08-2008, 03:05 PM

Bah...sorry about the blurry pics...

G-off · 08-24-2008, 12:43 PM

Getting there! Engine and trans are finally fully mounted:

Also picked up a radiator from a 3.0 this week. Probably going to do an electric fan, not sure what one though.

G-off · 08-24-2008, 12:46 PM

And the interior, which is nothing more than a jungle jym of tubes, the ORS stand alone harness, and a steering wheel...

I'll be working on the electrical again today.

M@ · 08-25-2008, 03:32 PM

I like it. I see alot of wires with tape on the end :O

G-off · 08-26-2008, 12:21 AM

Yeah, the majority of it is for gauges and lights/switches. There's really not a lot to connect actually. Where to mount all the fuse blocks and relays is my biggest problem right now...

G-off · 09-07-2008, 03:33 PM

Darn close to being able to fire it. Need rad hoses, fan, batt cable, and a few misc things and I should be good.

Couple questions, first, since I am not running a heater right now should I plug the inlet and outlet on the back of the motor? Or loop it together with a piece of hose?

And on the PS return hose, can I just run a piece of rubber hose from the pump to the box? I seem to recall them having like a little oil cooler maybe?

mt_goat · 09-07-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by G-off

And on the PS return hose, can I just run a piece of rubber hose from the pump to the box? I seem to recall them having like a little oil cooler maybe?

From the pump to the box needs to be a high pressure hose. The return is low pressure and that's where you can put a cooler if you want. Edit: I think that's what you meant now that I re-read it. I just used ATF cooler hose on the return line. I'm also using a Hayden ATF cooler.

I can't see that it matters on the heat hose question. If it turns out that you need more cooling you can loop that heater hose through an oil cooler and lower your coolant temps (just like running the heater).

G-off · 09-07-2008, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mt_goat

From the pump to the box needs to be a high pressure hose. The return is low pressure and that's where you can put a cooler if you want. Edit: I think that's what you meant now that I re-read it. I just used ATF cooler hose on the return line. I'm also using a Hayden ATF cooler.

I can't see that it matters on the heat hose question. If it turns out that you need more cooling you can loop that heater hose through an oil cooler and lower your coolant temps (just like running the heater).

Yeah I already have a high pressure SS feed hose for the PS pump. I think I'll go ahead and get a cooler for the pump, better safe than sorry.

And I was planning on getting a Mojave type heater at some point, maybe I'll just order them both from Summit and be done with it.

Thanks!

mt_goat · 09-08-2008, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by G-off

I think I'll go ahead and get a cooler for the pump, better safe than sorry.

Yeah, as I understand it the 3.4 PS pump is higher pressure than the older models because the rack and pinion steering needs higher pressure. If you hang out with the Taco guys you'll find a lot of them burn up the pumps. I don't know if that transfers over to the gear box steering we have or not, but it can't hurt to have a cooler. Our trucks did have that little hard line cooler. I just happened to have an extra tranny cooler, so I left it in place for the PS.

G-off · 09-28-2008, 07:46 PM

Been slowly tinkering away at it over the last couple weeks.

Got the radiator mounted, 3.0 shroud won't work so I guess I will just get an electric fan. Maybe a Taurus fan. Are their any other decent fans that fit the 3.0 radiators?

I also picked up a used Total Chaos Uniball kit so I ripped the old front end off. I'll be running a dual rate 10" Sway-a-way coil over and SAW bumpstops.

Also built a simple exhaust. Im using an o2 simulator so I ditched the cat completely.

Got most of the electronics and gauges mounted, minus the fuse blocks.

About all I need to do now is plumb the EVAP lines. Need to pick up a charcoal canister from the junkyard tomorrow. Then try and fire it, hopefully...

G-off · 09-28-2008, 08:12 PM

Oh yeah, can't remember where these two plugs go, I think the grey goes to the AC compressor? Not sure about the other one...

jasond · 09-28-2008, 08:35 PM

One is the a/c compressor, the other is the signal to the ecu to idle up for the p/s pump pressure. I never did put the p/s pump pressure switch on mine, it runs fine w/o it.

G-off · 09-28-2008, 10:08 PM

Thats right! I totally blanked on that. I'll hust leave them as is. Thanks buddy!

G-off · 10-20-2008, 02:47 PM

Well I finally tried to start the truck with no avail. Turns over no problem, the computer was working, but no fuel getting to the motor. Took the line off and it was bone dry, then hooked up a battery directly to the pump which comes on but won't pick up any fuel. I figured fuel delivery would be the biggest problem and so far its living up to that.

Its a E2000 Bronco fuel pump hooked up to my Jaz 32 gallon cell. The pickup tube is on the top of the cell with a cut piece of hose down to the bottom of the cell. The line exits out the cell goes straight down under the cab to a filter than the pump, probably about 3 feet of line to the pump. The old stock 22r mechanical pump did fine with the same cell, but this EFI pump won't do it. I guess its not creating enough of a siphon to get the fuel started...I'll fiddle around with it more this week.

What it looks like now at least:

And yes, the igniter came apart so Im getting a new one of those too...

G-off · 10-20-2008, 02:56 PM

Oh yeah, Im also selling my Total Chaos Uniball kit. I posted a thread in the marketplace section...

07-25-2008, 03:05 PM	#28 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Yeah, I have some 5/16 flexible EFI fuel line I want to attach to that pickup line. Just need a fitting for it. And then I have the 1/4" return which I will also run back to the fuel cell. Thats kinda what I thought port was for. And it is in the way of the motor mount so I guess Ill trim it up. Thanks! __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

08-08-2008, 03:03 PM	#30 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Put the motor and trans in today to check clearances: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ineaug8001.jpg Im using the stock exhaust crossover since I don't have the gas tank or parking brake anymore. But I also had to cut the front diff mount off since it was in the way. As you can see its super close to the torsion bar though. Im going to take it off tomorrow as well as cut the mounts off. I'll be running a long travel kit with coilovers so I don't need them anyways. Plus Ill be able to keep the exhaust higher up. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ineaug8004.jpg Here is the ORS motor mount: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...ineaug8002.jpg I need to trim about .125" off the passenger mount. Otherwise no issues there. Everything else looks pretty good. The exhaust is real close to the brake lines, I may do new lines at some point. Probably just wrap the down pipe and build a heat shiled temporarily. __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped Last edited by G-off : 08-24-2008 at 12:48 PM.

08-08-2008, 03:05 PM	#31 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Bah...sorry about the blurry pics... __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

08-24-2008, 12:43 PM	#32 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Getting there! Engine and trans are finally fully mounted: Also picked up a radiator from a 3.0 this week. Probably going to do an electric fan, not sure what one though. __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

08-24-2008, 12:46 PM	#33 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	And the interior, which is nothing more than a jungle jym of tubes, the ORS stand alone harness, and a steering wheel... I'll be working on the electrical again today. __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

07-25-2008, 02:08 PM	#26 (permalink)
toy power Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 167	I am not sure about the threads for your fuel fitting.. but i do know that the nipple in the second pic is a drain for the water jacket. that bolt above it is the plug. unless it is in the way of your motor mount, it does not need to be altered.

08-25-2008, 03:32 PM	#34 (permalink)
M@ Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 39	I like it. I see alot of wires with tape on the end :O

08-26-2008, 12:21 AM	#35 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Yeah, the majority of it is for gauges and lights/switches. There's really not a lot to connect actually. Where to mount all the fuse blocks and relays is my biggest problem right now... __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

09-07-2008, 03:33 PM	#36 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Darn close to being able to fire it. Need rad hoses, fan, batt cable, and a few misc things and I should be good. Couple questions, first, since I am not running a heater right now should I plug the inlet and outlet on the back of the motor? Or loop it together with a piece of hose? And on the PS return hose, can I just run a piece of rubber hose from the pump to the box? I seem to recall them having like a little oil cooler maybe? __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

09-28-2008, 07:46 PM	#40 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Been slowly tinkering away at it over the last couple weeks. Got the radiator mounted, 3.0 shroud won't work so I guess I will just get an electric fan. Maybe a Taurus fan. Are their any other decent fans that fit the 3.0 radiators? I also picked up a used Total Chaos Uniball kit so I ripped the old front end off. I'll be running a dual rate 10" Sway-a-way coil over and SAW bumpstops. Also built a simple exhaust. Im using an o2 simulator so I ditched the cat completely. Got most of the electronics and gauges mounted, minus the fuse blocks. About all I need to do now is plumb the EVAP lines. Need to pick up a charcoal canister from the junkyard tomorrow. Then try and fire it, hopefully... __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

09-28-2008, 08:12 PM	#41 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Oh yeah, can't remember where these two plugs go, I think the grey goes to the AC compressor? Not sure about the other one... __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

09-28-2008, 08:35 PM	#42 (permalink)
jasond Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 192	One is the a/c compressor, the other is the signal to the ecu to idle up for the p/s pump pressure. I never did put the p/s pump pressure switch on mine, it runs fine w/o it.

09-28-2008, 10:08 PM	#43 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Thats right! I totally blanked on that. I'll hust leave them as is. Thanks buddy! __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

10-20-2008, 02:47 PM	#44 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Well I finally tried to start the truck with no avail. Turns over no problem, the computer was working, but no fuel getting to the motor. Took the line off and it was bone dry, then hooked up a battery directly to the pump which comes on but won't pick up any fuel. I figured fuel delivery would be the biggest problem and so far its living up to that. Its a E2000 Bronco fuel pump hooked up to my Jaz 32 gallon cell. The pickup tube is on the top of the cell with a cut piece of hose down to the bottom of the cell. The line exits out the cell goes straight down under the cab to a filter than the pump, probably about 3 feet of line to the pump. The old stock 22r mechanical pump did fine with the same cell, but this EFI pump won't do it. I guess its not creating enough of a siphon to get the fuel started...I'll fiddle around with it more this week. What it looks like now at least: And yes, the igniter came apart so Im getting a new one of those too... __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped

10-20-2008, 02:56 PM	#45 (permalink)
G-off Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Prescott, AZ Posts: 61	Oh yeah, Im also selling my Total Chaos Uniball kit. I posted a thread in the marketplace section... __________________ 95 V6 Tacoma - Daily Driver 87 Desert Truck- 5VZFE swapped