Finally venturing into my 3.4 swap (dial up warning)

breknraj · 08-29-2006, 08:36 PM

Well, I finally found a donor truck ('02 Taco TRD, 67K miles), and it will be here on Thursday or Friday. So I started dismantling the engine bay of my '90 SR5.

I'm taking the 3.0 apart as though I were going to rebuild it (which I probably will, later), so I'm labeling hoses and connections for future reference, in conjunction with taking lots of pics for my personal documentation. Thank God for digital cameras for things like this!

I spent this afternoon stripping out most of the stuff along both sides of the engine.

Before:

breknraj · 08-29-2006, 08:38 PM

Continued:

breknraj · 08-29-2006, 08:39 PM

And what I accomplished today:

breknraj · 08-29-2006, 08:43 PM

It sure feels good to get this started! While I doubt that I'll finish before the snow flies (here), I hope I can get it done before the stuff sticks!

I'll be getting the Off Road Solutions full kit, plus their crossover pipe -- heading down next week to give Mike the $ for it! I'm also going to change the timing belt and water pump, as well as getting a new radiator.

As if this wasn't enough, I'm also going to be adding an Arizona Air AC system (my truck never had AC)! Fun stuff ahead!

DeathCougar · 08-29-2006, 09:18 PM

Where did you get the truck from?

breknraj · 08-29-2006, 10:49 PM

I bought mine through Klode auto salvage auctions, a Rocky Mountain region outfit (http://www.klode.com). You might want to check out http://www.ridesafely.com for similar stuff - they do have a northwest depot in Washington, IIRC.

Be warned that our Toys hold their value pretty well, even when they're wrecked!

DeathCougar · 08-29-2006, 11:07 PM

How did you become a buyer? Dont you have to have a business license, or can any average Joe do it?

**Elvota** · 08-29-2006, 11:11 PM

Just subscribing... would really like to do this swap myself in the future.

I lived in Breckenridge for a summer and few winter months. Such a great place. What part of Summit County are you doing the swap?

thefallman · 08-29-2006, 11:17 PM

ill be finishing my swap up next week. then i will be moving to Greater Denver area so if ya have a question or something just ask?? I didnt use their kit personally i think its cheeper sourcing your own stuff.

Pozi · 08-30-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DeathCougar

How did you become a buyer? Dont you have to have a business license, or can any average Joe do it?

Right. When I was looking for a donor engine for my swap I also looked at using ridesafety.com but a business license was needed. My mother-in-law has a license but it needed some type of auto dismantler claus in order to purchase through these companies. However when I was going my research ridesafety.com merely sold second hand through another company (the name escapes me) where they do the bidding and buy on your behalf albeit at a hefty markup.

Anyway. Goodluck with your swap. You are at the right place for specific 3.4L swap questions.

breknraj · 08-30-2006, 09:47 AM

DC - Klode has no problem with private purchases (you're just going to have to pay taxes on the purchase), RideSafely is a bidding service for the private individual, thereby getting around the business license issue.

Elvota - I'm just south of Blue River at 10,500 ft!

Fallman - I'm facing a major time crunch, since snow has already fallen here. I'm hoping that I can finish the project (all outside, BTW) before the snow sticks! For these reasons, plus the feeling that Mike at ORS has the same quality attitude that I have, I feel that it's in my best interests to go with the ORS kit. The time saved in doing the wire traces myself, plus the lack of convenient parts sourcing (the closest NAPA is over 15 miles away - 1 hour round trip, with traffic - and decent salvage yards are 80 to 100 miles), makes the cost worthwhile, to me.

Marc · 08-30-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by breknraj

As if this wasn't enough, I'm also going to be adding an Arizona Air AC system (my truck never had AC)! Fun stuff ahead!

Does the taco engine have an A/C compressor?

If so you might want to let ackits know in case the fittings are different.

breknraj · 08-30-2006, 10:04 AM

Marc - I got the AC kit before the engine died, so I'll cross the compressor problem when the time comes. It's not like I'm going to be in severe need of AC for a few months, now!

Marc · 08-30-2006, 10:29 AM

Ok, you might want to think about making sure the compressor is mounted to the engine before dropping it in. They can be nasty to install.

thefallman · 08-30-2006, 10:38 AM

i hears ya. if i had the money i would have done it that way but no such luck

as far as the ac i mounted mine first before droping in the truck. swaped the piece of the side of the compressor that the hoses mount to with the one from my 3.0 compressor thereby avoiding having to make custom hoses.

breknraj · 08-30-2006, 05:22 PM

Thanks for the heads ups on the A/C, folks!

I had business matters to tend to today, so I only got a little bit done. Drained the oil and coolant, removed the fan and radiator, and labeled more of the engine harness. If I end up selling it, I figure that the labels might help someone else out.

As long as I can make some progress when I have the opportunity, I feel pretty good about it!

Elton · 08-30-2006, 06:29 PM

may i ask how much this costing you

breknraj · 08-30-2006, 09:30 PM

I'm into it for about $5K, right now (not counting the A/C - another $650, but that was already bought and paid for). I hope to recover some of the money by selling whatever else is useful on the Taco. One thing that I plan to do is to remove all of the manual tranny and clutch stuff, as well as the drive shafts to offer up a manual transmission conversion kit for late model 4Rs or Taco Doublecabs that didn't have the option of a manual.

I'm hoping to recover $1,500 or more from the various parts, but time will tell.

Not a cheap prospect, but I like the idea of the better engine, and I also like the fact that I'm re-cycling two dead trucks to make one good one, and minimizing the waste of the one that's left. I wouldn't have decided to do this, had my '90 not been in great shape (other than the engine, of course!)

As it stands, right now, I have plans to use the engine, wheels and e-locker out of the Taco. Other things that I'm contemplating are seeing if I can adapt the keyless entry to work on my truck, and maybe some interior upgrades, if I like what I see. So I think I'll be getting my money's worth out of the Taco! Of course, a lot of this depends one what's left that's good on the Taco, in the first place.

08-29-2006, 08:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	Finally venturing into my 3.4 swap (dial up warning) Well, I finally found a donor truck ('02 Taco TRD, 67K miles), and it will be here on Thursday or Friday. So I started dismantling the engine bay of my '90 SR5. I'm taking the 3.0 apart as though I were going to rebuild it (which I probably will, later), so I'm labeling hoses and connections for future reference, in conjunction with taking lots of pics for my personal documentation. Thank God for digital cameras for things like this! I spent this afternoon stripping out most of the stuff along both sides of the engine. Before: Attached Thumbnails Last edited by breknraj : 08-29-2006 at 08:44 PM.

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breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	Continued: Attached Thumbnails

08-29-2006, 08:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	And what I accomplished today: Attached Thumbnails

08-29-2006, 08:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	It sure feels good to get this started! While I doubt that I'll finish before the snow flies (here), I hope I can get it done before the stuff sticks! I'll be getting the Off Road Solutions full kit, plus their crossover pipe -- heading down next week to give Mike the $ for it! I'm also going to change the timing belt and water pump, as well as getting a new radiator. As if this wasn't enough, I'm also going to be adding an Arizona Air AC system (my truck never had AC)! Fun stuff ahead! Last edited by breknraj : 08-29-2006 at 10:50 PM.

08-29-2006, 10:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	I bought mine through Klode auto salvage auctions, a Rocky Mountain region outfit (http://www.klode.com). You might want to check out http://www.ridesafely.com for similar stuff - they do have a northwest depot in Washington, IIRC. Be warned that our Toys hold their value pretty well, even when they're wrecked! Last edited by breknraj : 08-29-2006 at 10:52 PM.

08-29-2006, 11:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,442	Just subscribing... would really like to do this swap myself in the future. I lived in Breckenridge for a summer and few winter months. Such a great place. What part of Summit County are you doing the swap? __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

08-29-2006, 11:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 482	ill be finishing my swap up next week. then i will be moving to Greater Denver area so if ya have a question or something just ask?? I didnt use their kit personally i think its cheeper sourcing your own stuff. __________________ ~Brian 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Tranny Yep i Changed it. Soon to be Supercharged. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) I sold the HEEP I Havent finished my writeup but till i do heres a link to Mt_Goats write up http://www.yotatech.com/f116/3-4-swap-started-82145/ between him and i and a few others on here we should beable to answer most questions.

08-30-2006, 09:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	DC - Klode has no problem with private purchases (you're just going to have to pay taxes on the purchase), RideSafely is a bidding service for the private individual, thereby getting around the business license issue. Elvota - I'm just south of Blue River at 10,500 ft! Fallman - I'm facing a major time crunch, since snow has already fallen here. I'm hoping that I can finish the project (all outside, BTW) before the snow sticks! For these reasons, plus the feeling that Mike at ORS has the same quality attitude that I have, I feel that it's in my best interests to go with the ORS kit. The time saved in doing the wire traces myself, plus the lack of convenient parts sourcing (the closest NAPA is over 15 miles away - 1 hour round trip, with traffic - and decent salvage yards are 80 to 100 miles), makes the cost worthwhile, to me.

08-30-2006, 10:04 AM	#13 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	Marc - I got the AC kit before the engine died, so I'll cross the compressor problem when the time comes. It's not like I'm going to be in severe need of AC for a few months, now!

08-30-2006, 10:29 AM	#14 (permalink)
Marc Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Posts: 456	Ok, you might want to think about making sure the compressor is mounted to the engine before dropping it in. They can be nasty to install. __________________ '91 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Auto, A/C (self installed) 4.56, 31x10.5x15 Nokian Vatiiva Tires Taurus fan (removed) '90 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Auto, A/C, 4.56 V6 power with V8 fuel mileage I've used Fram oil filters and dino oil in all my stuff for 30 years and never had trouble

08-30-2006, 10:38 AM	#15 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 482	i hears ya. if i had the money i would have done it that way but no such luck as far as the ac i mounted mine first before droping in the truck. swaped the piece of the side of the compressor that the hoses mount to with the one from my 3.0 compressor thereby avoiding having to make custom hoses. __________________ ~Brian 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Tranny Yep i Changed it. Soon to be Supercharged. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) I sold the HEEP I Havent finished my writeup but till i do heres a link to Mt_Goats write up http://www.yotatech.com/f116/3-4-swap-started-82145/ between him and i and a few others on here we should beable to answer most questions.

08-30-2006, 05:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	Thanks for the heads ups on the A/C, folks! I had business matters to tend to today, so I only got a little bit done. Drained the oil and coolant, removed the fan and radiator, and labeled more of the engine harness. If I end up selling it, I figure that the labels might help someone else out. As long as I can make some progress when I have the opportunity, I feel pretty good about it! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by breknraj : 08-30-2006 at 05:38 PM.

08-30-2006, 06:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
Elton Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toledo,Oregon Posts: 9,079	may i ask how much this costing you __________________ My Truck 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods Mom 07 Tundra d-cab limited 5.7L 4x4 auto mom 92 pickup SR5 X-cab 3.0L 5spd 4x4 Papa 89 Pickup SR5 X-cab 4x4 3.0L 5spd/98 4runner SR5 4x4 auto 3.4L R.I.P 91 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0L 5spd Totaled 5/13/06 My Wreck

08-30-2006, 09:30 PM	#18 (permalink)
breknraj Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Summit County, Colorado Posts: 862	I'm into it for about $5K, right now (not counting the A/C - another $650, but that was already bought and paid for). I hope to recover some of the money by selling whatever else is useful on the Taco. One thing that I plan to do is to remove all of the manual tranny and clutch stuff, as well as the drive shafts to offer up a manual transmission conversion kit for late model 4Rs or Taco Doublecabs that didn't have the option of a manual. I'm hoping to recover $1,500 or more from the various parts, but time will tell. Not a cheap prospect, but I like the idea of the better engine, and I also like the fact that I'm re-cycling two dead trucks to make one good one, and minimizing the waste of the one that's left. I wouldn't have decided to do this, had my '90 not been in great shape (other than the engine, of course!) As it stands, right now, I have plans to use the engine, wheels and e-locker out of the Taco. Other things that I'm contemplating are seeing if I can adapt the keyless entry to work on my truck, and maybe some interior upgrades, if I like what I see. So I think I'll be getting my money's worth out of the Taco! Of course, a lot of this depends one what's left that's good on the Taco, in the first place.