3.4 swap started - Page 5

mt_goat · 07-27-2006, 06:09 AM

This was the latest delay, designing and fabbing protection for the motor mounts:

I made one for each side, although the drivers side is the one under tension in forward gears, with dual cases, reverse has potental to rip a rubber mount apart too. (Pics were before I painted with truck bed spray, which should help deaden the chain rattle noises)

I decided to bolt down to the frame rather than welding it down to provide adjustment later. The adjustment seems very important to me with chaining down the mounts, I want some slack to allow the rubber to isolate vibrations, but not too much slack. With the new mounts provided by ORS I figure they will be settling in and squishing down over time. The old ones were squished down about 1/4 inch. The plate will be bolted down with grade 8 washers stacked under it, they can be removed later to tighten the chains or more added to provide more slack. Also the D-ring size can be changed for even more adjustment.

I'm also replacing the bolts from the motor mount bracket into the block. The stock 3.0 bolts were not quite long enough IMHO. Engineering basics say to provide at least 1 1/2 times the diameter of the bolt in thread depth. The stock bolts were just short of that safety factor. Probably fine for the stock 150 hp engine, but I'm going for double that hp. The 3.4 block is tapped for longer bolts, so I bought some longer ones.

By keeping a limit on engine movement I'm also keeping my fingers crossed that I can get away with just a one inch body lift and no hood scoop. I do plan on removing the hood insulation and cutting the hood bracing that's in the way. If not, I think I'll cut a hole in the hood before I add a taller BL.

mt_goat · 07-27-2006, 01:16 PM

While the crank pulley has easy access I did a little more welding to make a SST for holding the crank. I fabbed it up out of scrap steel and used some 3/8" grade 8 bolts with the heads cut off for the pins. 3/8" is a perfect fit for the crank. Tried it out already, 217 ft-lbs didn't budge the crank bolt.

mt_goat · 07-29-2006, 03:59 PM

Got the EGT bung welded on:

Tanto · 07-29-2006, 04:10 PM

All very clean and looking good, Dale.

mt_goat · 08-07-2006, 06:12 PM

Sorry haven't made the time to update much,

The exhaust cross-over got a coat of Very high temp paint:

And a wrapping of header wrap:

The new (hopefully leak free) Marlin V6 adapter coupler is on now:

And the Ultimate Crawler ready to go on:

The crawler is on:

The mechanical speedo sender has to be removed from the crawler to work with my 93 SR5 instrument cluster and the electronic speedo sender from my 3.0 will go in its place (according to Marlin):

**Elvota** · 08-07-2006, 07:38 PM

It is just silly how nice your rig is going to be.

What are your thoughts on header wrap holding in moisture on a trail rig? Any worries?

mt_goat · 08-07-2006, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

It is just silly how nice your rig is going to be.

What are your thoughts on header wrap holding in moisture on a trail rig? Any worries?

Thanks!

Not too worried about moisture on a part that gets so hot. It will evaporate off by just running it a while after a soaking. The VHT paint was to protect from rusting too. Mike @ ORS recommends it for his cross-over and he's done a few of these already. I'm just following his advice.

**Elvota** · 08-07-2006, 08:30 PM

Oh yeah, the paint would help with that.

Keep up the good work and posts. Great source when I do my swap... one day.

Tim_Snapple76 · 08-07-2006, 09:29 PM

wow. super clean, and I wish you the best of luck. Keep us updated. Great pics. Truck of the month whenever you finish 4 sho. Tim

TNRabbit · 08-08-2006, 05:47 AM

Sorry, I came in late on this thread; do you have any pics of the outside of your truck?

Engine looks FANTASTIC!

mt_goat · 08-08-2006, 06:16 AM

Thanks guys!

Here you go TN: http://community.webshots.com/album/399172301OQQGRv

Next projects are sliders and a rear bumper so don't laugh at the chrome nurf bars please.

TNRabbit · 08-08-2006, 06:28 AM

SWEET! Nice job.

1jznatruck · 08-14-2006, 09:48 PM

Very nice looking truck, I've got an 86' 2WD SR5 Turbo with a 1jz-gte in it, signed up because im looking for a 4Runner to put a 5vzfe in it and use it to tow my 86' to the track! Looks great!

mt_goat · 08-15-2006, 06:15 AM

Thanks guys, I dropped the engine in this weekend for some test fitting. The ORS exhaust crossover looks to fit great. The 5VZ air box is a tight fit but I'm going to make it work, the front of the box will be almost touching the windshield washer bottle and the intake of the box is almost touching the interfender. I marked the interfender for a little hole cutting job later, that will have it breathing from inside the fender like the Tacos do, minus the elbow.

1jznatruck · 08-15-2006, 09:10 AM

That should give it quite a bit of pep, what kind of extra power are you expecting out of the supercharger? Like I said I'd like to do a 3.4L swap but I have a extra 7m-gte laying around so I'm just debating between the two. I'd love to hear what you think of the 3.4!

Cebby · 08-15-2006, 09:18 AM

Looks like the hood won't close without a little surgery.

mt_goat · 08-15-2006, 10:36 AM

Yeah Cebby I plan on removing the insulation and cutting the bracing under the hood. If that doesn't do it I'll be looking for that hood scoop. If I'm real close to fitting I may try a couple washers between the hood and hinges just to see what it looks like before I cut the hole. I will have a hard time cutting the hole because I've taken such good care of the paint job for 13 years. :cry:

mt_goat · 08-15-2006, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1jznatruck

That should give it quite a bit of pep, what kind of extra power are you expecting out of the supercharger? Like I said I'd like to do a 3.4L swap but I have a extra 7m-gte laying around so I'm just debating between the two. I'd love to hear what you think of the 3.4!

Not sure yet, but stay tuned.

Tragic Drive · 08-21-2006, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

Thanks, yeah purty until the first mud hole anyway lol.

07-27-2006, 06:09 AM	#101 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,427	3.4 swap with auto transmission started This was the latest delay, designing and fabbing protection for the motor mounts: I made one for each side, although the drivers side is the one under tension in forward gears, with dual cases, reverse has potental to rip a rubber mount apart too. (Pics were before I painted with truck bed spray, which should help deaden the chain rattle noises) I decided to bolt down to the frame rather than welding it down to provide adjustment later. The adjustment seems very important to me with chaining down the mounts, I want some slack to allow the rubber to isolate vibrations, but not too much slack. With the new mounts provided by ORS I figure they will be settling in and squishing down over time. The old ones were squished down about 1/4 inch. The plate will be bolted down with grade 8 washers stacked under it, they can be removed later to tighten the chains or more added to provide more slack. Also the D-ring size can be changed for even more adjustment. I'm also replacing the bolts from the motor mount bracket into the block. The stock 3.0 bolts were not quite long enough IMHO. Engineering basics say to provide at least 1 1/2 times the diameter of the bolt in thread depth. The stock bolts were just short of that safety factor. Probably fine for the stock 150 hp engine, but I'm going for double that hp. The 3.4 block is tapped for longer bolts, so I bought some longer ones. By keeping a limit on engine movement I'm also keeping my fingers crossed that I can get away with just a one inch body lift and no hood scoop. I do plan on removing the hood insulation and cutting the hood bracing that's in the way. If not, I think I'll cut a hole in the hood before I add a taller BL. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Dale "America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war." T. Boone Pickens Check out the plan: http://www.pickensplan.com/index.php and http://www.cngnow.com/EN-US/Pages/default.aspx Last edited by mt_goat : 02-02-2008 at 10:08 AM.

07-27-2006, 01:16 PM	#102 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,427	While the crank pulley has easy access I did a little more welding to make a SST for holding the crank. I fabbed it up out of scrap steel and used some 3/8" grade 8 bolts with the heads cut off for the pins. 3/8" is a perfect fit for the crank. Tried it out already, 217 ft-lbs didn't budge the crank bolt. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Dale "America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war." T. Boone Pickens Check out the plan: http://www.pickensplan.com/index.php and http://www.cngnow.com/EN-US/Pages/default.aspx Last edited by mt_goat : 02-02-2008 at 10:11 AM.

07-29-2006, 03:59 PM	#103 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,427	Got the EGT bung welded on: Attached Thumbnails __________________ Dale "America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war." T. Boone Pickens Check out the plan: http://www.pickensplan.com/index.php and http://www.cngnow.com/EN-US/Pages/default.aspx Last edited by mt_goat : 02-02-2008 at 10:11 AM.

08-07-2006, 06:12 PM	#105 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,427	Sorry haven't made the time to update much, The exhaust cross-over got a coat of Very high temp paint: And a wrapping of header wrap: The new (hopefully leak free) Marlin V6 adapter coupler is on now: And the Ultimate Crawler ready to go on: The crawler is on: The mechanical speedo sender has to be removed from the crawler to work with my 93 SR5 instrument cluster and the electronic speedo sender from my 3.0 will go in its place (according to Marlin): Attached Thumbnails __________________ Dale "America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war." T. Boone Pickens Check out the plan: http://www.pickensplan.com/index.php and http://www.cngnow.com/EN-US/Pages/default.aspx Last edited by mt_goat : 02-02-2008 at 10:17 AM.

08-07-2006, 07:38 PM	#106 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,442	It is just silly how nice your rig is going to be. What are your thoughts on header wrap holding in moisture on a trail rig? Any worries? __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

08-07-2006, 08:30 PM	#108 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,442	Oh yeah, the paint would help with that. Keep up the good work and posts. Great source when I do my swap... one day. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

08-07-2006, 09:29 PM	#109 (permalink)
Tim_Snapple76 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SouthEast Arkansas Posts: 156	wow. super clean, and I wish you the best of luck. Keep us updated. Great pics. Truck of the month whenever you finish 4 sho. Tim

08-08-2006, 05:47 AM	#110 (permalink)
TNRabbit Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TENN Native Stuck in Maryland Posts: 2,013	Sorry, I came in late on this thread; do you have any pics of the outside of your truck? Engine looks FANTASTIC! __________________ TNRabbit Stock '94 DLX XtraCab 4x4 5 spd, Newly Rebuilt 3VZE, 2006 Taco 17" Alloys, 224k miles, AISIN Hub Swap Kenwood Double-DIN Head Unit, 1x 290 watt Kenwood Amp driving 2 Klipsch speakers, 1x Kenwood 1000 watt sub amp driving 2x10" Infinity Perfect 10.1D subs

08-08-2006, 06:16 AM	#111 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,427	Thanks guys! Here you go TN: http://community.webshots.com/album/399172301OQQGRv Next projects are sliders and a rear bumper so don't laugh at the chrome nurf bars please. __________________ Dale "America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war." T. Boone Pickens Check out the plan: http://www.pickensplan.com/index.php and http://www.cngnow.com/EN-US/Pages/default.aspx Last edited by mt_goat : 08-08-2006 at 06:26 AM.

08-08-2006, 06:28 AM	#112 (permalink)
TNRabbit Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TENN Native Stuck in Maryland Posts: 2,013	SWEET! Nice job. __________________ TNRabbit Stock '94 DLX XtraCab 4x4 5 spd, Newly Rebuilt 3VZE, 2006 Taco 17" Alloys, 224k miles, AISIN Hub Swap Kenwood Double-DIN Head Unit, 1x 290 watt Kenwood Amp driving 2 Klipsch speakers, 1x Kenwood 1000 watt sub amp driving 2x10" Infinity Perfect 10.1D subs

08-14-2006, 09:48 PM	#113 (permalink)
1jznatruck Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2	Very nice looking truck, I've got an 86' 2WD SR5 Turbo with a 1jz-gte in it, signed up because im looking for a 4Runner to put a 5vzfe in it and use it to tow my 86' to the track! Looks great!

08-15-2006, 06:15 AM	#114 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,427	Thanks guys, I dropped the engine in this weekend for some test fitting. The ORS exhaust crossover looks to fit great. The 5VZ air box is a tight fit but I'm going to make it work, the front of the box will be almost touching the windshield washer bottle and the intake of the box is almost touching the interfender. I marked the interfender for a little hole cutting job later, that will have it breathing from inside the fender like the Tacos do, minus the elbow. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Dale "America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war." T. Boone Pickens Check out the plan: http://www.pickensplan.com/index.php and http://www.cngnow.com/EN-US/Pages/default.aspx Last edited by mt_goat : 08-15-2006 at 06:22 AM.

08-15-2006, 09:10 AM	#115 (permalink)
1jznatruck Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2	That should give it quite a bit of pep, what kind of extra power are you expecting out of the supercharger? Like I said I'd like to do a 3.4L swap but I have a extra 7m-gte laying around so I'm just debating between the two. I'd love to hear what you think of the 3.4!

08-15-2006, 09:18 AM	#116 (permalink)
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08-15-2006, 10:36 AM	#117 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 7,427	Yeah Cebby I plan on removing the insulation and cutting the bracing under the hood. If that doesn't do it I'll be looking for that hood scoop. If I'm real close to fitting I may try a couple washers between the hood and hinges just to see what it looks like before I cut the hole. I will have a hard time cutting the hole because I've taken such good care of the paint job for 13 years. :cry: __________________ Dale "America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war." T. Boone Pickens Check out the plan: http://www.pickensplan.com/index.php and http://www.cngnow.com/EN-US/Pages/default.aspx