3.4 swap started - Page 30

mt_goat · 12-30-2008, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadman

Yep. I was curious when I got it back and it flexed like it did before the coating.

Well that sounds like the way to go then.

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thefallman · 12-30-2008, 11:12 PM

just out of curiosity Cadman how much did that run you.

cadman · 12-31-2008, 06:22 AM

Off the top of my head I don't remember, but I'll look up the receipt when I get home tonight.

neoworm0 · 12-31-2008, 07:26 AM

I just had my xover ceramic coated locally here in Vancouver for $60 CDN. He originally qouted me $80 but I wanted it shiny and they did it black so he dropped the price. In any case it was a lot less than I thought it would be.

cadman · 12-31-2008, 07:19 PM

Apparently I don't have that receipt anymore which was for Jet Hot's sterling Silver coating on the cross-over and both exhaust manifolds. However, I do have a receipt for that coating on a set of '01 3.4 manifolds and that was $160.

$225 - $240 sounds like what I paid for coating the cross-over and other set of manifolds, so about $80ish for the cross-over alone is probably right. They also give a first time order discount of 10%.

BAMF_CT2004 · 01-01-2009, 07:54 AM

I had mine ceramic coated as well. No issues. It was pretty cheap too. Atleast I thought it was. IIRC i think it came out to just about the same price to buy the header wrap. Maybe less

thefallman · 01-03-2009, 05:09 PM

well guys unless i dont get a good offer for my swap, im out of the swap business. I Had a little misshap Friday evening and i think its time to sell my truck and get a full size. Now that i have a family and business my truck just isnt big enough and i cant justify fixing it right now.

mt_goat · 01-13-2009, 06:42 AM

I got the crossover welded up and ready to go to the ceramic coater today. The left bank tubing was damaged worse than I had though. It was pretty thin after getting too hot, scaling over and flaking off, both inside and out. So I ended up laying down a 2nd layer of tubing over that whole side. I used .078" thick strips about 3/4" wide and 4" long. TIG was used to weld. Some strips were lapped over to the good side to provide support and help prevent future cracking.

I just bent the strips to roughly the shape I needed and tacked in one spot. Then used a hammer to form the strips more like needed. They form real nicely near a tack, so it was tack and hammer, tack and hammer.

cadman · 01-13-2009, 06:49 AM

Are you going to add any bracing to the lower portion of your cross-over?

mt_goat · 01-13-2009, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadman

Are you going to add any bracing to the lower portion of your cross-over?

I did that about 6 months ago: http://www.yotatech.com/50863540-post700.html

mt_goat · 01-13-2009, 03:13 PM

Dropped off the crossover at Performance Coatings (OKC) today. They had 3 different options for ceramic coatings.

The standard silver color coating which they said was good to 1400* F. I didn't ask the price since I often run higher than that temp.

A black coating which is goes a little higher (IIRC it was 1600* F) $50

A titanium coating (darkish gray color) good to 2000* F for $65, I went with this one.

They said it may take 10 days.

mt_goat · 01-14-2009, 09:47 AM

Got some new exhaust gaskets and lock nuts form the dealer.

The old gaskets looked pretty good and I was tempted to reused them but they are such a PITA to get to I didn't want to risk a failure. I'm glad I did after getting them home I measured the thickness of the new versus the once used and the new ones were about .025" thicker. They are compressed or crushed as the nuts are tighten down, forming a seal. The .025" difference was not visible by eyeballing them.

The nuts were in pretty good shape too, but the locking tabs weren't working too good on a few of them and a couple were rounded a little. If one was to round off too much I'd probably have to remove the whole engine to get it off.

The part numbers seen in the pic are for a 2001, costs were $9 each for the gaskets and $1.50 each for the nuts.

mt_goat · 02-03-2009, 10:01 AM

Finally got the crossover back from Performance Coatings in OKC. Looks like it was worth the wait, they did a great job:

Here's some more info on titanium exhaust coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ptitanium.html

The standard aluminum ceramic coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ramiccoat.html

Black Velvet exhaust coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...htcoating.html

neoworm0 · 02-03-2009, 05:41 PM

Well hopefully that takes care of the cracking issue. Looks good.

mt_goat · 02-11-2009, 07:35 AM

The crossover going back on, I put on the new gaskets, cleaned up the studs with a wire brush and coated them good with anti-seize:

A few bloody knuckles later its back on:

neoworm0 · 02-11-2009, 07:54 AM

Dale, did you cut one of the studs on your exhaust manifold?

mt_goat · 02-11-2009, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoworm0

Dale, did you cut one of the studs on your exhaust manifold?

Yes, one on each side was cut down some to make it easier to get the nut on and off where the pipe bends back sharply. I did that while the engine was out a few years ago.

bwheat95yota · 02-25-2009, 05:16 PM

ok.....I have a 95 4runner and REALLY want to get rid of my 3.slow, done a little research but need things clarified, so ive heard mixed things, first that I could used the auto tranny in my truck with the 3.4? Also heard that I cannot, I would like to do the swap but from what i'm hearing and reading now is to do the swap I would need...
3.4
auto tranny 96+ and a gear driven tcase from an older taco with the output on drivers side to keep the ifs......yes I know I know, sas swap, just not sure which would be better to do first, since if I do an sas swap now, later I would need a different axle for a reg setup for a 3.4 and 150r auto tranny...
Any info tips ect. are greatly greatly appreciated

thefallman · 03-01-2009, 01:16 PM

you can use your A340H 3.slow tranny with the 3.4 it just requires you to do the wiring harness conversion or have someone that knows what they are doing do it. i used to do them but im to busy with other things and it would litterally probably take me the better part of 6 months to a year to complete a harness not because it would take that long but because i have to many other demands on my time. if you want to use the A340H thats in your truck currently then u need to find a 3.4 out of a T100 OR at min. a wiring harness and ecu out of a T100. PM me if you have any other questions. As far as i know i was the first to use the A340H in its stock configuration with a 3.4 swap.

Ahbustae86 · 03-10-2009, 11:38 PM

MT Goat- Props for doing the cleanest swap I've ever seen. So did this beast get a straight front conversion yet? I have a 91 4runner with a straight axle swap and I'm in the process of doing this swap. Thanks for the info and time writing on this thread.

mt_goat · 03-11-2009, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahbustae86

So did this beast get a straight front conversion yet?

Nope, probably never will. I'm pretty happy with IFS:

mt_goat · 07-17-2009, 12:36 PM

Just a little update, everything is running fine. The Marlin Crawler dual cases have an slight oil leak which drips on the garage floor now.

I've gotten a few PMs about MPG so this my best answer to that:

Quote:

Interesting about the MPG, 1st its about the same as the 3.0 was, 2nd it doesn't seem to matter if I'm driving 85 or 55, its still about the same LOL. So bottom line... I have double the power for the same MPG.

Here's some MPG numbers, but keep in mind my rig is heavy with extra equipment (winch, sliders, custom bumpers front and rear, dual cases...etc) About 16-17 highway, 13-14 city. On my last long trip the best was 18 with a few 17.5s in there too.

Auto tranny doesn't help either.

mrdoug · 09-10-2009, 08:49 PM

Hey Dale! Hows that cross over pipe treating you? Mostly I'm checking because I'm finally tackling mine and am concerned about the heat on the x-over. I wanted to check and see how that titanium ceramic coating was holding up now that you've had it on for a few months.

mt_goat · 09-11-2009, 05:07 AM

Hey MrDoug! Its been doing fine, no problems. Seems to be the way to go for sure

Good luck

thefallman · 09-18-2009, 11:58 PM

just a heads up, I pulled the engine and trans from my truck the other-day to put into a 4runner. (trucks got a bent frame, and 4runner had blown engine) Anyway i pulled the crossover off to inspect it just to check and see. and guess what i found. Yep you got it I found a crack in that Y. it was about an inch long and was very thin but it was cracked. ill post picks up tomorrow of it after i had it fixed. So you all might want to check those crossovers again. Especially since ORS isnt around to get knew ones from.

12-30-2008, 11:12 PM	#727 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	just out of curiosity Cadman how much did that run you. __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

12-31-2008, 06:22 AM	#728 (permalink)
cadman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orange County, SoCal Posts: 459	Off the top of my head I don't remember, but I'll look up the receipt when I get home tonight. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" my father-in-law 1989 4wd Xtra Cab, 3.4L V6 A340F auto, gear drive transfer case, 3" Downey rear leafs, 1.5" BJ spacers, Doetsch Tech shocks front & rear, E-code Hellas 4.88 gears, ARB locked F&R, Toyo Open Country MT 255/85R/16, Procomp 16x8 black steel Krawlers Badlands Basher front bumper, Warn M8000 winch, All-Pro Off-Road rear Tacoma bumper Revenge Fabrication Sliders Alpine CDA 9857 My 3.4 swap

12-31-2008, 07:26 AM	#729 (permalink)
neoworm0 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 604	I just had my xover ceramic coated locally here in Vancouver for $60 CDN. He originally qouted me $80 but I wanted it shiny and they did it black so he dropped the price. In any case it was a lot less than I thought it would be. __________________ 1995 Toyota PU SR5. 2000 3.4l V6 and a few other mods. my album: http://www.yotatech.com/album.php?albumid=101 my SAS: http://picasaweb.google.com/areinhol...eat=directlink www.overlandcanada.ca www.alltracwagon.net

12-31-2008, 07:19 PM	#730 (permalink)
cadman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orange County, SoCal Posts: 459	Apparently I don't have that receipt anymore which was for Jet Hot's sterling Silver coating on the cross-over and both exhaust manifolds. However, I do have a receipt for that coating on a set of '01 3.4 manifolds and that was $160. $225 - $240 sounds like what I paid for coating the cross-over and other set of manifolds, so about $80ish for the cross-over alone is probably right. They also give a first time order discount of 10%. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" my father-in-law 1989 4wd Xtra Cab, 3.4L V6 A340F auto, gear drive transfer case, 3" Downey rear leafs, 1.5" BJ spacers, Doetsch Tech shocks front & rear, E-code Hellas 4.88 gears, ARB locked F&R, Toyo Open Country MT 255/85R/16, Procomp 16x8 black steel Krawlers Badlands Basher front bumper, Warn M8000 winch, All-Pro Off-Road rear Tacoma bumper Revenge Fabrication Sliders Alpine CDA 9857 My 3.4 swap

01-03-2009, 05:09 PM	#732 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	well guys unless i dont get a good offer for my swap, im out of the swap business. I Had a little misshap Friday evening and i think its time to sell my truck and get a full size. Now that i have a family and business my truck just isnt big enough and i cant justify fixing it right now. __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

01-13-2009, 06:42 AM	#733 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,920	I got the crossover welded up and ready to go to the ceramic coater today. The left bank tubing was damaged worse than I had though. It was pretty thin after getting too hot, scaling over and flaking off, both inside and out. So I ended up laying down a 2nd layer of tubing over that whole side. I used .078" thick strips about 3/4" wide and 4" long. TIG was used to weld. Some strips were lapped over to the good side to provide support and help prevent future cracking. I just bent the strips to roughly the shape I needed and tacked in one spot. Then used a hammer to form the strips more like needed. They form real nicely near a tack, so it was tack and hammer, tack and hammer. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

01-13-2009, 06:49 AM	#734 (permalink)
cadman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orange County, SoCal Posts: 459	Are you going to add any bracing to the lower portion of your cross-over? __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right" my father-in-law 1989 4wd Xtra Cab, 3.4L V6 A340F auto, gear drive transfer case, 3" Downey rear leafs, 1.5" BJ spacers, Doetsch Tech shocks front & rear, E-code Hellas 4.88 gears, ARB locked F&R, Toyo Open Country MT 255/85R/16, Procomp 16x8 black steel Krawlers Badlands Basher front bumper, Warn M8000 winch, All-Pro Off-Road rear Tacoma bumper Revenge Fabrication Sliders Alpine CDA 9857 My 3.4 swap

01-13-2009, 03:13 PM	#736 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,920	Dropped off the crossover at Performance Coatings (OKC) today. They had 3 different options for ceramic coatings. The standard silver color coating which they said was good to 1400* F. I didn't ask the price since I often run higher than that temp. A black coating which is goes a little higher (IIRC it was 1600* F) $50 A titanium coating (darkish gray color) good to 2000* F for $65, I went with this one. They said it may take 10 days. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000. Last edited by mt_goat; 01-13-2009 at 03:20 PM.

01-14-2009, 09:47 AM	#737 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,920	Got some new exhaust gaskets and lock nuts form the dealer. The old gaskets looked pretty good and I was tempted to reused them but they are such a PITA to get to I didn't want to risk a failure. I'm glad I did after getting them home I measured the thickness of the new versus the once used and the new ones were about .025" thicker. They are compressed or crushed as the nuts are tighten down, forming a seal. The .025" difference was not visible by eyeballing them. The nuts were in pretty good shape too, but the locking tabs weren't working too good on a few of them and a couple were rounded a little. If one was to round off too much I'd probably have to remove the whole engine to get it off. The part numbers seen in the pic are for a 2001, costs were $9 each for the gaskets and $1.50 each for the nuts. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000. Last edited by mt_goat; 01-14-2009 at 10:00 AM.

02-03-2009, 10:01 AM	#738 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,920	Finally got the crossover back from Performance Coatings in OKC. Looks like it was worth the wait, they did a great job: Here's some more info on titanium exhaust coating: http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ptitanium.html The standard aluminum ceramic coating: http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ramiccoat.html Black Velvet exhaust coating: http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...htcoating.html __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

02-03-2009, 05:41 PM	#739 (permalink)
neoworm0 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 604	Well hopefully that takes care of the cracking issue. Looks good. __________________ 1995 Toyota PU SR5. 2000 3.4l V6 and a few other mods. my album: http://www.yotatech.com/album.php?albumid=101 my SAS: http://picasaweb.google.com/areinhol...eat=directlink www.overlandcanada.ca www.alltracwagon.net

02-11-2009, 07:35 AM	#740 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,920	The crossover going back on, I put on the new gaskets, cleaned up the studs with a wire brush and coated them good with anti-seize: A few bloody knuckles later its back on: __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

02-11-2009, 07:54 AM	#741 (permalink)
neoworm0 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 604	Dale, did you cut one of the studs on your exhaust manifold? __________________ 1995 Toyota PU SR5. 2000 3.4l V6 and a few other mods. my album: http://www.yotatech.com/album.php?albumid=101 my SAS: http://picasaweb.google.com/areinhol...eat=directlink www.overlandcanada.ca www.alltracwagon.net

02-25-2009, 05:16 PM	#743 (permalink)
bwheat95yota Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8	ok.....I have a 95 4runner and REALLY want to get rid of my 3.slow, done a little research but need things clarified, so ive heard mixed things, first that I could used the auto tranny in my truck with the 3.4? Also heard that I cannot, I would like to do the swap but from what i'm hearing and reading now is to do the swap I would need... 3.4 auto tranny 96+ and a gear driven tcase from an older taco with the output on drivers side to keep the ifs......yes I know I know, sas swap, just not sure which would be better to do first, since if I do an sas swap now, later I would need a different axle for a reg setup for a 3.4 and 150r auto tranny... Any info tips ect. are greatly greatly appreciated

03-01-2009, 01:16 PM	#744 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	you can use your A340H 3.slow tranny with the 3.4 it just requires you to do the wiring harness conversion or have someone that knows what they are doing do it. i used to do them but im to busy with other things and it would litterally probably take me the better part of 6 months to a year to complete a harness not because it would take that long but because i have to many other demands on my time. if you want to use the A340H thats in your truck currently then u need to find a 3.4 out of a T100 OR at min. a wiring harness and ecu out of a T100. PM me if you have any other questions. As far as i know i was the first to use the A340H in its stock configuration with a 3.4 swap. __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

03-10-2009, 11:38 PM	#745 (permalink)
Ahbustae86 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 22	MT Goat- Props for doing the cleanest swap I've ever seen. So did this beast get a straight front conversion yet? I have a 91 4runner with a straight axle swap and I'm in the process of doing this swap. Thanks for the info and time writing on this thread.

09-10-2009, 08:49 PM	#748 (permalink)
mrdoug Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 88	Hey Dale! Hows that cross over pipe treating you? Mostly I'm checking because I'm finally tackling mine and am concerned about the heat on the x-over. I wanted to check and see how that titanium ceramic coating was holding up now that you've had it on for a few months. __________________ DD - 02 ext-cab Taco, SAW/AAL lift, Armor a la budbuilt, bentup and badlands, manual hub conversion, 265/75-16 TKO's Project - 85 ext-cab lawn ornament

09-11-2009, 05:07 AM	#749 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,920	Hey MrDoug! Its been doing fine, no problems. Seems to be the way to go for sure Good luck __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

09-18-2009, 11:58 PM	#750 (permalink)
thefallman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 550	just a heads up, I pulled the engine and trans from my truck the other-day to put into a 4runner. (trucks got a bent frame, and 4runner had blown engine) Anyway i pulled the crossover off to inspect it just to check and see. and guess what i found. Yep you got it I found a crack in that Y. it was about an inch long and was very thin but it was cracked. ill post picks up tomorrow of it after i had it fixed. So you all might want to check those crossovers again. Especially since ORS isnt around to get knew ones from. __________________ ~Brian GETTING FIXED 89 Ex-Cab 3.4 Conv. T100 Auto Tranny ~Phoenix 94 Ex-Cab 22re 5spd Came with parts truck. Doesnt run yet. 90 4runner 3.0 Auto (Wifes Toy) 92 4runner 3.0 Auto (Currently With Blown Engine) (New 3.4 Swap i think)

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