3.4 swap started

mt_goat · 03-28-2006, 07:51 AM

This thread has become too big to find things, so here's an alphabetical index (work in progress some of these page #s may change as the index gets bigger)
Index
3.0 engine/tranny removed page 1
3.4 engine/tranny removed page 3
3.4 engine installed page 5
3.4 cross-over pipe page 1
ABS removal page 3
AC conversion page 10 & 11 &13
Airbox fitting page 7
Aquamist pump page 3
ATF coolers page 3
Auto shifter fitting and console mods pages 1, 2, 8
Auto shifter linkage page 8
Auto shift lock control page 8
Battery location page 2
Big 3 wire upgrade page 3 & 10
Budbuilt crossmember page 6
Bug hunt begins page 9
CEL P0420 page 10
CEL P1780 page 13 & 14
Cooling system debate pages 4, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14...on going
Crank pulley holder page 5
Cross-over installed page 5
Cruise control swap page 2
Dip stick drilling and relocation page 3
Dogleg t-case shifter mod page 8
Drive shaft details pages 8, 11, 12
EGT bung page 5
Electric-fan details page 3 & 7
Engine bay detailing page 1
Exhaust page 10
Finding a donor truck page 6
Fuel leak bug page 9
Gauges page 2
Hood modification page 7
Horse power debate page 6
Key turning day page 9
Motor mount chains page 5
OBDII plug location page 7
O2 sensor bungs page 8
O2 simulator page 12
Overdrive on/off button bug page 10 & 13
Pic help page 7
Plan page 1
Short throw shifters page 5
Speedo sender page 5
Stearing shaft clearance page 7
Supercharger on page 4
Tach mod page 2
Traction bar page 1
Transfer case gearing page 6
Transfer case oil leak page 12
Throttle and tranny cable bracket page 8
Tuning pages 11, 14
URD injectors on page 4
URD FTC and A/F cal location and wiring page 5 & 7
V6 to crawl box adapter page 5
Valve body install page 7

I think a 5VZFE should fit nicely in here now.

But first I need to clean it up. :pat:

The stuff I took out:

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Elvota · 03-28-2006, 10:02 AM

I'm jealous.

Ever done anything like this before? Did you get a wrecked vehicle, or just the motor? Which tranny will you use?

Best of luck.

mt_goat · 03-28-2006, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvota

I'm jealous.

Ever done anything like this before? Did you get a wrecked vehicle, or just the motor? Which tranny will you use?

Best of luck.

No, never removed a tranny or an engine before. I bought this wrecked 2001 Tacoma for a donor: http://community.webshots.com/album/383446112ZpbXpN

I'll use the 3.4 auto tranny with a marlin adapter to a pair of 23 spline gear driven transfer cases (Marlin's ultimate crawler). The 3.4 transfer case has the front driveshaft on the wrong side.

I'm also putting on a supercharger with 2.1 inch drive pulley, URD fuel mods, and water injection. I already put the Walbro 190 fuel pump in.

The auto tranny will be getting a valve body upgrade and two extra Tru-cool LPD coolers (http://www.importperformancetrans.com/coolers.shtml ) to help handle the extra power. I'm hoping to get close to 300HP.

I'm going to use the stock 3.4 exhaust manifolds with ORS's custom cross-over

and 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipe from the cross-over back (anyone know where I can find some 2.5" mandrel bends)?

I have the complete ORS conversion kit: http://www.offroadsolutions.com/tech...n_kit_auto.htm

Injohneer · 03-28-2006, 04:20 PM

Good luck, man!
Just think, I COULD have given you some tranny swapping experience a few years ago, if I hadn't decided to go the easy route.
Wish I was down in Edmond to help ya out/gain experience.

mt_goat · 03-28-2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injohneer

Good luck, man!
Just think, I COULD have given you some tranny swapping experience a few years ago, if I hadn't decided to go the easy route.
Wish I was down in Edmond to help ya out/gain experience.

LOL, yeah I was thinking of you as I was pulling that tranny.

rimpainter.com · 03-28-2006, 07:20 PM

Awesome! Can't wait till you fire that bad boy up and roast some ricers!

mt_goat · 03-29-2006, 03:31 AM

Yeah Christian, never roasted anything with my 150 hp 3.slo, that will be a new experience.

I already put on a Budbuilt traction bar to keep my 33's from bouncing.

I modified it a little so it would protect the driveshaft from rocks better.

I decided to use the weld-on bracket that Bud sells as an option. I also added some extra bracing at the top and bottom of the weld-on bracket:

mt_goat · 03-30-2006, 05:34 AM

This was a very satisfying day, got the engine bay all washed out,

It had never been washed out in the 13 years I owned it so I couldn't wait to get it clean (I was possessed like Monica). I started with engine degreaser but that only helped with the grease and oil spots, for the rest of the dirt I used a scrub brush and a toilet brush and a bucket of soapy hot water. It would have been nice to have a power washer, but I don't.

In the process I discovered a blown bushing on my torsion bar rocker arm (Superlift part), so I had to tear the whole front end apart too. The good news is with the engine bay empty getting those bushings out is much easier.

Injohneer · 03-30-2006, 07:06 AM

Clean freak!

Haha. Kyle (you sold the ARB bumper to him) said you were, now I believe it! LOL

mt_goat · 03-30-2006, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injohneer

Clean freak!

Haha. Kyle (you sold the ARB bumper to him) said you were, now I believe it! LOL

LOL, yeah that bumper was highly polished by the time I was finished with it.

That plus I put some cardboard under his leaky engine so it wouldn't drip all-over my garage floor while I installed the bumper on his truck.

I did go 13 years without cleaning the engine bay, so maybe I'm not "Mr clean"

hektikwon · 04-02-2006, 07:44 PM

What kinds of mods need to be done to the fuel system for the supercharger. I've bben thinking about putting 1 on but I'm not sure if I can justify the cost yet. Good luck with the swap!

callmej75 · 04-02-2006, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

This was a very satisfying day, got the engine bay all washed out, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...42310107oQXtgt

It had never been washed out in the 13 years I owned it so I couldn't wait to get it clean (I was possessed like Monica). I started with engine degreaser but that only helped with the grease and oil spots, for the rest of the dirt I used a scrub brush and a toilet brush and a bucket of soapy hot water. It would have been nice to have a power washer, but I don't.

In the process I discovered a blown bushing on my torsion bar rocker arm (Superlift part), so I had to tear the whole front end apart too. The good news is with the engine bay empty getting those bushings out is much easier.

Thats one clean bay! wow...good job man.

CoedNaked · 04-02-2006, 09:00 PM

Just curious how you are going about with routing the exhaust/crossover pipe/manifolds, etc. from the 3.4 on your swap?

**rocket** · 04-02-2006, 09:15 PM

^

Quote:

I'm going to use the stock 3.4 exhaust manifolds with ORS's custom cross-over (http://community.webshots.com/photo...042310107mrSdec) and 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipe from the cross-over back (anyone know where I can find some 2.5" mandrel bends)?

http://www.offroadsolutions.com/imag...s/DCP_1388.jpg

91Toyota4x4 · 04-02-2006, 09:21 PM

That Taco looks awefully nice to be a donor...

Does it have the ELocker?

mt_goat · 04-03-2006, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hektikwon

What kinds of mods need to be done to the fuel system for the supercharger. I've bben thinking about putting 1 on but I'm not sure if I can justify the cost yet. Good luck with the swap!

I decided to use URD's fuel kit: http://www.urdusa.com/index.php?cPat...f13b50a24ab54b and URD's A/F ratio calabrator:http://www.urdusa.com/product_info.p..._id=1230100028

mt_goat · 04-03-2006, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by callmej75

Thats one clean bay! wow...good job man.

Thanks, don't very often have a chance to clean with the engine out of the way so i wanted to take advantage.

mt_goat · 04-03-2006, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoedNaked

Just curious how you are going about with routing the exhaust/crossover pipe/manifolds, etc. from the 3.4 on your swap?

Yeah as Rocket pointed out, ORS has made my cross-over, except the pic that Rocket posted is the older style before Mike started using a flex coupling in the cross-over. I'll go 2.5" mandel bent tube from there straight back with a flex coupling or two. I may TIG that up myself if I can find some 2.5" mandel bends, appearantly no one in Okla has a 2.5 mandel bender.

I have a Car Sound cat and a 24" Magnaflow muffer. The 01 Taco had a 2 cat system but no way am I putting a 2 cat system on a 93 truck. I'll use one of these if I have a problem with the ECU not liking the one cat:http://www.urdusa.com/product_info.p...f13b50a24ab54b

mt_goat · 04-03-2006, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91Toyota4x4

That Taco looks awefully nice to be a donor...

Does it have the ELocker?

Yeah it has the "real" TRD package with e-locker, and yes it really is too nice to part out, so I may end up rebuilding it for my next project. I drove it around yesterday one last time before I start draining all the fluids. It runs and drives great

I replaced that broken lower control arm in the pics before driving it of course.

mt_goat · 04-05-2006, 07:10 AM

As you can see here the 3.0 and 3.4 auto shifters are a lot different:

I made a cardboard template of the bottom of the 3.4 shifter and cut the floor board for the new shifter:

I saw this link on my many searches for info and liked the idea of keeping my center console as stock looking as possible: http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/autocrawler/ So I ordered a console for a 1989-1995 4cyl 4WD AT Truck with gray interior (part #58802-35031-BO). I think the BO part of that number is the color code. The parts guy said there are not many of these consoles available. It comes with the leather boot but I ordered a second boot for my extra TC shifter that will come up (hopefully) in the middle of the coin cup thingy.

As Phil points out in his write-up the 4 cyl auto console matches the rest of the V6 console very well but because the 3.4 shifter is higher than the older auto shifters it requires either raising the whole console off the floor to match the shifter or cutting the console up so the shifter can stick up through it. After test fitting for a while I decided to go a different route than Phil and try cutting up this brand new $50 console.

After cutting and fitting and cutting and fitting and cutting and fitting and.....30 more times cutting and fitting, I got this:

My plan now is to make a little skirt to cover the cut out for the shifter. I have no doubt I can make it look good it's just a matter of how much time will it take

Injohneer · 04-05-2006, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

After cutting and fitting and cutting and fitting and cutting and fitting and.....30 more times cutting and fitting, I got this:http://community.webshots.com/photo/...42310107AKlNak
My plan now is to make a little skirt to cover the cut out for the shifter. I have no doubt I can make it look good it's just a matter of how much time will it take

Good lookin' work there!

Although I think

might be the wrong approach for making a boot for the shifter...

How's the rest of the swap going? Got the donor engine out yet?

mt_goat · 04-05-2006, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injohneer

Good lookin' work there!

Although I think

might be the wrong approach for making a boot for the shifter...

How's the rest of the swap going? Got the donor engine out yet?

A boot isn't really a good word to use, more like a piece of trim about 1/2 inch high all the way around the cutout but fabricated out of one piece, like a lid of a box. I'll probably end up making one from some sheet metal but I'm still looking around for a box just the right size. It needs to be between 2.5-3" wide and 6.5-7.5" long. I went on a scavenger hunt around the house and even spent about 30 mins at Walmart looking for any box or lid the right size.

I have'nt started removing the donor engine yet. Yesterday was spend replacing the blown suspension bushings I found while cleaning the engine bay. Superlift sent me some new ones already and it is much easier to replace them with everything out of the way.

Injohneer · 04-05-2006, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

A boot isn't really a good word to use, more like a piece of trim about 1/2 inch high all the way around the cutout but fabricated out of one piece, like a lid of a box. I'll probably end up making one from some sheet metal but I'm still looking around for a box just the right size. It needs to be between 2.5-3" wide and 6.5-7.5" long. I went on a scavenger hunt around the house and even spent about 30 mins at Walmart looking for any box or lid the right size.

Oh, I understand now... I was looking at the wrong side of the console...yes, a little box is what you need...

Does it need to provide structural support or is it solely cosmetic?

mt_goat · 04-05-2006, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Injohneer

Oh, I understand now... I was looking at the wrong side of the console...yes, a little box is what you need...

Does it need to provide structural support or is it solely cosmetic?

Only cosmetic. Yeah, for the other side the console came with a leather boot but it's not on yet.

slosurfer · 04-05-2006, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mt_goat

Only cosmetic. Yeah, for the other side the console came with a leather boot but it's not on yet.

You could always look for a tupperware type container lid. Try someplace like Bed, Bath, and Beyond they make those containers in almost any size. Might work, who knows.
Chris

03-28-2006, 10:02 AM	#2 (permalink)
Elvota Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,436	I'm jealous. Ever done anything like this before? Did you get a wrecked vehicle, or just the motor? Which tranny will you use? Best of luck. __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY visit the sticki chronicles

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Injohneer Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 667	Good luck, man! Just think, I COULD have given you some tranny swapping experience a few years ago, if I hadn't decided to go the easy route. Wish I was down in Edmond to help ya out/gain experience. __________________ Trail/Build Rig: 1981 Toyota Pickup 4x4, flatbed Tow Rig: 2001 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 4x4, X-cab Long Bed. Will be my tow rig, when I get a trailer. RIP: 1995 4Runner.

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mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	Yeah Christian, never roasted anything with my 150 hp 3.slo, that will be a new experience. I already put on a Budbuilt traction bar to keep my 33's from bouncing. I modified it a little so it would protect the driveshaft from rocks better. I decided to use the weld-on bracket that Bud sells as an option. I also added some extra bracing at the top and bottom of the weld-on bracket: __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000. Last edited by mt_goat; 02-02-2008 at 09:15 AM.

03-30-2006, 05:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	This was a very satisfying day, got the engine bay all washed out, It had never been washed out in the 13 years I owned it so I couldn't wait to get it clean (I was possessed like Monica). I started with engine degreaser but that only helped with the grease and oil spots, for the rest of the dirt I used a scrub brush and a toilet brush and a bucket of soapy hot water. It would have been nice to have a power washer, but I don't. In the process I discovered a blown bushing on my torsion bar rocker arm (Superlift part), so I had to tear the whole front end apart too. The good news is with the engine bay empty getting those bushings out is much easier. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000. Last edited by mt_goat; 02-02-2008 at 09:16 AM.

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Injohneer Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 667	Clean freak! Haha. Kyle (you sold the ARB bumper to him) said you were, now I believe it! LOL __________________ Trail/Build Rig: 1981 Toyota Pickup 4x4, flatbed Tow Rig: 2001 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 4x4, X-cab Long Bed. Will be my tow rig, when I get a trailer. RIP: 1995 4Runner.

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hektikwon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NE GA (Between blizzads & hurricanes) Posts: 462	What kinds of mods need to be done to the fuel system for the supercharger. I've bben thinking about putting 1 on but I'm not sure if I can justify the cost yet. Good luck with the swap! __________________ 91 4x4 4runna 3.4 , auto to manual tranny conversion, 2" body lift, Aisin manual hub conversion, vinyl flooring, 2nd gen inclinometer, 2.5 Magnalow cat & muffler, Trail Gear Sliders, Bilstein Shocks *Gone but not forgotten 96 4runna Limited e-locked, KC Fogs, 265/70/16 Hankook Dynapro ATm's

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91Toyota4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 215	That Taco looks awefully nice to be a donor... Does it have the ELocker? __________________ SASed 91 V6 Extracab

04-05-2006, 07:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,916	As you can see here the 3.0 and 3.4 auto shifters are a lot different: I made a cardboard template of the bottom of the 3.4 shifter and cut the floor board for the new shifter: I saw this link on my many searches for info and liked the idea of keeping my center console as stock looking as possible: http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/autocrawler/ So I ordered a console for a 1989-1995 4cyl 4WD AT Truck with gray interior (part #58802-35031-BO). I think the BO part of that number is the color code. The parts guy said there are not many of these consoles available. It comes with the leather boot but I ordered a second boot for my extra TC shifter that will come up (hopefully) in the middle of the coin cup thingy. As Phil points out in his write-up the 4 cyl auto console matches the rest of the V6 console very well but because the 3.4 shifter is higher than the older auto shifters it requires either raising the whole console off the floor to match the shifter or cutting the console up so the shifter can stick up through it. After test fitting for a while I decided to go a different route than Phil and try cutting up this brand new $50 console. After cutting and fitting and cutting and fitting and cutting and fitting and.....30 more times cutting and fitting, I got this: My plan now is to make a little skirt to cover the cut out for the shifter. I have no doubt I can make it look good it's just a matter of how much time will it take __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000. Last edited by mt_goat; 02-02-2008 at 09:25 AM.

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