Polish/Wax questions

SLC Punk · 04-07-2004, 10:20 AM

I have been reading posts on Zaino and Griots. I am going to detail my wife's boss's car for some extra cash. Its an 2002 white Sequoia. He is never has time to wash it, and if he does its done at a car wash (the full service kind). Bob_98SR5 told me that Zaino products need the spray and special wash or it will strip it off. This would not be a problem if it were my car, but for his, I don't know if it will work out.

So my question is, what should I use? I have been using Maguir's for the past 5 years and have been pretty happy with it, and it lasts a long time.

I don't want to buy a porter cable since I am planning on buying the Zaino products for my vehicles, so what other recommendations do you have?

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**waskillywabbit** · 04-07-2004, 10:24 AM

I'd just use what you got. A nicely detailed rig inside and out doesn't take a lot of fancy products, just some good old fashioned work ethic. The true test to me if a car is really clean is if the windows are streak free inside and out all the way around and that the inside is immaculate, no dust, grime, dirt anywhere and that is smells clean. The outside is easy, the inside is where you get repeat customers...

Good luck Travis!

Bob_98SR5 · 04-07-2004, 10:38 AM

Hey Trav,

If your boss won't hand wash it w/ the Zaino fluid, then go with what you have or the Griots which lasts longer.

Bob

BT17R · 04-07-2004, 10:44 AM

Mind if I ask what you're charging? Around here, a full-sized SUV detail with machine polish, wax and interior would be $300-$325 for a quality job and take all day.

Back to your question: I'd use a separate polish, maybe #7 Show Car Glaze if it isn't swirled too badly, followed by #26 liquid carnauba. The advantage is a better shine and no chance of black trim or rubber discoloration, easy to use, and available anywhere. Skip the clay bar step, unless it's your vehicle!

The Meguiar's cleaner/wax products will discolor black trim.

SLC Punk · 04-07-2004, 11:01 AM

Bob (both of you) and Brian,
Thanks for your recommendations! I am going to see how much Meguiar's stuff I have left and buy any extra stuff at Autozone.

Quote:

The true test to me if a car is really clean is if the windows are streak free inside and out all the way around and that the inside is immaculate, no dust, grime, dirt anywhere and that is smells clean. The outside is easy, the inside is where you get repeat customers...

Good point! He has a Cobra and a Suburban too, so if I do a really good job, then maybe he will have me do those.

Quote:

Mind if I ask what you're charging? Around here, a full-sized SUV detail with machine polish, wax and interior would be $300-$325 for a quality job and take all day.

I am charging $250

Quote:

I'd use a separate polish, maybe #7 Show Car Glaze if it isn't swirled too badly, followed by #26 liquid carnauba. The advantage is a better shine and no chance of black trim or rubber discoloration, easy to use, and available anywhere. Skip the clay bar step, unless it's your vehicle! The Meguiar's cleaner/wax products will discolor black trim.

I know I have a full bottle of #7 I will have to see how much #26 I have left. I will see the condition of the paint, and determine if I need to clay. Since its the Limited version, I don't think there is a lot of black trim on it.. I could be wrong though.

Thanks again guys!

**waskillywabbit** · 04-07-2004, 11:07 AM

Glad to help and PEANUT BUTTER!

SLC Punk · 04-09-2004, 04:40 AM

I have another question.
He has 20" blings. Last time I saw it, they were very dirty. What do you recommend that I do to clean these? I bought some chrome polish, but I don't know if it will get all the crap off of it.

Mossback74 · 04-09-2004, 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLC Punk

I have another question.
He has 20" blings. Last time I saw it, they were very dirty. What do you recommend that I do to clean these? I bought some chrome polish, but I don't know if it will get all the crap off of it.

Replace 'em with black steelies

SLC Punk · 04-09-2004, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mossback74

Replace 'em with black steelies

I was waiting for that comment, or for someone like Christian (<96Runner>) to say "paint them black"

**waskillywabbit** · 04-09-2004, 05:24 AM

PAINT THEM BLACK!!!

SLC Punk · 04-09-2004, 05:33 AM

--> Me

<--Brian!!

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Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

PAINT THEM BLACK!!!

Tacoma Dude · 04-09-2004, 05:37 AM

You can use clay on the rims too.
I have a brush that I use to get the majority of the gunk off and if it's still bad you could always use clay on the wheels.

Someone posted a cheaper alternative to the expensive clay. I'll search and see if I can find it.

Here it is:
http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...highlight=clay

EDIT:
Right, a brush on the bling rims. What the heck am I thinking???

tomstin · 04-09-2004, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLC Punk

Bob_98SR5 told me that Zaino products need the spray and special wash or it will strip it off.

Once the Zaino is on, you can wash it with any normal car wash. NOTHING lasts longer! So, if you're going to do this once, and want it to last long. Zaino.

If, like many of us, want to add additional layers of Zaino, you need to use their car wash. The spray removes dust and any haze between layers and works well as a quick detailer.

But, to get back to the question I think you asked, you can was Zaino with any car wash. Short of prep-solve this stuff is tuff!

foxtrapper · 04-09-2004, 07:13 AM

If you've been happy with Meguires, you're going to be stunned by Zainos. I personally use Klasse, but Zainos is very good also. Neither screw up plastic trim.

For plastic trim, I recommend Black Again. It's really quite remarkable what it does. Excellent at cleaning the stains and gunk out of plastic trim. Though the Klasse All in One also does a dandy job of cleaning it as well.

For cleaning really nasty areas, like scuzzy wheels, Eagle's A2Z is excellent.

Tacoma Dude · 04-09-2004, 07:15 AM

Anyone have any preferences for the easy-to-scratch-and-fog-up clear plastic shield in front of the guages? There seems to be very little discussion on it.

Anyone use anything common?

SLC Punk · 04-09-2004, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

Anyone have any preferences for the easy-to-scratch-and-fog-up clear plastic shield in front of the guages? There seems to be very little discussion on it.

Anyone use anything common?

Good question. I just ordered a replacement for my Celica because it is hazy ($20). They wanted over $50 for the 4Runner.

I just use a wet chamois.

SLC Punk · 04-09-2004, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomstin

Once the Zaino is on, you can wash it with any normal car wash. NOTHING lasts longer! So, if you're going to do this once, and want it to last long. Zaino.

If, like many of us, want to add additional layers of Zaino, you need to use their car wash. The spray removes dust and any haze between layers and works well as a quick detailer.

But, to get back to the question I think you asked, you can was Zaino with any car wash. Short of prep-solve this stuff is tuff!

I bought the Meguair's stuff for his Sequoia. I am definately going to get the Zaino's for my vehicles. I am not sure if it will be as dramatic since my Celica is white and my 4Runner is Desert Dune.

**waskillywabbit** · 04-09-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

Anyone have any preferences for the easy-to-scratch-and-fog-up clear plastic shield in front of the guages? There seems to be very little discussion on it.

Anyone use anything common?

I use the Griot's lint free towels, comes in a set with a little dispenser for 100, and the Griot's window cleaner. Works well and no scratches.

foxtrapper · 04-09-2004, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Dude

Anyone have any preferences for the easy-to-scratch-and-fog-up clear plastic shield in front of the guages? There seems to be very little discussion on it.

Anyone use anything common?

Wax. Be it car wax, furniture wax, acrylic or what ever. They all do a fine job of filling in the scratches and making the plastic much clearer. Works equally well on cheap sunglasses, motorcycle windshields and the like.

Tacoma Dude · 04-09-2004, 08:28 AM

No problems with it turning white like it does on cladding then?

04-07-2004, 10:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,544	Detailing I'd just use what you got. A nicely detailed rig inside and out doesn't take a lot of fancy products, just some good old fashioned work ethic. The true test to me if a car is really clean is if the windows are streak free inside and out all the way around and that the inside is immaculate, no dust, grime, dirt anywhere and that is smells clean. The outside is easy, the inside is where you get repeat customers... Good luck Travis! __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

04-07-2004, 10:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
BT17R Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Da Gorge, Oregon Posts: 5,673	Mind if I ask what you're charging? Around here, a full-sized SUV detail with machine polish, wax and interior would be $300-$325 for a quality job and take all day. Back to your question: I'd use a separate polish, maybe #7 Show Car Glaze if it isn't swirled too badly, followed by #26 liquid carnauba. The advantage is a better shine and no chance of black trim or rubber discoloration, easy to use, and available anywhere. Skip the clay bar step, unless it's your vehicle! The Meguiar's cleaner/wax products will discolor black trim. __________________ '07 FJ Cruiser TRD SE 6M/T

04-07-2004, 11:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,544	Two things Glad to help and PEANUT BUTTER! __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

04-09-2004, 04:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
SLC Punk Contributing Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 5,875	I have another question. He has 20" blings. Last time I saw it, they were very dirty. What do you recommend that I do to clean these? I bought some chrome polish, but I don't know if it will get all the crap off of it. __________________ -Travis 1997 4Runner SR5 V6 4X4 Supercharged Desert Dune SOLD :( 1992 Celica All Trac (AWD-Turbo) #223 of 271 US spec for 1992 FOR SALE 2005 Tundra Double Cab Limited 4X4 2.5" lift 265/70R17 Dueler Revo's 4Runner and Celica Webpage

04-09-2004, 05:24 AM	#10 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,544	Uh PAINT THEM BLACK!!! __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

04-07-2004, 10:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bob_98SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 10,092	Hey Trav, If your boss won't hand wash it w/ the Zaino fluid, then go with what you have or the Griots which lasts longer. Bob

04-09-2004, 05:37 AM	#12 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	You can use clay on the rims too. I have a brush that I use to get the majority of the gunk off and if it's still bad you could always use clay on the wheels. Someone posted a cheaper alternative to the expensive clay. I'll search and see if I can find it. Here it is: http://www.yotatech.com/showthread.p...highlight=clay EDIT: Right, a brush on the bling rims. What the heck am I thinking??? __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

04-09-2004, 07:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
foxtrapper Guest Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 315	If you've been happy with Meguires, you're going to be stunned by Zainos. I personally use Klasse, but Zainos is very good also. Neither screw up plastic trim. For plastic trim, I recommend Black Again. It's really quite remarkable what it does. Excellent at cleaning the stains and gunk out of plastic trim. Though the Klasse All in One also does a dandy job of cleaning it as well. For cleaning really nasty areas, like scuzzy wheels, Eagle's A2Z is excellent.

04-09-2004, 07:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	Anyone have any preferences for the easy-to-scratch-and-fog-up clear plastic shield in front of the guages? There seems to be very little discussion on it. Anyone use anything common? __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

04-09-2004, 08:28 AM	#20 (permalink)
Tacoma Dude Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 8,360	No problems with it turning white like it does on cladding then? __________________ Peter! 2002 Tacoma 1986 4Runner

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