Going to get wheel seals done at the dealer...

Gangus2006 · 10-24-2005, 04:43 PM

...Upon my mom's wishes, I scheduled an apointment to get hte wheel seals done, and the shoes replaced at the dealer.

What should we expect the wallet damage to be?

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Jared Ajlouny · 10-24-2005, 04:45 PM

expect one good thing...you wont have to carry a wallet anymore cause you wont have anyhting to put in it....

rimpainter.com · 10-24-2005, 04:56 PM

You mean the axle seals and rear brake job? Both axle seals are bad?

Gangus2006 · 10-24-2005, 05:02 PM

Both seals blew. And, apparently, fluids make the shoes swell up, so were going to have that replaced too.

Rivalred · 10-24-2005, 05:04 PM

Were you off roading and have not done a breather mod?

Gangus2006 · 10-24-2005, 05:07 PM

Unfortunately, yes. I ordered the parts to to the mod though, theyre coming in Wed, Ill install them then. The surgery appointment is Thursday.

bflooks · 10-25-2005, 07:32 AM

savings? what savings?

FilthyRich · 10-25-2005, 07:33 AM

I think I paid $400 in change for both inner and outer axle seals on both sides and new shoes
It is expensive

X-AWDriver · 10-25-2005, 10:59 AM

I'm having my rear seals done and I'm also getting front and rear shocks and coils installed and the damage including new rear shoes is under $700 from the Mitsubishi garage that sponsored me when I had my Eclipse. I'm sure the seals are solidly under $500.

Bennito · 10-27-2005, 07:13 AM

Both inner and outer seals replaced here on both passenger and driver side, brake pads and machining the drums ran around 500. Call it a moment of weakness on the brake job, instead of doing it myself.

Not sure if the following is good or bad. Maybe both.

Two weaks later the driver side was leaking again. (of course that's bad) The upside was the shop replaced the seal and once again replaced the brake pads (though I think this time they just wiped out the drum) without so much as asking for cash. Not bad for a stealership. (they shouldn't have asked, but its a stealer)

FilthyRich · 10-27-2005, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bennito

Both inner and outer seals replaced here on both passenger and driver side, brake pads and machining the drums ran around 500. Call it a moment of weakness on the brake job, instead of doing it myself.

Not sure if the following is good or bad. Maybe both.

Two weaks later the driver side was leaking again. (of course that's bad) The upside was the shop replaced the seal and once again replaced the brake pads (though I think this time they just wiped out the drum) without so much as asking for cash. Not bad for a stealership. (they shouldn't have asked, but its a stealer)

that is why I sucked it up and paid a shop. I already had replaced drums twice and two outer seals (yes I have the diff breather extended) and was tired of the hassle. I paid for it all, go the piece of mind and warranty and have not had a problem since

Gangus2006 · 10-27-2005, 04:26 PM

Inner and Outer Axle seals, machining drums, new shoes, new fluid, and labor = $800 + Tax @ Toyota in Lancaster, MA.

toddowaddo · 10-28-2005, 08:59 PM

I'm glad I did this myself. $5.99 for the seal and $19.99 for brake shoes sure beats $500-800. An afternoon job if you have the space and tools.

gapguy · 10-28-2005, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangus2006

Inner and Outer Axle seals, machining drums, new shoes, new fluid, and labor = $800 + Tax @ Toyota in Lancaster, MA.

Bummer. I paid $194 for the same job.

noahrexion · 10-29-2005, 09:36 AM

Quote:

I'm glad I did this myself. $5.99 for the seal and $19.99 for brake shoes sure beats $500-800. An afternoon job if you have the space and tools.

Im with you on that! I paid like $10 for both seals, installed one, cleaned the drums/shoes/cylnders and all was good to go. I ended up replacing the other side just for fun cuase it only took me like an hour for one side. DIY > all

kyle_22r · 10-29-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangus2006

Inner and Outer Axle seals, machining drums, new shoes, new fluid, and labor = $800 + Tax @ Toyota in Lancaster, MA.

holy crap, i could do that job with NEW drums for $120 or so in parts. they must really be working the flat rate book on that, it's an EASY job.

dwh91102 · 10-29-2005, 11:57 AM

once again gangus, not even a kiss

Gangus2006 · 10-29-2005, 12:28 PM

Replaced Rear Leaking Axle Seals Labor $240
2x O Rings $12.27 Each $24.54 Total
12 GLB PT Gear Lube $3.65 Each $43.80 Total
2x Oil Seals $12.87 Each $25.74 Total
1x Breather Plug $8.80 (Even though I asked them not to replace the breather since I was going to do the extension anyways)
Rear Brake Service Labor $160
2x Brake Drums $113.79 Each $227.58 Total
1x Brake Cleaner $4.45
1x Rear Shoes Kit $73.13
Lube Disposal $10
Sales Tax $20.55

Grand Total $841.59 and 2 bottles of KY

FilthyRich · 10-29-2005, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gangus2006

Inner and Outer Axle seals, machining drums, new shoes, new fluid, and labor = $800 + Tax @ Toyota in Lancaster, MA.

the inner seals are a bitch b/c of the lock collar. OUter are a breeze to replace. you don't have to pull the axle shafts

bflooks · 10-29-2005, 01:45 PM

doesn't help that they REPLACED the drums! that is where they got you. and the breather...why wouldn't they replace it? you told them not to, but how could they warranty the work when it was the breather that caused the problem in the first place?! i never would have let them do the work until i got a quote first. if you had done that, then you could have told them to turn down the old drums.

actually...did they even replace the drums? you should look to see. if they didn't, then the also jipped you on the 2 bottles of ky you think you got.

Gangus2006 · 10-29-2005, 01:50 PM

Yes, I did check to see if the rear drums were replaced. Brand new (I checked for the cracks I put in it when I was trying to take them off)

Apparently, the rear drums were "so soaked in oil it was impossible to machine them".

When I brought the truck in they said they were going to look over the truck to see exactly why it was leaking, then call me with the quote. When they called with the $800+ tax quote, I told them I was going to take the truck home and find money for the repair, adn thats when they told me about the $80/hour diagnostics fee, and that they spent 3 hours finding the leak.

bflooks · 10-29-2005, 02:11 PM

that is insane! why would you ever do that?! you knew it was the seals

you should really listen sometimes. could have saved some $$$$$. but that is all said and done now. glad the runner is fixed.

dwh91102 · 10-29-2005, 02:25 PM

you sir have been

X-AWDriver · 10-29-2005, 02:29 PM

I got OEM rear brake pads for under $30 and the OEM seals only ran me $7/each. I also had to replace the brake cylinders in the rears and that added about another $80 to the bill for the pair.
The dealerships just rape you since a solid reputable independent garage would have saved a person at least a couple hundred bucks.

toddowaddo · 10-30-2005, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwh91102

you sir have been

10-24-2005, 04:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jared Ajlouny Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 594	expect one good thing...you wont have to carry a wallet anymore cause you wont have anyhting to put in it.... __________________ 98 taco, 4x4, TRD, SR5, extended cab, v6. 3" on 32s (dd) 86 4runner 5spd SAS soon to be geared and locked! (CRAWLER) 2000 yamaha superjet setup for freestyle, cause thats just how i roll!

10-24-2005, 04:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
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10-24-2005, 05:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
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10-25-2005, 10:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,179	I'm having my rear seals done and I'm also getting front and rear shocks and coils installed and the damage including new rear shoes is under $700 from the Mitsubishi garage that sponsored me when I had my Eclipse. I'm sure the seals are solidly under $500. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

10-27-2005, 07:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bennito Contributing Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 824	Both inner and outer seals replaced here on both passenger and driver side, brake pads and machining the drums ran around 500. Call it a moment of weakness on the brake job, instead of doing it myself. Not sure if the following is good or bad. Maybe both. Two weaks later the driver side was leaking again. (of course that's bad) The upside was the shop replaced the seal and once again replaced the brake pads (though I think this time they just wiped out the drum) without so much as asking for cash. Not bad for a stealership. (they shouldn't have asked, but its a stealer) __________________ Ben - 97 sr5 - full of win.

10-24-2005, 05:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,110	Both seals blew. And, apparently, fluids make the shoes swell up, so were going to have that replaced too.

10-24-2005, 05:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,110	Unfortunately, yes. I ordered the parts to to the mod though, theyre coming in Wed, Ill install them then. The surgery appointment is Thursday.

10-25-2005, 07:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
bflooks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: boston, ma Posts: 614	savings? what savings?

10-27-2005, 04:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,110	Inner and Outer Axle seals, machining drums, new shoes, new fluid, and labor = $800 + Tax @ Toyota in Lancaster, MA.

10-28-2005, 08:59 PM	#13 (permalink)
toddowaddo Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Swansboro, NC Posts: 192	I'm glad I did this myself. $5.99 for the seal and $19.99 for brake shoes sure beats $500-800. An afternoon job if you have the space and tools. __________________ Todd 1994 4runner SR5 V-6 5 speed SDORI B/J Spacers FZJ 80 Coils/Rancho 5k's Pro Comp Panhard Drop Bracket JDM PIAA Lighting BFG MT's 33x10.50 2009 Toyota Yaris LB 2008 Honda Pilot EX-L 4wd 1996 Ducati 900SS CR

10-29-2005, 12:28 PM	#18 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,110	Replaced Rear Leaking Axle Seals Labor $240 2x O Rings $12.27 Each $24.54 Total 12 GLB PT Gear Lube $3.65 Each $43.80 Total 2x Oil Seals $12.87 Each $25.74 Total 1x Breather Plug $8.80 (Even though I asked them not to replace the breather since I was going to do the extension anyways) Rear Brake Service Labor $160 2x Brake Drums $113.79 Each $227.58 Total 1x Brake Cleaner $4.45 1x Rear Shoes Kit $73.13 Lube Disposal $10 Sales Tax $20.55 Grand Total $841.59 and 2 bottles of KY

10-29-2005, 01:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
bflooks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: boston, ma Posts: 614	doesn't help that they REPLACED the drums! that is where they got you. and the breather...why wouldn't they replace it? you told them not to, but how could they warranty the work when it was the breather that caused the problem in the first place?! i never would have let them do the work until i got a quote first. if you had done that, then you could have told them to turn down the old drums. actually...did they even replace the drums? you should look to see. if they didn't, then the also jipped you on the 2 bottles of ky you think you got.

10-29-2005, 01:50 PM	#21 (permalink)
Gangus2006 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Fitchburg, MA Posts: 1,110	Yes, I did check to see if the rear drums were replaced. Brand new (I checked for the cracks I put in it when I was trying to take them off) Apparently, the rear drums were "so soaked in oil it was impossible to machine them". When I brought the truck in they said they were going to look over the truck to see exactly why it was leaking, then call me with the quote. When they called with the $800+ tax quote, I told them I was going to take the truck home and find money for the repair, adn thats when they told me about the $80/hour diagnostics fee, and that they spent 3 hours finding the leak. Last edited by Gangus2006; 10-29-2005 at 01:54 PM.

10-29-2005, 02:11 PM	#22 (permalink)
bflooks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: boston, ma Posts: 614	that is insane! why would you ever do that?! you knew it was the seals you should really listen sometimes. could have saved some $$$$$. but that is all said and done now. glad the runner is fixed.

10-29-2005, 02:29 PM	#24 (permalink)
X-AWDriver Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Littleton,CO Posts: 10,179	I got OEM rear brake pads for under $30 and the OEM seals only ran me $7/each. I also had to replace the brake cylinders in the rears and that added about another $80 to the bill for the pair. The dealerships just rape you since a solid reputable independent garage would have saved a person at least a couple hundred bucks. __________________ '99 4Runner Highlander 4wd E-locker,rear diff and deckplate mod * 265/75/16 Nitto TerraGrapplers * Yakima Load Warrior rack * clear corners/signals * Tacoma skidplate * Silverstar lamps/fogs Alpine CDA-9831,Bazooka EL Series 250w amp,MTX 10" sub

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