sas'd22re

i have a fairly fresh 22re (6000kms) with o/s stainless valves, an rv cam and full rebuild kit. the motor runs great, but i still would like more power. ive been thinking about starting to collect parts to do a 7mge swap and when i have all of the parts ill do the swap as im not in dire need to do it. would the 7mge do the trick???......i have a sas'd 86 extra cab with 33"s, 4.88's. with the extra power and torque of the 7mge, do you think i would be able to run 35"s or 36"s and my 4.88's? i'd like to keep it all toyota, so im not doing a 350 or 5.0 swap

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934rnr

Should turn those tires no problem with a 7mge. Your going from 115 hp with a 22re to 200 hp with a 7mge. Gearing sounds fine. 4.88's or 4.56's is a good match for a 7mge.

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sas'd22re

Awsome, that's what I was thinking too. I definatly want to run 35"s or 36"s and didn't want to do the swap all for nothing. And yea, ill pretty much be doubling my horsepower andhave about 75ftlbs or torque so my 4.88's should be good. Thanks for the input

algranger

I was thinking about a 7m swap but i've been told you get very poor oil delivery off camber... it was something about the makeup of the oil pan i think

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gennro

Yes, its a very shallow oil pan and pickup. So off chamber situations could starve the engine of oil very quickly.

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UKMyers

Most people do a custom pan for that swap for that reason.

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algranger

Do you know what oil pan they run?

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sas'd22re

yea, which oil pan would be the one to use? im sure there are a few aftermarket ones out there. i have a metal fab friend that would make one for me.....just leave the flange/bolt pattern and an inch of metal all the way around and make the rest from sheet metal....wouldnt be too hard. what would you do about the sump...just get a deeper one from a??? or does the 7mge just not get enough oil off chamber no matter what? i dont know a ton about the 7mge motors....still have lots of reading to do on them so please bear with me

ckblum

Does anyone have any more info on this? The oil pan issues and stuff? Considering some engine swaps in the near future so just trying to do some research.

Adam F

read through http://www.supracharged.com/

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sas'd22re

i found a complete 89 supra with a fairly low km motor (the body is starting to go so its cheap) and i want to throw it in my truck. donor car is an auto. is this going to be a big deal in the swap? i know i havbe to swap the bellhousing and clutch related parts from an earlier supra, im just wondering about the car being an auto being an issue.
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ckblum

I found a Cressida for cheap. Are the Cressida's oil pan and stuff better for swapping into a stock 22re IFS truck? Can I used my 5 speed tranny? The car comes with an auto but I really wanna keep the 5 speed. Do the newer 6 speed trannies in the Tacoma's bolt up to 7mge's cause I found one for a decent price too.

ilovemyz

I will warn you any info you find on the internet is either bad info or a swap for a 2wd truck...ive done the 7mgte swap got pics posted up on here. It will fit without modding the front core support. Also be careful of your bell housing selection i needed to have a bell fabbed back half of the truck bell and front half of the r154 bell out of the supra needed to weld 2 throw out bearings together to get enough reach to accomodate the input shaft properly. My isue now is finding a clutch hydraulic system stout enough to depress the clutch pressure plate. Literally everything has to be fabricated, you will also need to keep the motor as close to the firewall as possible unless you want to cut the front core support and will need electric fans with a supra radiator. As far as oil presure goes, if you shim the oil pump spring with 3mm of washers you can bump your oil pressure up about 10-15 psi at idle which is good if your crawling like me. Motor mount brackets will need to be fabbed or cut off the frame and slid back about 5.5-6 inches due to the difference in location of mount points on the engine blocks. I mated the front half of the supra drive shaft with the rear section of the truck driveshaft at the carrier bearing - had to alter the carrier bearing and trans mounts also to accomodate the difference in engine mounting location. Power steering lines heater hoses, electric fuel pump the whole nine will need to be fabbed, the supra/cressida fuel pump will not fit in the opening for the fuel pickup in the tank. Inline trick flow from summit is what you will need and frame mount it. A/c compressor needs to go, it hits the frame on the drivers side. My motor is in and runs but cant drive the truck until i can get a stronger clutch hydraulic system from either a tundra if it will even work or an n/a slave cylinder from a supra n/a. Thats the last thing i need to do but i'll be honest its a real mofo and would not recomend anybody try it. I'm ase master and lexus certified technician and its been kicking my balls for 4 months. Lots of metal fab getting it in. ilovemyz@hotmail is my email i'm not on here much but if you have any questions ask. I got alot of bogus info from the websites some of these guys have up on the web spent alot more money than i needed to and wasted a ton of my time in the process

ckblum

Thanks for the info, I actually really appreciate and I think that officially turns me off any Supra engine swaps haha. I'm just gonna buy a Taco with the 3.4 in it, spend the money on the suspension instead of doing suspension and engine to my old truck. Not to mention less rust too.

ilovemyz

yeah i mean if you have your gearing right 100hp out of a 4cyl is fine, my 22r never gave me any problems crawling but i moved to texas so im gonna get into desert racing i think more than rock crawling so thats the route i decided to go, get a beast motor, its just been a huge pain in the balls

ckblum

Yea I don't really crawl either, more into trails and desert. But my motor is plenty for my suspension anyways, especially if I regear it I still don't think I'd ever use 5th.