3VZE to SR20DET swap?

Grunnen · 09-14-2009, 07:48 PM

Why not? 227hp/193ftlbs

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**Tofer** · 09-14-2009, 07:51 PM

what's it out of?!

hjkmotor · 09-14-2009, 08:00 PM

the sr20det is a turbo nissan engine. they r one of nissans most popular engines. popular drift engine.

my bro is swapping one into his 240sx. i always wanted to get a datsun 510 coupe and put a sr20det into it.

**Tofer** · 09-14-2009, 08:02 PM

got it... i know a guy who imports everything nissan... i can ask to find out how much a motor should go for.

hjkmotor · 09-14-2009, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofer

got it... i know a guy who imports everything nissan... i can ask to find out how much a motor should go for.

my bro got everything needed to swap one into his 240 for 2k which includes factory equipment from japan which is engine tranny ecu wiring harness etc nothing aftermarket tho but its from japan.

i personally would like to see one put in a truck but it will take a lot more than 2k. a lot harder to put one in a different manufacturers model

**Tofer** · 09-14-2009, 08:23 PM

The guy i know imports front clips from japan monthly it seems.. i guess he's pretty known in the nissan tuning world for the Northwest..

vital22re · 09-15-2009, 01:41 AM

if its 2wd .. i dont see too much trouble.. some custom mounts and a driveline..
but for 4wd.. probly not.

Grunnen · 09-15-2009, 07:31 AM

I know it would be an expensive swap. I just cant believe no1 has even considered it. A SR20DET can push 250-300hp with minor mods and it has the torque to match.

Im not exaclty considering the swap Im just curious. Why would it not work for 4wd? Just add another drive shaft. I know the biggest problem would be the ecu, wiring, and getting the adapter for the tranny. The ecu could be programmed and the adapter machined but the wiring would be a nightmare.

If weve mastered the 350 and Vortec swaps why not the SR20DET?

vital22re · 09-15-2009, 01:46 PM

you would have to make a custom bellhousing to use your current tranny and probly need a custom input shaft for the transmission to match up to the motor.. Other wise you can't just poof and add an extra drive shaft.

jeffbland · 09-15-2009, 03:46 PM

i was considering a supra swap and there is a guy locally who imports motors and he told me it would be cheaper and way lighter to run the nissan motor... but in order to keep my 4x4 he would import a tranny and tcase from a hardbody cause they bolt right up and still be cheaper than the supra motor that i wanted to run

i ended up going a completely different direction because of getting a freebee chevy motor... i do wish that i went with nissan for being such a small powerful motor

by the way.. this guy even puts these motors in bmw's... he has also put a 2jz motor in a 4x4 toyota pickup that ran 13 seconds in the 1/4 mile with 33's and stock gearing

85excab · 09-15-2009, 03:59 PM

if u do your research, i remember somthing about the nissans using an r series transmission that might let u keep your toyota tranny.
i'll do a little diggin and see what i can come up with

Grunnen · 09-15-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffbland

i was considering a supra swap and there is a guy locally who imports motors and he told me it would be cheaper and way lighter to run the nissan motor... but in order to keep my 4x4 he would import a tranny and tcase from a hardbody cause they bolt right up and still be cheaper than the supra motor that i wanted to run

i ended up going a completely different direction because of getting a freebee chevy motor... i do wish that i went with nissan for being such a small powerful motor

by the way.. this guy even puts these motors in bmw's... he has also put a 2jz motor in a 4x4 toyota pickup that ran 13 seconds in the 1/4 mile with 33's and stock gearing

so it has been considered. how about the wiring? only problem with that set up is it would kinda suck to have to use a nissan tcase and regear (probably). How much was he charging for engine/tcase/tranny?

85excab · 09-15-2009, 04:55 PM

i couldnt find anything, good luck with a custom bellhousing

DubVipers · 09-27-2009, 02:32 PM

Also include the MAJOR aftermarket support (think HKS, Greddy, etc.)
There's alot of engine support.

jeffbland · 09-29-2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grunnen

so it has been considered. how about the wiring? only problem with that set up is it would kinda suck to have to use a nissan tcase and regear (probably). How much was he charging for engine/tcase/tranny?

sorry it took so long to get back... he gave me a ballpark number of 6,000 for everything including labor of wiring and exhaust

vwfastg60 · 10-20-2009, 01:13 AM

Get the motor,trans, and run standalone management, Have a drive shaft made to fit and make the mounts. Swap done.

sr20's are nice motors. We had one in my brothers 240 it put down 475hp. 3rd gear the car would just go sideways.

The car wasn't even finished and he wrapped it around a light pole(was 15 in the rain)

I dont remember all the details but i know the car was dressed with all the jdm goodies, 180sx glass,tail lights, full remote controled tein coilovers, heads up display cluster, OEM silvia s15 lights and aftermaket fenders to match the widebody that never got to be installed, he had 3 turbos for it that he played with on the dyno trying to get the biggest #'s possible. this was 5-6years ago so all the details are foggy

fork · 10-20-2009, 03:34 AM

i would like to see this pulled off..

that would be pretty neat. ill have to subscribe in case you attempt it

ozziesironmanoffroad · 10-20-2009, 07:16 AM

sad what happened to that car, thing looked nice.
but honestly, NISSAN? go honda.. the V6 VTEC. hondas r WAY better and WAY more reliable than nissans. sorry i just have a pet peeve about nissans and oil leaks.
though if you do this swap, i will be subscribing.

theAuthority · 10-20-2009, 08:21 AM

why not get a supra motor ? Can pick up the motor and trans off ebay for $1400 ?

vwfastg60 · 10-20-2009, 10:21 AM

I always wanted to 2jztt my 2wd. Im thinking the firewall will need work to make it happen tho.

Grunnen · 10-20-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozziesironmanoffroad

sad what happened to that car, thing looked nice.
but honestly, NISSAN? go honda.. the V6 VTEC. hondas r WAY better and WAY more reliable than nissans. sorry i just have a pet peeve about nissans and oil leaks.
though if you do this swap, i will be subscribing.

uh im not big into hondas but isnt the only RWD car they make a S2000?

ozziesironmanoffroad · 10-20-2009, 12:37 PM

thats why you customize her

Outsane · 10-21-2009, 07:30 PM

They used to make the NSX

Grunnen · 10-22-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsane

They used to make the NSX

NSX and S2000 engines would be more than the 4runner is worth. Ill assume that the Honda Ridgeline truck is RWD but again expensive engines.

Outsane · 10-22-2009, 12:46 PM

nope not a great option..

I have seen pics of a NSX motor and suspension in the back of a CRX though..

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hjkmotor Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: dayton ohio Posts: 230	the sr20det is a turbo nissan engine. they r one of nissans most popular engines. popular drift engine. my bro is swapping one into his 240sx. i always wanted to get a datsun 510 coupe and put a sr20det into it. __________________ '88 4runner SR5, 5 spd, 3.slow engine: '93 3vze rebuild, ISR mod. suspension: rear lift shackles, procomp es1000 shocks wheels & tires: 31/10.50/r15 BFG a/ts on 15x8" aluminum rims armor: fabtech grill guard, custom rock sliders, bedliner two-tone extras: offroad lights up front, hi-lift, kenwood head unit, kinetic accesory battery, remote locks Avatar = 4runner on cover of grand theft auto =) -(the new DD) '91 eagle talon tsi awd turbo 5spd

09-14-2009, 08:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,908	got it... i know a guy who imports everything nissan... i can ask to find out how much a motor should go for. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

09-14-2009, 08:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,908	The guy i know imports front clips from japan monthly it seems.. i guess he's pretty known in the nissan tuning world for the Northwest.. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

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vital22re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kirkland washington Posts: 683	if its 2wd .. i dont see too much trouble.. some custom mounts and a driveline.. but for 4wd.. probly not. __________________ 92 toyota truck 3.4 5spd 4.56 gears magna flow cat and muffler2 1/4 piping isr mod to intake 1.5 bjsfront add a leafs and 2inch lift shackles rear rancho shocks all around sitting on 265/75/r16 nitto terra grapplers

09-15-2009, 07:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Grunnen Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 97	I know it would be an expensive swap. I just cant believe no1 has even considered it. A SR20DET can push 250-300hp with minor mods and it has the torque to match. Im not exaclty considering the swap Im just curious. Why would it not work for 4wd? Just add another drive shaft. I know the biggest problem would be the ecu, wiring, and getting the adapter for the tranny. The ecu could be programmed and the adapter machined but the wiring would be a nightmare. If weve mastered the 350 and Vortec swaps why not the SR20DET? __________________ '94 4Runner SR5 V6 4WD \| 4.88 \| Aisin manual hubs \| ISR mod \| 31x10.50 Cooper Discoverer H/T Last edited by Grunnen; 09-15-2009 at 07:33 AM.

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vital22re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kirkland washington Posts: 683	you would have to make a custom bellhousing to use your current tranny and probly need a custom input shaft for the transmission to match up to the motor.. Other wise you can't just poof and add an extra drive shaft. __________________ 92 toyota truck 3.4 5spd 4.56 gears magna flow cat and muffler2 1/4 piping isr mod to intake 1.5 bjsfront add a leafs and 2inch lift shackles rear rancho shocks all around sitting on 265/75/r16 nitto terra grapplers

09-15-2009, 03:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
jeffbland Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: twin falls idaho Posts: 16	i was considering a supra swap and there is a guy locally who imports motors and he told me it would be cheaper and way lighter to run the nissan motor... but in order to keep my 4x4 he would import a tranny and tcase from a hardbody cause they bolt right up and still be cheaper than the supra motor that i wanted to run i ended up going a completely different direction because of getting a freebee chevy motor... i do wish that i went with nissan for being such a small powerful motor by the way.. this guy even puts these motors in bmw's... he has also put a 2jz motor in a 4x4 toyota pickup that ran 13 seconds in the 1/4 mile with 33's and stock gearing Last edited by jeffbland; 09-15-2009 at 03:49 PM.

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85excab Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Grand Junction, Co Posts: 458	if u do your research, i remember somthing about the nissans using an r series transmission that might let u keep your toyota tranny. i'll do a little diggin and see what i can come up with __________________ i drive by brail. Rock Solid Motorsports http://www.rocksolidmotorsports.net/ http://www.lunatic4x4.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45

09-15-2009, 04:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
85excab Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Grand Junction, Co Posts: 458	i couldnt find anything, good luck with a custom bellhousing __________________ i drive by brail. Rock Solid Motorsports http://www.rocksolidmotorsports.net/ http://www.lunatic4x4.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45

09-27-2009, 02:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
DubVipers Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: wichita Posts: 5	Also include the MAJOR aftermarket support (think HKS, Greddy, etc.) There's alot of engine support. __________________ 94 DLX XCab 2WD RN90

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vwfastg60 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Longmont Colorado Posts: 726	Get the motor,trans, and run standalone management, Have a drive shaft made to fit and make the mounts. Swap done. sr20's are nice motors. We had one in my brothers 240 it put down 475hp. 3rd gear the car would just go sideways. The car wasn't even finished and he wrapped it around a light pole(was 15 in the rain) I dont remember all the details but i know the car was dressed with all the jdm goodies, 180sx glass,tail lights, full remote controled tein coilovers, heads up display cluster, OEM silvia s15 lights and aftermaket fenders to match the widebody that never got to be installed, he had 3 turbos for it that he played with on the dyno trying to get the biggest #'s possible. this was 5-6years ago so all the details are foggy __________________ 87 longbed, 3rz, tacoma dash, bobbed, SAS'ed, gears and more. My build----HERE More web wheeling- Just getting started so come join us Asphaltsux

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ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,677	sad what happened to that car, thing looked nice. but honestly, NISSAN? go honda.. the V6 VTEC. hondas r WAY better and WAY more reliable than nissans. sorry i just have a pet peeve about nissans and oil leaks. though if you do this swap, i will be subscribing. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

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ozziesironmanoffroad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 5,677	thats why you customize her __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22re, 1200 miles on the rebuild engine builder .268 cam pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

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Outsane Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 605	They used to make the NSX __________________ 1984 4runner - Photography

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Outsane Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 605	nope not a great option.. I have seen pics of a NSX motor and suspension in the back of a CRX though.. __________________ 1984 4runner - Photography

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