350 ?'s

mudwagon · 04-27-2008, 10:41 PM

the 22re i have is "Junk" so i would like to get a sbc350 for it! so i priced it and i can get an adapter from downey for around $417, i could make my own motor mounts, and get a 350 for around $250!... what else do i need? will the adapter kit have everything ill need? i just want to make the swap as easy as possible! oh and ill make my own exhaust!

Thanks for the help!

Danny-

ozziesironmanoffroad · 04-27-2008, 11:09 PM

its never as easy as it sounds... you'll find that out soon enough. you'll want to regear your axles, or that 350 will disintegrate them. and honestly, id put a stronger transmission in, i dont think a stock toy transmission will stand up to a 350 for long, especially if you've got a lead foot. it will also suck gas like crazy, i had a chevy with a 350, and that thing drank gas. on the freeway it got about 12mpg, and in the city it got about 8mpg. then again the truck was a 66 C10, and the engine was from a 71 camaro, but still. let me know how this goes, im thinking of doing a 350 swap sometime

Diesel_29 · 04-29-2008, 04:11 PM

Lots of bad information is thrown around about V8 swaps. Personally, I've helped do 3 swaps myself, 2 302 5.0's, and a Tundra 4.7 into a 92 Yoter. While it's not a direct bolt-in job...it's not rocket science, either. Sorry for all the long post here but some points are needed to be made.

-The biggest mistake that a lot of people make is trying to use Toyo trannies and rear ends with these motors. Toyota makes tough as nails parts...but they're NOT built to handle the HP and TQ that a V8 gives. Some people don't like it since it's not Toyota parts, but I would rather have something in that can handle the abuse. But, if you're a Yoter freak and just have to have Toyota parts...find yourself a R-151F, and don't go taking off like you're in the NHRA National Championship or some ...and it might last. The 8.8" rear end is around the same strength as a D44....so you're in better shape there, but then again...better safe, then sorry.

-Cooling is a bitch. But can be done while retaining the AC. Really, it depends on the motor you use. I will talk more about this if I'm asked.

-Frame reinforcement. Demello makes some...you can box the rear. Not completely necessary...but...well I won't say it again.

-You will more than likely need yourself some custom headers and exhaust.

Also, try to get a COMPLETE motor. Harness, computer...everything. Another thing that people try to do is try to use Toyota wiring, and Toyota this and that with a donor engine...that's all fine and dandy but you have to buy adapters for everything and it just ends up being a pain in the ass to deal with.

--If you can wait...either at the end of May or June I'm SAS'ing and swapping a stroker motor into my '00 Taco. The exact motor choice is still yet undecided

...but I'm leaning towards a LS2 Iron block 408...should be putting over 500 RWHP, ~530 TQ. I may also go with an aluminum or iron block 418 or 427...it just all depends.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 04-29-2008, 04:22 PM

a 418 or 427 into a taco??? have fun and good luck.... you are GONNA need it

Diesel_29 · 04-29-2008, 04:40 PM

Well, it just all depends on how you look at it. A lot of people think I've done jumped off the looney bin a time or two when I mention the idea...but 2 out of 3 times, that's because they think I'm trying to swap a Big Block in. Which is the time where I think they've jumped off the looney bin themselves.

ozziesironmanoffroad · 04-29-2008, 04:41 PM

thats what i thought... a big block in a taco??? that guy must be out of his mind... lol.

Adam F · 05-02-2008, 04:54 PM

I'm getting ready to start my 350 swap tomorrow. I finally got all my parts.

A couple things you have to figure out first. Do you want to keep the toy trans and transfer, or chevy stuff? Keeping the toy stuff will let you keep your stock driveline (if you work it right) Youll have a better gear ratio too, since most chevy trans/transfer have a higher gear reduction. If you want 5 speed, use a R150 V6 trans. You'll have to get a new pressure plate and custom clutch plate, about $300 for those. Bellhousing adapter can be had for $350 (Advance Adapters from www.rockbuggysupply.com)

TOYOTA 1 · 05-02-2008, 05:13 PM

i had an 86 standard cab with a mild built 350 and it was so much fun, i used a turbo 350/205 combo it worked great i used a short water pump and a 2core cross flow radiator, never over heated. the gearing was ok but i had 33" tires. the toyota running gear will not just explode. it holds up well. dont get me wrong i broke like 3 rear 4:10 3rds. but i was abusing them bad!2nd gear huge power brakes on dry pavement over and over.

punkindrublic721 · 10-18-2008, 01:25 AM

theres a company out of bellingham,wa that specializes in v-8in toyotas... northwestoffroad.com they got everything you need

DudeBud · 10-18-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkindrublic721

theres a company out of bellingham,wa that specializes in v-8in toyotas... northwestoffroad.com they got everything you need

we all know about NO WARRANTIES OR RETURNS.. advanced adapters has more of a selection and way better customer service

Yodaforce · 10-18-2008, 04:34 PM

Been there, done it. Easy swap with the adaptor kit (motor mounts, tranny x-member, etc...). I used a pusher electric fan out front to help with pulley clearance and to keep the distributor out of the firewall. Ran a Toy tranny with one for years with 42's and stock diffs. No problems but I didn't do burnouts or hardcore off-roading, just deep muddy pits in the swamp. My best decision was to keep the sbc simple...mild RV cam, 600cfm, longtube headers....maybe only about 250hp. If you go with most stock sbc's, you'll probably only push 175-225hp anyhow.

TrikeKid · 10-20-2008, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkindrublic721

theres a company out of bellingham,wa that specializes in v-8in toyotas... northwestoffroad.com they got everything you need

They over price their crap, have crap customer service and at least the parts of theirs that I had were crap quality too. You advertise for them like you work there or something.

04-27-2008, 10:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
mudwagon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waukesha, WI Posts: 2	350 ?'s the 22re i have is "Junk" so i would like to get a sbc350 for it! so i priced it and i can get an adapter from downey for around $417, i could make my own motor mounts, and get a 350 for around $250!... what else do i need? will the adapter kit have everything ill need? i just want to make the swap as easy as possible! oh and ill make my own exhaust! Thanks for the help! Danny-

04-27-2008, 11:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 4,091	its never as easy as it sounds... you'll find that out soon enough. you'll want to regear your axles, or that 350 will disintegrate them. and honestly, id put a stronger transmission in, i dont think a stock toy transmission will stand up to a 350 for long, especially if you've got a lead foot. it will also suck gas like crazy, i had a chevy with a 350, and that thing drank gas. on the freeway it got about 12mpg, and in the city it got about 8mpg. then again the truck was a 66 C10, and the engine was from a 71 camaro, but still. let me know how this goes, im thinking of doing a 350 swap sometime __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22RE 258,000 miles on original motor pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

04-29-2008, 04:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Diesel_29 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rome, GA Posts: 7	Lots of bad information is thrown around about V8 swaps. Personally, I've helped do 3 swaps myself, 2 302 5.0's, and a Tundra 4.7 into a 92 Yoter. While it's not a direct bolt-in job...it's not rocket science, either. Sorry for all the long post here but some points are needed to be made. -The biggest mistake that a lot of people make is trying to use Toyo trannies and rear ends with these motors. Toyota makes tough as nails parts...but they're NOT built to handle the HP and TQ that a V8 gives. Some people don't like it since it's not Toyota parts, but I would rather have something in that can handle the abuse. But, if you're a Yoter freak and just have to have Toyota parts...find yourself a R-151F, and don't go taking off like you're in the NHRA National Championship or some ...and it might last. The 8.8" rear end is around the same strength as a D44....so you're in better shape there, but then again...better safe, then sorry. -Cooling is a bitch. But can be done while retaining the AC. Really, it depends on the motor you use. I will talk more about this if I'm asked. -Frame reinforcement. Demello makes some...you can box the rear. Not completely necessary...but...well I won't say it again. -You will more than likely need yourself some custom headers and exhaust. Also, try to get a COMPLETE motor. Harness, computer...everything. Another thing that people try to do is try to use Toyota wiring, and Toyota this and that with a donor engine...that's all fine and dandy but you have to buy adapters for everything and it just ends up being a pain in the ass to deal with. --If you can wait...either at the end of May or June I'm SAS'ing and swapping a stroker motor into my '00 Taco. The exact motor choice is still yet undecided ...but I'm leaning towards a LS2 Iron block 408...should be putting over 500 RWHP, ~530 TQ. I may also go with an aluminum or iron block 418 or 427...it just all depends. __________________ Pure Bliss

04-29-2008, 04:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 4,091	a 418 or 427 into a taco??? have fun and good luck.... you are GONNA need it __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22RE 258,000 miles on original motor pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

04-29-2008, 04:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Diesel_29 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rome, GA Posts: 7	Well, it just all depends on how you look at it. A lot of people think I've done jumped off the looney bin a time or two when I mention the idea...but 2 out of 3 times, that's because they think I'm trying to swap a Big Block in. Which is the time where I think they've jumped off the looney bin themselves. __________________ Pure Bliss

04-29-2008, 04:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
ozziesironmanoffroad Contributing Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Spring Valley, CA Posts: 4,091	thats what i thought... a big block in a taco??? that guy must be out of his mind... lol. __________________ The 22r series engines are made from the fires of hell, and will fight tooth and nail to not be sent back. 1988 Toyota P/U 4x4 22RE 258,000 miles on original motor pioneer CD deck 31x10.50x15 BFG A/T BAJA 100W lights on prerunner bumper KC Daylighters 100W rancho rs5000 MUD IS A VALID PAINT JOB! If not living life to the fullest, why live it? my trucks official buildup thread

05-02-2008, 04:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 1,978	I'm getting ready to start my 350 swap tomorrow. I finally got all my parts. A couple things you have to figure out first. Do you want to keep the toy trans and transfer, or chevy stuff? Keeping the toy stuff will let you keep your stock driveline (if you work it right) Youll have a better gear ratio too, since most chevy trans/transfer have a higher gear reduction. If you want 5 speed, use a R150 V6 trans. You'll have to get a new pressure plate and custom clutch plate, about $300 for those. Bellhousing adapter can be had for $350 (Advance Adapters from www.rockbuggysupply.com) __________________ Parting out 3vze V6, click for details 88 4Runner. In process of V8 swap

05-02-2008, 05:13 PM	#8 (permalink)
TOYOTA 1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: oregon Posts: 1,180	i had an 86 standard cab with a mild built 350 and it was so much fun, i used a turbo 350/205 combo it worked great i used a short water pump and a 2core cross flow radiator, never over heated. the gearing was ok but i had 33" tires. the toyota running gear will not just explode. it holds up well. dont get me wrong i broke like 3 rear 4:10 3rds. but i was abusing them bad!2nd gear huge power brakes on dry pavement over and over. __________________ 91 Toyota stdrd cab short bed 22re 5spd. sas'ed, Yukon 5:29's. 3.5" tuff country e-z ride springs in the front. 5" allpro long travels in the rear. pro comp es 9000 shocks, 12" tg long spline front d shaft. k&n, 35x10.50x15 boggers. cobra cb/ashtray mod, 3' fire stick. etc. 2000 Toyota Tacoma xtra cab sr5, 3"revtek,285/70/17 coopers stt, clear tails, injen short ram intake, obx header, flow master, etc. 2001 Toyota Camry, the girlfriends, www.22re.com

10-18-2008, 01:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
punkindrublic721 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: graham,wa Posts: 26	theres a company out of bellingham,wa that specializes in v-8in toyotas... northwestoffroad.com they got everything you need

10-18-2008, 04:34 PM	#11 (permalink)
Yodaforce Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West NC Posts: 235	Been there, done it. Easy swap with the adaptor kit (motor mounts, tranny x-member, etc...). I used a pusher electric fan out front to help with pulley clearance and to keep the distributor out of the firewall. Ran a Toy tranny with one for years with 42's and stock diffs. No problems but I didn't do burnouts or hardcore off-roading, just deep muddy pits in the swamp. My best decision was to keep the sbc simple...mild RV cam, 600cfm, longtube headers....maybe only about 250hp. If you go with most stock sbc's, you'll probably only push 175-225hp anyhow. __________________ "That's all I have to say about that." -Forrest Gump

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