Recovery Techniques and things to know

Chapman88SR5 · 10-24-2007, 06:28 AM

Winter is coming up and I know a lot of us like to help others out by pulling their little cars out of the snow. So I thought it would be a good idea to post some techniques and other things people should know before they jump in and try and save someones day.

Ill start...

Keep it in 4lo (learned that the hard way once)

WFO · 10-24-2007, 06:42 AM

Its really not a good idea to pull someone out thats stuck on the side of the road. If its a buddy thats one thing but if its a stranger its not a good idea. If your strap, chain or whatever youre using was to break and damage their car or yours youre gonna have some problems. I think its even illegal in some states. Your better off just helping them out by letting them use your phone or getting a tow truck for them.

razrwild · 10-24-2007, 06:53 AM

i'll say i'm a little hesitant to help people out on the side of the road as far as recovery, but I also know how badly it sucks to be stuck on the side of the road and no one will help you.
Make sure you are tied into a solid point on their vehicle and I'd advise against using chains for the breakage/damage factor

Chapman88SR5 · 10-24-2007, 07:20 AM

I agree on the no chain, i use a strap and sometimes two (of the same length). I was wondering about the liability issues if something happend to their car. What if you had them sign something? Ha like all of us carry little contracts in our trucks but just an idea for those who are in areas that get tons of snow.

I also have a shovel mounted to my rollbar (first gen) so i could dig them out if i was worried about pulling them out.

razrwild · 10-24-2007, 07:25 AM

well as far as liability, look at all the frivolous lawsuits and the sue happy people these days. Just make a judgment call on if the people are stuck worse than you can safely extract them or if you should help them at all. Most of those homegrown contracts don't hold up in court so that's a gamble

stormin94 · 10-24-2007, 10:38 PM

Well, since I won that towrope from Winchline.com, I suppose I'll be using that. That thing is a brute. 25,000 pound breaking strength.

tc · 10-25-2007, 03:39 PM

I don't "rescue" anyone that doesn't have tow points - which seems to be just about every domestic car on the road these days. Or at least the drivers don't know where they are ...

I think the Good Samaritan laws will cover you in just about any incident of this nature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law

881stGenRunner · 10-25-2007, 03:49 PM

whenever recovering anyone, whether off or on road, always have them tie up their own vehicle. you give them their end and you take yours. tell them that you didnt hook it up or tell them where to hook it up so you are not liable.

Chapman88SR5 · 10-25-2007, 05:26 PM

All good ideas, thanks guys. I'm not guna lie, I enjoy pulling people out, but on the other hand I would hate being stuck there and having to pay a tow truck lots of money to pull me out only to get stuck again another day or even down the road.

razrwild · 10-25-2007, 10:30 PM

i've changed my mind, i'm never pulling anyone out of being stuck ever again. If I see someone stuck I'm just going to tell them that they should buy a half-track lol

dlbrunner · 10-26-2007, 01:26 PM

Towing a car out is like rock climbing. Make your own attachment and have the other person check it. and vice versa.

CyMoN · 10-26-2007, 01:35 PM

i have helped people out many times but I never tell them my name either I pull them out pack up my stuff and be on my way.

spanish-road · 10-31-2007, 02:21 PM

yep the old hit and run method I take part in that art, Well if you ask them if they need help then its all good so use good judgment in help. When i worked at a ski hill i pulled people out all the time, i used a tow strap and gave small tugs to get people out. One thing to avoid is gas tank tie-downs do not use them. A friend ripped off someones gas tank on a beach trying to get them out of the surf.

StuntManFox · 11-27-2007, 11:43 AM

Over the past winter when i first got my 4 runner. i have more recoveries under my belt than i ever thought was possible.. Snow, Mud anything.. I only had to get towed out of a bad situation when I had my truck teetering sideways at the top of a 30 foot gultch

In hindsight it was pretty funny..

bigchris · 11-27-2007, 12:33 PM

dont forget safety above all else. I was behind a buddy flat towing an old fj40 and the roads flash froze with black ice from snow that had been previously melting. He spun out in front of me and so did a few other vehicles, We got him straightened out and started pushing and pulling out others when it just became unsafe. people losing it a hundred yards away and almost crashing into us. even the salt truck spun out. Just be very aware of your surroundings!!

Justinvd · 11-27-2007, 12:40 PM

Ive seen buddies get stuck trying to pull out other vehicles. wich renders both vehicles useless. Make sure you can tow them out without damaging your truck or getting stuck. Usually your best bet is too give them a lift to to a phone or towing service.

avryco · 03-23-2008, 02:12 PM

I was so proud...i pulled a big ass chevy out of a snow filled ditch...dude gave me twenty bucks...sweet gas money!!!

shaeff · 03-25-2008, 05:19 PM

The last storm we had here was about 2 months ago, maybe a bit less. On my way home from a diner in a pretty big storm, I saw some high school seniors (all girls, all really cute, too

) stuck in a ditch. The car was pretty buried.
One of them was on the phone with her dad. He didn't "know what to do". I told them to hang up, and I'd gladly help them out. My girlfriend got out and set a flare for me to warn oncoming traffic.

SO many people passed these poor girls. I felt so bad! Most of the trucks just passing by were full sized Chevys, Fords, Dodges, etc..
I hooked up my tow strap to the recovery hook on their car, connected the other end securely to my truck, 4-lo, pulled them right out. Not a problem.

They tried to pay me, but I refused. It wasn't that much trouble, really, and perhaps the karma will come back to me.

I always stop and offer a hand to people, regardless of whether or not it's changing a tire, pulling them out, or helping to diagnose engine failure/electrical problems.

dirtoyboy · 05-26-2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 881stGenRunner

whenever recovering anyone, whether off or on road, always have them tie up their own vehicle. you give them their end and you take yours. tell them that you didnt hook it up or tell them where to hook it up so you are not liable.

Bad idea........

Most "car owners" dont know the first thing about recovering a vehicle...let alone where thier tow points are. This can be VERY unsafe

I would recommend reading this and passing it along to any other wheelers you know

Billavistas Recovery Bible
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Recovery/

SR5 · 09-19-2008, 10:53 PM

I always help people on the side of the road, dose not matter what season it is
but thats just me

10-24-2007, 06:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Chapman88SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,481	Recovery Techniques and things to know Winter is coming up and I know a lot of us like to help others out by pulling their little cars out of the snow. So I thought it would be a good idea to post some techniques and other things people should know before they jump in and try and save someones day. Ill start... Keep it in 4lo (learned that the hard way once) __________________ *1988 4Runner* 3.Slow -33x12.5 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ Radials -4Crawler 1.5" BJ Spacers -OME 2" Leaf Springs -Flowmaster 44 -Engine replaced at 200k -Green Rattle can paint The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese. Hmmm... See more in the** Check out my Truck section God works through Christians; I am a Christian. -George W. Bush

10-24-2007, 06:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
razrwild Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: dirty jersey Posts: 240	i'll say i'm a little hesitant to help people out on the side of the road as far as recovery, but I also know how badly it sucks to be stuck on the side of the road and no one will help you. Make sure you are tied into a solid point on their vehicle and I'd advise against using chains for the breakage/damage factor __________________ 89 4runner 22re 5spd bone stock 224k miles DD

10-24-2007, 07:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
Chapman88SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,481	I agree on the no chain, i use a strap and sometimes two (of the same length). I was wondering about the liability issues if something happend to their car. What if you had them sign something? Ha like all of us carry little contracts in our trucks but just an idea for those who are in areas that get tons of snow. I also have a shovel mounted to my rollbar (first gen) so i could dig them out if i was worried about pulling them out. __________________ *1988 4Runner* 3.Slow -33x12.5 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ Radials -4Crawler 1.5" BJ Spacers -OME 2" Leaf Springs -Flowmaster 44 -Engine replaced at 200k -Green Rattle can paint The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese. Hmmm... See more in the** Check out my Truck section God works through Christians; I am a Christian. -George W. Bush Last edited by Chapman88SR5 : 10-24-2007 at 07:21 AM.

10-24-2007, 07:25 AM	#5 (permalink)
razrwild Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: dirty jersey Posts: 240	well as far as liability, look at all the frivolous lawsuits and the sue happy people these days. Just make a judgment call on if the people are stuck worse than you can safely extract them or if you should help them at all. Most of those homegrown contracts don't hold up in court so that's a gamble __________________ 89 4runner 22re 5spd bone stock 224k miles DD

10-24-2007, 10:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,276	Well, since I won that towrope from Winchline.com, I suppose I'll be using that. That thing is a brute. 25,000 pound breaking strength. __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 208,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 14/19 MPG city/hwy(before 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

10-24-2007, 06:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
WFO Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 446	Its really not a good idea to pull someone out thats stuck on the side of the road. If its a buddy thats one thing but if its a stranger its not a good idea. If your strap, chain or whatever youre using was to break and damage their car or yours youre gonna have some problems. I think its even illegal in some states. Your better off just helping them out by letting them use your phone or getting a tow truck for them.

10-25-2007, 03:39 PM	#7 (permalink)
tc Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 6,813	I don't "rescue" anyone that doesn't have tow points - which seems to be just about every domestic car on the road these days. Or at least the drivers don't know where they are ... I think the Good Samaritan laws will cover you in just about any incident of this nature. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law __________________ Check out www.coTTORA.org to hook up with great Toyota 'wheelin' folks! Current - 93 4Runner: 3VZ 33"x10.50" no lift ARB F/R 96 Impala SS: My own personal cop car Previous - 89 2WD Pickup 22R, Fabtech "Ivan Dan" lift, 31x10.50, IASCA World Finals 4th Place Stop with the mods and get on the trail! Pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

10-25-2007, 03:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
881stGenRunner Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newnan, GA Posts: 2,084	whenever recovering anyone, whether off or on road, always have them tie up their own vehicle. you give them their end and you take yours. tell them that you didnt hook it up or tell them where to hook it up so you are not liable. __________________ -Brandon 1988 4Runner SR5 4x4 V6 5 Speed Swap SDORI 1.5" BJ Spacers~Downey 26MM TBs~Downey 3" Springs~Downey Shackles~PC ES3000s~PC ES2000 SS~Motive Gear 5.29s~Rear Detroit~Front Lock-Rite~Yakima Load Warrior~33x12.5R15 Yoko Geolander M/Ts~Cragar 15x8 Streetlocks~Cobra 18 WXSTII~3' Firestik II~Marlin Crawler rear~Custom Front~4X Innovations Sliders~WabFab Bikini Kit~Optima Yellow Top~SS IFS Truss. My 4Runner and Other Stuff

10-25-2007, 05:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Chapman88SR5 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,481	All good ideas, thanks guys. I'm not guna lie, I enjoy pulling people out, but on the other hand I would hate being stuck there and having to pay a tow truck lots of money to pull me out only to get stuck again another day or even down the road. __________________ *1988 4Runner* 3.Slow -33x12.5 Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ Radials -4Crawler 1.5" BJ Spacers -OME 2" Leaf Springs -Flowmaster 44 -Engine replaced at 200k -Green Rattle can paint The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese. Hmmm... See more in the** Check out my Truck section God works through Christians; I am a Christian. -George W. Bush

10-25-2007, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
razrwild Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: dirty jersey Posts: 240	i've changed my mind, i'm never pulling anyone out of being stuck ever again. If I see someone stuck I'm just going to tell them that they should buy a half-track lol __________________ 89 4runner 22re 5spd bone stock 224k miles DD

10-26-2007, 01:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
dlbrunner Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,118	Towing a car out is like rock climbing. Make your own attachment and have the other person check it. and vice versa. __________________ Duncan -------------------------------------------------- Current: 95 4X4 SR5 V6, Yakima tracks/rack installed. Aisin hubs. Sonoran Steel IFS Truss. Cobra CB(finally!) Desired: 66 FJ45 shorty EX's: 89 4X4 V6 Downey'd 72 FJ40 W 350/SM465 powertrax, "Billy"

10-26-2007, 01:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
CyMoN Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: INDIANA Posts: 2,040	i have helped people out many times but I never tell them my name either I pull them out pack up my stuff and be on my way. __________________ my rigs 89 4runner 1989 4runner v6 5 speed everything factory +4susplift running bfg 31s and a aux gas tank and more aux lights than needed 86 pickup 1986 stock pickup 22r 31.10 BFG ATs flatbed a sad day for the 4runner "One moment of patience may ward off great disaster. One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life."

10-31-2007, 02:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
spanish-road Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairbanks,AK Posts: 407	yep the old hit and run method I take part in that art, Well if you ask them if they need help then its all good so use good judgment in help. When i worked at a ski hill i pulled people out all the time, i used a tow strap and gave small tugs to get people out. One thing to avoid is gas tank tie-downs do not use them. A friend ripped off someones gas tank on a beach trying to get them out of the surf. __________________ 1991 toyota pickup extcab- 22re 31x10.5x15 bone stock except for the RV cam and tires.

11-27-2007, 11:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
StuntManFox Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 77	Over the past winter when i first got my 4 runner. i have more recoveries under my belt than i ever thought was possible.. Snow, Mud anything.. I only had to get towed out of a bad situation when I had my truck teetering sideways at the top of a 30 foot gultch In hindsight it was pretty funny.. __________________ 1994 4Runner SR5 4x4 5 speed Rolls on 31X10.50x15 meats on Aluminum Rally wheels Inhales through a K&N Exhales through a Flowmaster 50 Series Bumps sounds through JL Audio speakers Sees all at night with retardedly big foglights Future plans OME Rear coils Body Lift Bud Built Skidplate Marlin Crawler rear bumper TJM Front bumper

11-27-2007, 12:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
bigchris Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 15	dont forget safety above all else. I was behind a buddy flat towing an old fj40 and the roads flash froze with black ice from snow that had been previously melting. He spun out in front of me and so did a few other vehicles, We got him straightened out and started pushing and pulling out others when it just became unsafe. people losing it a hundred yards away and almost crashing into us. even the salt truck spun out. Just be very aware of your surroundings!!

11-27-2007, 12:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
Justinvd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: B.C Posts: 631	Ive seen buddies get stuck trying to pull out other vehicles. wich renders both vehicles useless. Make sure you can tow them out without damaging your truck or getting stuck. Usually your best bet is too give them a lift to to a phone or towing service.

03-23-2008, 02:12 PM	#17 (permalink)
avryco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Palmer Lake, Colorado Posts: 44	I was so proud...i pulled a big ass chevy out of a snow filled ditch...dude gave me twenty bucks...sweet gas money!!! __________________ 2000 Tacoma Prerunner 2.7L 4 Banger Auto Tranny Looking for a lift Also looking for Subs 88,000 Miles and 2 yrs of warranty!!!

03-25-2008, 05:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
shaeff Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: near Kingston, NY Posts: 233	The last storm we had here was about 2 months ago, maybe a bit less. On my way home from a diner in a pretty big storm, I saw some high school seniors (all girls, all really cute, too) stuck in a ditch. The car was pretty buried. One of them was on the phone with her dad. He didn't "know what to do". I told them to hang up, and I'd gladly help them out. My girlfriend got out and set a flare for me to warn oncoming traffic. SO many people passed these poor girls. I felt so bad! Most of the trucks just passing by were full sized Chevys, Fords, Dodges, etc.. I hooked up my tow strap to the recovery hook on their car, connected the other end securely to my truck, 4-lo, pulled them right out. Not a problem. They tried to pay me, but I refused. It wasn't that much trouble, really, and perhaps the karma will come back to me. I always stop and offer a hand to people, regardless of whether or not it's changing a tire, pulling them out, or helping to diagnose engine failure/electrical problems. __________________ My heatercore replacement writeup with pics. '94 Toyota 4x4, 22re, 31x10.5 BFG mt's, 5 speed, HID bixenon headlights, e-code housings, HID hella 550 fogs. to be 7mgte swapped. MKIII Toyota Supra owner and enthusiast

09-19-2008, 10:53 PM	#20 (permalink)
SR5 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 395	I always help people on the side of the road, dose not matter what season it is but thats just me __________________ 1995 SR5 V6 4Runner SR5 Profile \|31x10.50 BFG All Terrain\|Diff Breather Front, Rear\|Low Profile bump stops\|Blue LED Dash\|Japan Running Lights\|Alpine Deck\|Custom 6.25 Sony