Straight Front or No Straight Front?

hayn4x4 · 08-08-2008, 05:15 PM

Hey guys need help making a decision. Long story short i either need to change my lift kit on my IFS 4runner or do a straight front conversion. Right now i have a trail master kit on my 4runner which sucks ass. If i change the kit and leave it IFS i will be changing it to a Fabtech kit. I dont what would be better. Money is not a issue. Im more concerned with the ride of the truck and maintanence. I know that the maintenance on a lifted IFS truck needs to be done often. (CV joints, CV boots, Axles, rack and pinion, etc.) but i also have been told that the ride on a straight front sucks. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

JamesD · 08-08-2008, 05:19 PM

As we tell everyone here with the question you have, how much wheeling are you going to do, what type of wheeling and is this going to be a daily driver? The IFS will give you a better ride period. If you plan to "flex" your trucks suspension, then a SAS is what you need.

James

AxleIke · 08-08-2008, 05:56 PM

If money is not an issue, swap it.

The ride of your truck will be determined directly by how much research you do and how good of a job you do.

Can an improperly set up straight axle truck ride like garbage and be potentially dangerous? Absolutely.

Can a properly set up swapped truck ride like a dream, be functional and extremely strong? Absolutely.

ORS makes the kit you need: It says it is for tacoma, but talk to them on the phone, and they can help you make it work for the 4runner, since you have the same drivetrain.

http://www.offroadsolutions.com/prod...ilover_systems

Maintenance will be similar. You just have to maintenance different stuff. Both systems require work to keep them running well. FWIW, I have 300k on one of my original CV's. Still running strong. Not sure how "often" you thought you needed to change them, but its not very.

If you do the swap right, your breakage will go down significantly.

hayn4x4 · 08-08-2008, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

If money is not an issue, swap it.

The ride of your truck will be determined directly by how much research you do and how good of a job you do.

Can an improperly set up straight axle truck ride like garbage and be potentially dangerous? Absolutely.

Can a properly set up swapped truck ride like a dream, be functional and extremely strong? Absolutely.

ORS makes the kit you need: It says it is for tacoma, but talk to them on the phone, and they can help you make it work for the 4runner, since you have the same drivetrain.

[urlhttp://www.offroadsolutions.com/products/suspension.htm#tacoma_coilover_systems[/url]

Maintenance will be similar. You just have to maintenance different stuff. Both systems require work to keep them running well. FWIW, I have 300k on one of my original CV's. Still running strong. Not sure how "often" you thought you needed to change them, but its not very.

If you do the swap right, your breakage will go down significantly.

A off-road shop here in hawaii will be doing the swap. They are very good. maybe a picture of my truck will help you guys have more of an idea.

89silverpu · 08-08-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayn4x4

A off-road shop here in hawaii will be doing the swap. They are very good. maybe a picture of my truck will help you guys have more of an idea.

so you definitely don't use your 4runner off road is what your telling us...

AxleIke · 08-08-2008, 07:42 PM

Different strokes for different folks. His truck, he can build it as he chooses.

Swap will set you back, but it'll be worth it. You'll be able to run much larger tires.

bigt · 08-08-2008, 08:59 PM

how can you offroad in hawaii its all beaches

coolthew · 08-08-2008, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt

how can you offroad in hawaii its all beaches

Lava flows dude!

coolthew · 08-08-2008, 11:25 PM

AxleIke made a great suggestion. The ORS coilover has a similar-to-stock street ride quality. So says my magazines.

I would love to see someone do that swap

hayn4x4 · 08-09-2008, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt

how can you offroad in hawaii its all beaches

We go on the beaches. But we also have valleys, mountains, trails, etc. Not too much rocky stuff though.

dirtoyboy · 08-10-2008, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayn4x4

A off-road shop here in hawaii will be doing the swap. They are very good. maybe a picture of my truck will help you guys have more of an idea.

this is a street truck! You have NO reason for a solid axle....save the parts for someone who will actually use them...

you ask for my opinion and Im gonna give it to ya straight up brah

hayn4x4 · 08-10-2008, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtoyboy

this is a street truck! You have NO reason for a solid axle....save the parts for someone who will actually use them...

you ask for my opinion and Im gonna give it to ya straight up brah

Why do you say its a "street truck"?

**Lysmachia** · 08-11-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AxleIke

If money is not an issue, swap it.

The ride of your truck will be determined directly by how much research you do and how good of a job you do.

Can an improperly set up straight axle truck ride like garbage and be potentially dangerous? Absolutely.

Can a properly set up swapped truck ride like a dream, be functional and extremely strong? Absolutely.

ORS makes the kit you need: It says it is for tacoma, but talk to them on the phone, and they can help you make it work for the 4runner, since you have the same drivetrain.

http://www.offroadsolutions.com/prod...ilover_systems

Maintenance will be similar. You just have to maintenance different stuff. Both systems require work to keep them running well. FWIW, I have 300k on one of my original CV's. Still running strong. Not sure how "often" you thought you needed to change them, but its not very.

If you do the swap right, your breakage will go down significantly.

Yup from an IFS guy he speaks the truth... but do realize there are many hidden costs in doing a swap

08-08-2008, 05:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
hayn4x4 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 21	Straight Front or No Straight Front? Hey guys need help making a decision. Long story short i either need to change my lift kit on my IFS 4runner or do a straight front conversion. Right now i have a trail master kit on my 4runner which sucks ass. If i change the kit and leave it IFS i will be changing it to a Fabtech kit. I dont what would be better. Money is not a issue. Im more concerned with the ride of the truck and maintanence. I know that the maintenance on a lifted IFS truck needs to be done often. (CV joints, CV boots, Axles, rack and pinion, etc.) but i also have been told that the ride on a straight front sucks. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

08-08-2008, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
JamesD Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 1,537	As we tell everyone here with the question you have, how much wheeling are you going to do, what type of wheeling and is this going to be a daily driver? The IFS will give you a better ride period. If you plan to "flex" your trucks suspension, then a SAS is what you need. James __________________ 2nd gen power mirrors for sale http://www.yotatech.com/f109/2nd-gen.../#post50746877 New Tacome V6 transfer case http://www.yotatech.com/f107/sale-br.../#post50755569 Various Toyota truck/4Runner switches for sale http://www.yotatech.com/f109/various...trucks-148139/

08-08-2008, 05:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,536	If money is not an issue, swap it. The ride of your truck will be determined directly by how much research you do and how good of a job you do. Can an improperly set up straight axle truck ride like garbage and be potentially dangerous? Absolutely. Can a properly set up swapped truck ride like a dream, be functional and extremely strong? Absolutely. ORS makes the kit you need: It says it is for tacoma, but talk to them on the phone, and they can help you make it work for the 4runner, since you have the same drivetrain. http://www.offroadsolutions.com/prod...ilover_systems Maintenance will be similar. You just have to maintenance different stuff. Both systems require work to keep them running well. FWIW, I have 300k on one of my original CV's. Still running strong. Not sure how "often" you thought you needed to change them, but its not very. If you do the swap right, your breakage will go down significantly. __________________ IFS SAS My mods aren't bling enough for the signature line. -All Terrains are for when you know how to drive. Last edited by AxleIke : 08-08-2008 at 05:58 PM.

08-08-2008, 07:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,536	Different strokes for different folks. His truck, he can build it as he chooses. Swap will set you back, but it'll be worth it. You'll be able to run much larger tires. __________________ IFS SAS My mods aren't bling enough for the signature line. -All Terrains are for when you know how to drive.

08-08-2008, 08:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 1,935	how can you offroad in hawaii its all beaches __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X 2-lte turbo diesel with upgraded head tons of cool options you dont get in north America RIGHT HAND DRIVE,auto,push button 4wd,turbo timer,31.1-.50.15 bfgs,factory fender flares,window flares. CAR DOLLY sirius TUNED TO HOWARD 100 trail ifs rig goldie fate unknown blue 93 srf 4runner NEW TRAIL RIG IN POGRESS ifs welded rear few mods for now rebuilding fj 60 series front axle for future s.a.s

08-08-2008, 11:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
coolthew Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Saratoga, California Posts: 55	AxleIke made a great suggestion. The ORS coilover has a similar-to-stock street ride quality. So says my magazines. I would love to see someone do that swap __________________ _Matt_ 1990 4Runner Black, 3VZ-E, 5-speed, BJ spacers & cruiser coils, locking hubs, CB

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