Jokeplayer's SFAC

JoKEpLaYeR · 06-19-2008, 01:17 PM

Due to an accident a few years back from a lower a-arm cam-bolt failure and wheeling the piss out of my IFS, it was finally time to put it to rest. And after 270,000 miles I don't blame it for being tired.

Before:

Axle Rebuild:

IFS falling off:

IFS removed:

Placing the spring hanger:

Done!

Today I'm gonna go bolt up the shocks and drive it home!

customcruiser · 06-19-2008, 01:25 PM

man..... thats the fastest sas ive ever seen

JoKEpLaYeR · 06-19-2008, 01:29 PM

I spent a week's worth of afternoons rebuilding the axle. The cutting and welding was a two day process.

JoKEpLaYeR · 06-21-2008, 03:52 PM

Ok, so the front is done but I haven't decided what to do about the rear...

I was looking at the Trail Gear 5" springs but I do a couple trips a year where I load up four people and a weeks worth of gear.... And from talking with UKMyers he sags a bit when he's loaded up. Another guy mentioned he runs 6" all-pro springs in the rear but with ~500lbs of gear he sags 1.5". I'm fully open to running Chevies if they will handle the weight and still flex well.

What's my best option? What are you running for rear springs to give you ~5" of lift?

Blizzard · 06-22-2008, 02:17 AM

I've 5'' Trail-Gear springs on my 4Runner and I loaded with near 600lbs once and they held pretty well. But I'm in the process of adding airbags to compensate the extra weight in the Africa trips (Dual tanks full, spare wheel, spare parts, fridge...).

You would need bigger tires!

David

JoKEpLaYeR · 06-22-2008, 07:57 AM

You guys get all the cool engine options! Do you have a thread going about the airbag setup?

I've got a set of 35x12.5x15 BFG MT's lined up - I'm trading my TV for them

Blizzard · 06-22-2008, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoKEpLaYeR

Do you have a thread going about the airbag setup?

Not yet because the airbags are taking an eternity to get here... As soon as I've pics I'll post them. I was able to find only one reference of an airbag capable of extending so much...

David

JoKEpLaYeR · 06-26-2008, 03:31 PM

Ok, I'll keep my eyes open for the airbag thread. I think I'm gonna end up going with the 5" Trail Gear springs and some Bilstein 5150's for the rear.

15.50_STOCK · 06-26-2008, 03:36 PM

Why not go Marlin HD 5" springs?

JoKEpLaYeR · 06-26-2008, 03:38 PM

Cause I hadn't even though about Marlin for suspension stuff! I'll look into it. Thanks!

15.50_STOCK · 06-26-2008, 03:40 PM

No prob.

Tacoclimber · 06-26-2008, 03:48 PM

Right on, Steve! Can't wait to see how it looks when the back's done, too.

However, I have to say that the brevity and simplicity of your first post may only further fuel the notions of those who think that an SAS is a quick and easy thing.

JoKEpLaYeR · 06-26-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoclimber

Right on, Steve! Can't wait to see how it looks when the back's done, too.

However, I have to say that the brevity and simplicity of your first post may only further fuel the notions of those who think that an SAS is a quick and easy thing.

You know, with the right tools and a couple friends it wasn't so bad. And having all the parts ready. The plasma cutter, professional drag-bike welder, and a friends snap-on equipped shop sure helped.

I spent a week of afternoon's after work cleaning and rebuilding the axle and then two full days doing the sas. It wasn't the end of the world.

I can't wait to get the rear up to match! Then I'll move on to adding that 2nd t-case that I've got sitting around. I don't want to deal with building drive shafts twice so I'm gonna wait until the 2nd case is in to measure and build. So for now it's 2wd and sitting really funny.

YeloSub7 · 07-30-2008, 04:37 PM

any progress???

JoKEpLaYeR · 09-23-2008, 09:27 PM

Progress: The front wiped me out.... so I took on a side job so that I could afford the rear lift and the associated welding. The rear kit will be getting ordered in the next week. I want to have it ready to run a Death Valley trip by the end of December!!! I'm going with the 5" Trail Gear kit.

A set of barely used BFG M/T 35's have been secured and are ready to get mounted once the rear is high enough to clear them.

RobG · 09-24-2008, 03:39 PM

Nice Axle swap.

I had a problem getting the rear leaf springs where I wanted them loaded and unloaded so I added some airbags. Really please at how well it works. Link

JoKEpLaYeR · 09-24-2008, 09:21 PM

Awesome!!! I'm gonna have to load up a weeks worth of camping gear and see how the new 5" springs hold the weight... I'll keep this in mind if they don't do so well.

88wildrunner · 10-08-2008, 10:47 PM

as for the sagging when loaded up, 1" sag i think should be expected. the rock crawling springs from marlin, trail gear all pro are made to be soft and flexy for articulation, and not really to be loaded with a few hundred pounds of gear and not be expected to sag, you would have to get really stiff springs to not sag at all, but then you loose flex.

06-19-2008, 01:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	Jokeplayer's SFAC Due to an accident a few years back from a lower a-arm cam-bolt failure and wheeling the piss out of my IFS, it was finally time to put it to rest. And after 270,000 miles I don't blame it for being tired. Before: Axle Rebuild: IFS falling off: IFS removed: Placing the spring hanger: Done! Today I'm gonna go bolt up the shocks and drive it home! __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

06-19-2008, 01:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
customcruiser Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Race City USA (Mooresville, NC - LKN) Posts: 680	man..... thats the fastest sas ive ever seen __________________ 94 4Runner Truggy 60/14B, 3Link w/18" Air Shox Chopped & Exo'd 42's on H1 Beadlocks Pirate4x4 Build Thread 03 Tundra Crawler Hauler/Baja DD 3" Lift, Fiberglass Fenders Prerunner Bumper, (3) 9" Lights

06-19-2008, 01:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	I spent a week's worth of afternoons rebuilding the axle. The cutting and welding was a two day process. __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

06-21-2008, 03:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	Ok, so the front is done but I haven't decided what to do about the rear... I was looking at the Trail Gear 5" springs but I do a couple trips a year where I load up four people and a weeks worth of gear.... And from talking with UKMyers he sags a bit when he's loaded up. Another guy mentioned he runs 6" all-pro springs in the rear but with ~500lbs of gear he sags 1.5". I'm fully open to running Chevies if they will handle the weight and still flex well. What's my best option? What are you running for rear springs to give you ~5" of lift? __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

06-22-2008, 02:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Blizzard Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Barcelona (Spain) Posts: 871	I've 5'' Trail-Gear springs on my 4Runner and I loaded with near 600lbs once and they held pretty well. But I'm in the process of adding airbags to compensate the extra weight in the Africa trips (Dual tanks full, spare wheel, spare parts, fridge...). You would need bigger tires! David __________________ '94 Toyota 4Runner 3.0 Turbo Diesel Intercooler – Trail-Gear 4'' SAS front, Trail-Gear 5'' rear leaves swap, 35x12.5x15 M/T's and too many things more to write...

06-22-2008, 07:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	You guys get all the cool engine options! Do you have a thread going about the airbag setup? I've got a set of 35x12.5x15 BFG MT's lined up - I'm trading my TV for them __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

06-26-2008, 03:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	Ok, I'll keep my eyes open for the airbag thread. I think I'm gonna end up going with the 5" Trail Gear springs and some Bilstein 5150's for the rear. __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

06-26-2008, 03:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
15.50_STOCK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern UT Posts: 101	Why not go Marlin HD 5" springs? __________________ 82 4x4 Pickup. Forsale in Southern UT $1100.

06-26-2008, 03:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	Cause I hadn't even though about Marlin for suspension stuff! I'll look into it. Thanks! __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

06-26-2008, 03:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
15.50_STOCK Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southern UT Posts: 101	No prob. __________________ 82 4x4 Pickup. Forsale in Southern UT $1100.

06-26-2008, 03:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
Tacoclimber Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Between a rock and a hard place, AZ Posts: 3,495	Right on, Steve! Can't wait to see how it looks when the back's done, too. However, I have to say that the brevity and simplicity of your first post may only further fuel the notions of those who think that an SAS is a quick and easy thing. __________________ CJ ...<>< 03 DC TRD Tacoma 4wd with a bunch of junk. Just wheel the stupid thing!!! But do it responsibly, ok?

07-30-2008, 04:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	any progress??? __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

09-23-2008, 09:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	Progress: The front wiped me out.... so I took on a side job so that I could afford the rear lift and the associated welding. The rear kit will be getting ordered in the next week. I want to have it ready to run a Death Valley trip by the end of December!!! I'm going with the 5" Trail Gear kit. A set of barely used BFG M/T 35's have been secured and are ready to get mounted once the rear is high enough to clear them. __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com Last edited by JoKEpLaYeR : 09-23-2008 at 09:33 PM.

09-24-2008, 03:39 PM	#16 (permalink)
RobG Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: HBCA Posts: 159	Nice Axle swap. I had a problem getting the rear leaf springs where I wanted them loaded and unloaded so I added some airbags. Really please at how well it works. Link __________________ '93 4runner 4WD/V6/5spd

09-24-2008, 09:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 854	Awesome!!! I'm gonna have to load up a weeks worth of camping gear and see how the new 5" springs hold the weight... I'll keep this in mind if they don't do so well. __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1988 4Runner... it's giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

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