Front Axle - Should I buy?

YeloSub7 · 03-06-2008, 01:52 PM

Here is a pic of an '85 front axle this guy wants for $300 with NO diff. Should I buy? This a good deal? Besides the diff it is complete...

I am pretty sure I will buy it, just wanted some second opinions. It is the '85 and it is close to home, so easy pickup...

DanStew · 03-06-2008, 03:22 PM

Pass. That is alot with no gears or chunk. You can get one cheaper. Heck i got a complete assembly for $75 but i was in the right palce at the right time. That is too much for a front axle.

YeloSub7 · 03-06-2008, 05:49 PM

Ya he was wanting $380 with the stock 4.10 open diff... what should I try to haggle him down to? I was thinking these were more around the $200 range, but haven't seen any lately. Or they sell fast, which is why I'm thinking I should jump on it. But ya it's kinda pricey imo.

fillsrunner4 · 03-06-2008, 05:51 PM

two hundred would be about were I would max paying for axle. Pass youll find a better deal I think

YeloSub7 · 03-06-2008, 06:10 PM

but $200 with or without a diff? I have one ready to swap in with gears/locker, but is it worth $200 still w/o diff?

yotaman · 03-06-2008, 08:53 PM

I'd say $200 with no differential isn't to bad. It's defiantly not a great deal.

I've gotten complete axles for $200 but they're getting harder to find on my side of the world.

fillsrunner4 · 03-06-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YeloSub7

but $200 with or without a diff? I have one ready to swap in with gears/locker, but is it worth $200 still w/o diff?

In Cali you should have no problem finding a better deal. Take for instance trail gears new rock assault axle. I dont much like the idea, looks or anything about it but its built and sells for $400 brand new. a used, needing new seals, rebuild, gears and all I dont think $200 is a good price. Keep searching and you shall find. Hell I got a deal on 2 gear driven t/cases one of which was just rebuilt for $50. The deals are out there.

Good luck in the search

yotaman · 03-06-2008, 09:15 PM

I think a complete 84-85 front axle is worth $300 max. The outer locking hubs are worth at least $100 for the pair.

It all boils down to how bad you need it and if you can wait for a better deal to come around.

fillsrunner4 · 03-06-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by yotaman

I think a complete 84-85 front axle is worth $300 max. The outer locking hubs are worth at least $100 for the pair.

It all boils down to how bad you need it and if you can wait for a better deal to come around.

pretty much

YeloSub7 · 03-07-2008, 02:40 PM

ah, I think I'll go for it, how much is an open 4.10 diff worth?

**Elvota** · 03-07-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by YeloSub7

ah, I think I'll go for it, how much is an open 4.10 diff worth?

Why not just keep the diff and re-gear?

I think the price will be dictated by your market and need. If it's rust free and includes everything, I'd go for it.

Keep in mind that the TG axle for $400 referred to above is just for the housing.. and that's a rear housing to boot.

If you are patient and enjoy the hunt, your might be able to save $100 max. My bet is your won't find a complete Toy axle for that low unless you really hunt or are very lucky.

See if he'll take $300 with the diff and try to make up the extra $100 elsewhere with your swap.

By the time you are done... you'll forget what a $100 even means as things start to add up.

DanStew · 03-07-2008, 03:43 PM

Did you do a want ad on this forum? I would do one of those first and see what you can get. Cali has alot more Yotas than the rest of the country. I can find them alot of times for about $200 here.

YeloSub7 · 03-08-2008, 03:52 PM

Ya i did a want ad for one here.

I already have thirds that are regeared for the front and rear, both with limited slips, so I'm set there... He is stuck on $380 for the whole thing because thats what he paid for it... i told him he paid too much. That didn't help :wall:

dirtoyboy · 03-09-2008, 07:07 AM

I usually charge 250 for my 84-85 axles....

rivercat · 03-09-2008, 11:49 AM

moot point as you should add a longer truss later but, don't all 85 axles have a factory truss on top? that looks more like my '83 axle....

**Elvota** · 03-09-2008, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rivercat

moot point as you should add a longer truss later but, don't all 85 axles have a factory truss on top?

Nope... factory truss is always under the axle. Different years have different lengths, with '85 being the longest.

Aftermarket trusses mount above.

YeloSub7 · 03-10-2008, 04:48 PM

bought one for $300!! who wants the diff? stock 85 front diff with 4.10, open... pm me, will post in for sale section also...

894runner1990 · 05-21-2008, 02:45 PM

hey sry im new to this site... but can somebody tell em everything that i need to do an sas on my 89 4runner. If i by the kit from marlin and the axle what else will i need to make this work? or is that all i will need?

Toyotero · 05-22-2008, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 894runner1990

hey sry im new to this site... but can somebody tell em everything that i need to do an sas on my 89 4runner. If i by the kit from marlin and the axle what else will i need to make this work? or is that all i will need?

Solid Axle Swaps have been done for over 10 years now and easily number in the thousands completed, so there are a lot of write-ups of the process on the internet.
Do some web searching and you will find the info that you need very quickly.

Here's a good one to start you off.
http://www.brian894x4.com/Solidaxleswappt1.html

Google: Toyota Solid Axle Swap

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03-06-2008, 01:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	Front Axle - Should I buy? Here is a pic of an '85 front axle this guy wants for $300 with NO diff. Should I buy? This a good deal? Besides the diff it is complete... I am pretty sure I will buy it, just wanted some second opinions. It is the '85 and it is close to home, so easy pickup... __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-06-2008, 03:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
DanStew Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 331	Pass. That is alot with no gears or chunk. You can get one cheaper. Heck i got a complete assembly for $75 but i was in the right palce at the right time. That is too much for a front axle. __________________ Dan Stewart 1952 CJ3a 1989 4Runner

03-06-2008, 05:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	Ya he was wanting $380 with the stock 4.10 open diff... what should I try to haggle him down to? I was thinking these were more around the $200 range, but haven't seen any lately. Or they sell fast, which is why I'm thinking I should jump on it. But ya it's kinda pricey imo. __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-06-2008, 05:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
fillsrunner4 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Sammamish, wa Posts: 2,363	two hundred would be about were I would max paying for axle. Pass youll find a better deal I think __________________ 94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Fillsrunner4 3.4crawler Build Thread Fillsrunner4.3 crawler (Part Two) build thread

03-06-2008, 06:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	but $200 with or without a diff? I have one ready to swap in with gears/locker, but is it worth $200 still w/o diff? __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-06-2008, 08:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,049	I'd say $200 with no differential isn't to bad. It's defiantly not a great deal. I've gotten complete axles for $200 but they're getting harder to find on my side of the world. __________________ Greg - http://www.pureyota.com --- you can't fail if you don't give up. Proud dad of a little girl.. 1. 1997 Tacoma - 3.4 auto - SAS'd - DD 2. 1995 4Runner - SAS'd - FJ62 Front - FZJ80 Rear, 40" Iroks - Beater! 3. 1995 4Runner - 3.4 swapped - Baby mobile/Grocery getter! You can lose a lot of money chasing women, but you'll never lose women chasing money.

03-06-2008, 09:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,049	I think a complete 84-85 front axle is worth $300 max. The outer locking hubs are worth at least $100 for the pair. It all boils down to how bad you need it and if you can wait for a better deal to come around. __________________ Greg - http://www.pureyota.com --- you can't fail if you don't give up. Proud dad of a little girl.. 1. 1997 Tacoma - 3.4 auto - SAS'd - DD 2. 1995 4Runner - SAS'd - FJ62 Front - FZJ80 Rear, 40" Iroks - Beater! 3. 1995 4Runner - 3.4 swapped - Baby mobile/Grocery getter! You can lose a lot of money chasing women, but you'll never lose women chasing money.

03-07-2008, 02:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	ah, I think I'll go for it, how much is an open 4.10 diff worth? __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-07-2008, 03:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
DanStew Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 331	Did you do a want ad on this forum? I would do one of those first and see what you can get. Cali has alot more Yotas than the rest of the country. I can find them alot of times for about $200 here. __________________ Dan Stewart 1952 CJ3a 1989 4Runner

03-08-2008, 03:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	Ya i did a want ad for one here. I already have thirds that are regeared for the front and rear, both with limited slips, so I'm set there... He is stuck on $380 for the whole thing because thats what he paid for it... i told him he paid too much. That didn't help :wall: __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

03-09-2008, 11:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
rivercat Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: snoqualmie,wa Posts: 280	moot point as you should add a longer truss later but, don't all 85 axles have a factory truss on top? that looks more like my '83 axle.... __________________ 1995 4runner 22re 5speed, 5:29 elocker/detroit, F/R leaf swap, LCE topend, 36x13.5 Iroks and TJM T17 modified marlin sliders BCC rear bumper.....

03-10-2008, 04:48 PM	#17 (permalink)
YeloSub7 Contributing Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 860	bought one for $300!! who wants the diff? stock 85 front diff with 4.10, open... pm me, will post in for sale section also... __________________ -Jake 1990 4Runner <> 1990 Toyota 4Runner-22RE-5 speed-TG 3" front/4" rear-33's-4.88's-rear LSD-front TruTrac-MC Rear Bumper-TG DOM Sliders! SAS Build-Up Old Rigs: '85 4Runner (RIP) '95 4Runner (sold)

05-21-2008, 02:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
894runner1990 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 13	hey sry im new to this site... but can somebody tell em everything that i need to do an sas on my 89 4runner. If i by the kit from marlin and the axle what else will i need to make this work? or is that all i will need?