91 runner front 3 link solid axle

miese · 03-29-2009, 01:35 PM

This post was started on another site but I wanted to let some other yota guys in on my fun.

So last summer I ran my 33’s and did nothing but break front axles and it really took the fun out of playing with my truck. This year I am going with an 85 solid axle running a high pinion land cruiser third and factory e-locker. Should be much better!

Got the plasma going and voila….pile of useless parts!

Gotta get the rest of the mounts out of the way

Nice clean frame!

Raise the drive line up 2 ½ inches to flatten out my belly.

Clean out the old crossmember to make way for the new one. 2x4x1/4 made from three pieces for easy trans service. Lower links for radius arm will start at the crossmember and run to the front diff. Gonna use coilovers to hold it all up.

Truck looks mean without the ifs junk!

Started getting the axle ready.

Made all the gussets need to weld it all up.

Parts just waiting to go together!

Axle upgrade….. Big Time!

More to come!

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miese · 03-29-2009, 03:45 PM

so the front shaft doesnt have much flex .

For the work required and the cost involved, it was well worth it.

miese · 03-29-2009, 03:46 PM

I wanna keep it a little low so i need to c noth the frame.On the front (sounds weird)

Very excited to cut out original frame tonight!

miese · 03-29-2009, 03:47 PM

Some new pics of the old frame all gone and the diff trussed up!
Got a 2 wheel dr pan to give me more room. All the steering gonna fit up nice.

miese · 03-29-2009, 03:50 PM

I have been in the mock up and decision stage.

Looks as if I am going with a three link , with a panhard bar. Should work very nice. I have found that my frame is gonna be to close to my locker when I start to flex so I decided I am going to c-notch the frame. It is going to make the frame stronger at the front and give me the clearance I need. My hope is to keep the truck at a nice ride height and have lots of flex. My coils at this time will restrict me to 2.5 inches of up travel and 5.5 down.

Looks that my caster angle is gonna be just slightly positive which should be just fine.

TMZ · 03-29-2009, 06:26 PM

Have you thought about jigging the front housing to make sure it did not warp from all the welding on it. You do really nice work BTW.

**waskillywabbit** · 03-29-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miese

so the front shaft doesnt have much flex .

For the work required and the cost involved, it was well worth it.

Did you do that or have it done? What exactly did you do?

Looks nice and purty.

miese · 03-29-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMZ

Have you thought about jigging the front housing to make sure it did not warp from all the welding on it. You do really nice work BTW.

First Thank you, and second it took a few hours to weld up, doing 1 to 2 inch passes on opossite sides. Lots of cooling cycles in between. Starting out with the 85 housing already trussed on the bottom makes it a little safer too.

ocdropzone · 03-29-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Did you do that or have it done? What exactly did you do?

Looks nice and purty.

x2..did you use 4crawler's write up?

miese · 03-29-2009, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskillywabbit

Did you do that or have it done? What exactly did you do?

Looks nice and purty.

I did the driveshaft myself. It really wasnt all that bad to do.
once its apart the mods are easy. befor and after pics of all the stages.
strip and sandblast

remove the seal and grind off the stop ring

cut the stop off the bottom and remove excess off top of bearing

clearance for the grease fitting

Funny part, I have to cut it now to lengthen it, need about 5 inches so i am just gonna retube it and not change the slip joint. Gonna see how that works.

miese · 03-29-2009, 07:50 PM

I used a write up on 4x4wire. Just enough detail to get me goin.

86Toyrunna · 03-29-2009, 07:56 PM

sweet build up so far man, cant wait to see this all done... subscribed!

miese · 03-30-2009, 05:31 PM

Thought I would put up some pics of my crossmember and link setups. Still in the early stages.

Bungs for the johnny joints

Front lower links

bigt · 03-30-2009, 06:36 PM

YEAH MAN!!! i kinda wanted to post this up one here so the toyota dans could see it...

being on the heep site and all..

CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS BIA in PERSON WITH THE LINKS...

your drive shaft mod with pics is totally boss hog

agusgus3 · 04-01-2009, 12:51 PM

Sweet going build man. Hopefully we can help each other on this 3 Link, I'm doing one as well. Have you considered going to a 4 link radius arm setup like that found on jeeps?

miese · 04-03-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agusgus3

Sweet going build man. Hopefully we can help each other on this 3 Link, I'm doing one as well. Have you considered going to a 4 link radius arm setup like that found on jeeps?

I did consider going with a radius arm setup, but after cuttin it all out and sitting back for a good look I decided a 3rd link would be better for me. I think with the radius arm set I will be restricted on placement of my coil over.
Plus who does a radius arm "heeps", The YOTA needs to be different.

agusgus3 · 04-05-2009, 05:52 PM

are you going to put the upper link mount on the frame rail or on the cross member your making?

scuba · 04-05-2009, 06:19 PM

Subscribed...

Lookin Badass so far !!

miese · 04-07-2009, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agusgus3

are you going to put the upper link mount on the frame rail or on the cross member your making?

The upper link is on the crossmember so that the three links will be the same length. Unequal lengths makes for some difficult geometry. Using 2 holes on each mount for adjustability.

Hopefully I will post a few pics tonite.

miese · 04-07-2009, 08:04 PM

So got the links and crossmember done.

Third link and coilovers are next. Engine and trans lift into the body went nicely as did the frame.

Was happy with the space and clearance gained for up travel.
Third link gonna fit right up in the frame and clear the oil pan and engine mount thanks to a pair of brackets Stangs fab added to the build.

Thinking a 36 or a 38 tsl for her to ride up on.

miese · 04-10-2009, 10:26 AM

all links in and hooked up. Moving on to coil mounts.Flex is real smooth with no binding and it seems that all is gonna clear real well.

Couple more days and the front should be done! Time to link the rear!

scuba · 04-10-2009, 10:31 AM

Square links...Thats no joke !!

Im diggin this build and cant wait to see whats next

miese · 04-21-2009, 08:48 PM

Front end is almostc complete. Getting ready for reassy. The spring perches are all done and the frame is finished(on the front anyway).

Front diff is ready for a clean and some fresh parts.

I decide the time was right so , the rear got cut out too. Frame is a little soft on the pass side so I'm gonna have to fix it too.

scuba · 04-21-2009, 09:09 PM

Jeezus, Thats whats up...

miese · 05-02-2009, 07:54 AM

So the front is pretty much complete and I got some new rubber.

Let me know what you guys think! I have to cut out the rear frame cause there is some rot to fix. I will post some pics of the rear soon.

03-29-2009, 03:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	I wanna keep it a little low so i need to c noth the frame.On the front (sounds weird) Very excited to cut out original frame tonight! Last edited by miese; 03-29-2009 at 03:55 PM.

03-29-2009, 03:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	I have been in the mock up and decision stage. Looks as if I am going with a three link , with a panhard bar. Should work very nice. I have found that my frame is gonna be to close to my locker when I start to flex so I decided I am going to c-notch the frame. It is going to make the frame stronger at the front and give me the clearance I need. My hope is to keep the truck at a nice ride height and have lots of flex. My coils at this time will restrict me to 2.5 inches of up travel and 5.5 down. Looks that my caster angle is gonna be just slightly positive which should be just fine. Last edited by miese; 03-29-2009 at 03:56 PM.

03-29-2009, 07:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
86Toyrunna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: B-TOWN, ORYGUN Posts: 431	sweet build up so far man, cant wait to see this all done... subscribed! __________________ current: 1986 4Runner, Rebuilt 22RE with engnbldr HP head, cam'd, battery/intake swap, SASed, 5.29s, detroit rear, 35in MTRs, trussed and armored axles, marlin HD clutch, soon to be dual cased, TG rear bumper, Best mod todate CHROME METAL SR5 DOOR HANDLES, thats whats up RIP: 1985 Standard Cab SR5 pickup, add-a-leafs and shackels, 33" BFGs, it died a horrible death (50mph roll over) DD: 2006 Scion Tc w/TRD Supercharge and TRD stainless cat-back exhaust

03-30-2009, 06:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,200	YEAH MAN!!! i kinda wanted to post this up one here so the toyota dans could see it... being on the heep site and all.. CANT WAIT TO SEE THIS BIA in PERSON WITH THE LINKS... your drive shaft mod with pics is totally boss hog __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

04-05-2009, 06:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	Subscribed... Lookin Badass so far !! __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

03-29-2009, 03:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	so the front shaft doesnt have much flex . For the work required and the cost involved, it was well worth it.

03-29-2009, 03:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	Some new pics of the old frame all gone and the diff trussed up! Got a 2 wheel dr pan to give me more room. All the steering gonna fit up nice.

03-29-2009, 06:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
TMZ Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 119	Have you thought about jigging the front housing to make sure it did not warp from all the welding on it. You do really nice work BTW.

03-29-2009, 07:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	I used a write up on 4x4wire. Just enough detail to get me goin.

03-30-2009, 05:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	Thought I would put up some pics of my crossmember and link setups. Still in the early stages. Bungs for the johnny joints Front lower links

04-01-2009, 12:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
agusgus3 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 133	Sweet going build man. Hopefully we can help each other on this 3 Link, I'm doing one as well. Have you considered going to a 4 link radius arm setup like that found on jeeps?

04-05-2009, 05:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
agusgus3 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 133	are you going to put the upper link mount on the frame rail or on the cross member your making?

04-07-2009, 08:04 PM	#20 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	So got the links and crossmember done. Third link and coilovers are next. Engine and trans lift into the body went nicely as did the frame. Was happy with the space and clearance gained for up travel. Third link gonna fit right up in the frame and clear the oil pan and engine mount thanks to a pair of brackets Stangs fab added to the build. Thinking a 36 or a 38 tsl for her to ride up on.

04-10-2009, 10:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	all links in and hooked up. Moving on to coil mounts.Flex is real smooth with no binding and it seems that all is gonna clear real well. Couple more days and the front should be done! Time to link the rear!

04-10-2009, 10:31 AM	#22 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	Square links...Thats no joke !! Im diggin this build and cant wait to see whats next __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

04-21-2009, 08:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	Front end is almostc complete. Getting ready for reassy. The spring perches are all done and the frame is finished(on the front anyway). Front diff is ready for a clean and some fresh parts. I decide the time was right so , the rear got cut out too. Frame is a little soft on the pass side so I'm gonna have to fix it too.

04-21-2009, 09:09 PM	#24 (permalink)
scuba Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: WHEELIN BIG BEAR Posts: 6,968	Jeezus, Thats whats up... __________________ Screw you guys I'm goin to TTORA Mods, please be mature and leave my sig alone, thanks. No, I will not be your friend.

05-02-2009, 07:54 AM	#25 (permalink)
miese Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 30	So the front is pretty much complete and I got some new rubber. Let me know what you guys think! I have to cut out the rear frame cause there is some rot to fix. I will post some pics of the rear soon.

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