4runner SAS: how tall are your leafs?

Kiff · 04-07-2008, 08:00 PM

About to order up a SAS kit, wondering what leafs I should get? what are other's experiences?

Hayes · 04-07-2008, 08:11 PM

what size tire do you plan on running? That is a big part of the lift you need. Is this a truck or 4runner? for 33'' tires, go with 3-4'' lift. I have 3'' up front and it is great. If you want to run 35'' tires, go with 5'' lift.

Kiff · 04-07-2008, 08:13 PM

it's a 91 4runner. I am looking at 35's or 37's whatever comes available really

Hayes · 04-07-2008, 08:17 PM

then a 5'' lift will be what you are looking for.

yotaman · 04-07-2008, 08:44 PM

I would not get a 5" lift. I have a buddy running 36" tires and 5" springs. He's truck is TALL. Get 4" front and 5" rear max. If I had it to do over I'd go 3" front and 4" rear but that's just me.

Kiff · 04-07-2008, 09:11 PM

The only thing I can think why I would go for 5's is I can always remove leafs to flatten them out no?

**Elvota** · 04-08-2008, 02:14 AM

I ended up with Marlin 4" fronts and All-Pro 6" rears. This was upon Marlin's suggestion, as All-Pro (at the time) measured their springs differently. Generally, it's common to go 1" more on the rear to help offset some of the additional weight of the 2nd Gen 4Runner. To be honest, even with the 6" AP springs I could never get the tail end level.

I have 35's now, but may up to 37's when they wear out. I envision having to cut some sheet metal or mod with a BFH a little bit to get everything to work. Currently, I have almost no rubbing issue except at a full stuff and full turn... and even then only very minor.

This is a fake CRAWL layout I made a while back goofing around with some Adobe programs.... pretty ridiculous I know, but it does show the dimensions I ended up with pretty well:

***waskillywabbit*** · 04-08-2008, 06:47 AM

Leaf spring lift depends on a lot of things as mentioned above.

I agree with Yotaman on springs.

I run 40s with a 5" lift but I have no sheet metal either.

Kiff · 04-08-2008, 07:18 AM

somewhat off topic. Is there a difference in leafs between companies, ie: trail gear, marlin, all-pro, wab-fab? or are the kits all fairly similar?

***waskillywabbit*** · 04-08-2008, 08:14 AM

Do some searching as it has been discussed ad nauseum but your options are limited in Canada with import fees.

dirtoyboy · 04-08-2008, 10:47 AM

Heres a general guideline to get started....

33-35" tires = 3 inch lift

35-37" tires = 4 inch lift

37'+ tires = 5 inch lift

Use sawzall. Cut to fit

and YES there is a huge difference in spring quality and rates between the different companies...I would recommend doing some research before you drop some serious coin

TOYOTA 1 · 04-08-2008, 10:55 AM

my truck came out a lil wierd. i didnt want body role so i went with 3.5" lift spring in the front and a 5" allpro in the rear. and it sits level! here is a pic on 35"

Kiff · 04-08-2008, 08:05 PM

how do rears up front size up?

Kiff · 04-10-2008, 07:26 PM

any input on rears up front?

bigarms23 · 04-10-2008, 09:03 PM

I would order marlins 4inch sas kit but have 5inch rear springs to compansate for the extra rear weight
that will allow you to run 35s or 37s with minor fender trimming and it will give a great center of gravity

**UKMyers** · 04-10-2008, 09:16 PM

Another one for 4" front 5" rear. Other options are rears up front and chevies rears.

04-07-2008, 08:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,424	what size tire do you plan on running? That is a big part of the lift you need. Is this a truck or 4runner? for 33'' tires, go with 3-4'' lift. I have 3'' up front and it is great. If you want to run 35'' tires, go with 5'' lift. __________________ -Hayes

04-07-2008, 08:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hayes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Aurora, CO Posts: 1,424	then a 5'' lift will be what you are looking for. __________________ -Hayes

04-07-2008, 08:44 PM	#5 (permalink)
yotaman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 1,049	I would not get a 5" lift. I have a buddy running 36" tires and 5" springs. He's truck is TALL. Get 4" front and 5" rear max. If I had it to do over I'd go 3" front and 4" rear but that's just me. __________________ Greg - http://www.pureyota.com --- you can't fail if you don't give up. Proud dad of a little girl.. 1. 1997 Tacoma - 3.4 auto - SAS'd - DD 2. 1995 4Runner - SAS'd - FJ62 Front - FZJ80 Rear, 40" Iroks - Beater! 3. 1995 4Runner - 3.4 swapped - Baby mobile/Grocery getter! You can lose a lot of money chasing women, but you'll never lose women chasing money.

04-08-2008, 02:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
Elvota Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 3,442	I ended up with Marlin 4" fronts and All-Pro 6" rears. This was upon Marlin's suggestion, as All-Pro (at the time) measured their springs differently. Generally, it's common to go 1" more on the rear to help offset some of the additional weight of the 2nd Gen 4Runner. To be honest, even with the 6" AP springs I could never get the tail end level. I have 35's now, but may up to 37's when they wear out. I envision having to cut some sheet metal or mod with a BFH a little bit to get everything to work. Currently, I have almost no rubbing issue except at a full stuff and full turn... and even then only very minor. This is a fake CRAWL layout I made a while back goofing around with some Adobe programs.... pretty ridiculous I know, but it does show the dimensions I ended up with pretty well: __________________ ================ 1990 4Runner \| V6 3.4 \| 5spd \| 240 someoddthousand miles \| SR5 \| SAS \| RLS \| 35's \| ARB \| TJM \| 217 to 1 \| W8000 - four wheels \| three sticks \| two hands \| one trail - RIGITY DIGITY

04-08-2008, 06:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,481	Leaf spring lift depends on a lot of things as mentioned above. I agree with Yotaman on springs. I run 40s with a 5" lift but I have no sheet metal either. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner GRAY FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner RED 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009

04-08-2008, 08:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
*waskillywabbit* Sponsoring Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 11,481	Do some searching as it has been discussed ad nauseum but your options are limited in Canada with import fees. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC www.myspace.com/wabfab FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner GRAY FOR SALE: 1987 4Runner RED 6th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, May 22-25, 2009

04-08-2008, 10:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
TOYOTA 1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: oregon Posts: 1,180	my truck came out a lil wierd. i didnt want body role so i went with 3.5" lift spring in the front and a 5" allpro in the rear. and it sits level! here is a pic on 35" __________________ 91 Toyota stdrd cab short bed 22re 5spd. sas'ed, Yukon 5:29's. 3.5" tuff country e-z ride springs in the front. 5" allpro long travels in the rear. pro comp es 9000 shocks, 12" tg long spline front d shaft. k&n, 35x10.50x15 boggers. cobra cb/ashtray mod, 3' fire stick. etc. 2000 Toyota Tacoma xtra cab sr5, 3"revtek,285/70/17 coopers stt, clear tails, injen short ram intake, obx header, flow master, etc. 2001 Toyota Camry, the girlfriends, www.22re.com

04-10-2008, 09:03 PM	#15 (permalink)
bigarms23 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mountains of truckee ca Posts: 805	I would order marlins 4inch sas kit but have 5inch rear springs to compansate for the extra rear weight that will allow you to run 35s or 37s with minor fender trimming and it will give a great center of gravity __________________ 1988sr5v6 4runner with chevy axles 513 gears dual cases overall 300to1 ratio 36mtzs 5inch lift detroits 1988sr5v6 4runner with a 4inch allpro longtravel sas with detroit rear a ls in front and 33s 1985 sr5 4runner 8inch lift 39.5 boggers 529s detroits front and rear and triple transfer cases with a final crawl ratio of 2828to 1(sold)

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