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Old 09-30-2008, 08:39 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Looking very good my man! That frame looks great. Thanks for all of the updates.
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:12 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Well I got the new fuel pump bracket in last night, and installed the gas tank. It fits pretty snug with the 1/4 inch steel plate wrapped around the frame. hooked up the fuel and electrical lines, fixed the gouge in the electrical line (grinder got away whoops, I used a weather proof melting type connector to repair) and fired her up. It had to turn over a few times to get the lines filled with fuel again, then she fired right up. I put the U bolts and tires back on and took it for a spin. the vibration is gone, so I guess raising the front Chevy hangers 1.25 inches into the frame helped with the pinion angle. It lowered the ride height about an inch too.
Wow these pro comp 9000 ride rough. I ordered the 3 inch lift shocks, but they were still about an inch and a half too short. maybe that's why they are so rough, they keep the leaf slightly compressed.
I also bled my clutch. I thought it felt a little soft, and the fluid in the master cylinder was quite dark. I bled it until the fluid was clear and bubble free. the clutch has a better feel now. I haven't had a chance to drive it yet and decide whether it works better yet because my wife decided it was time to come in. She was rather convincing!
I'll post some pictures this afternoon. I still have to attach the two passy side front bed mounts and then if the energy suspension bushings ever get here I will put the bed on. Other than that it is on to the front end.
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Well I got the energy suspension bushings today. I will take the front and rear apart tonight. It the the parts come off and the bushings come out easy enough, I should have some pictures of the new one's installed. I will have to cut the Upper control arm to install the BJ spacer too. All in all I am guessing it will take about a week to get this stage done. These red bushings should look cool.
I have been reading about shocks for the BJ spacers. Right now I am leaning toward the Deutsch Tech shocks for the rear (Downy off road) and Bilstein (apparently the don't work with BJ spacers unless you use some kind of shim) or OME shocks up front. I originally had pro comp's but they were too short and rode terrible.
I guess most people are moving their rear shock connections when they do the Chevy leaf swap otherwise you need like 27 inch long shocks??
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Hey, side note here while I am getting some brackets made up and installing energy suspension bushings. I found this information on an eBay auction of all places. I did not see a copy right or a request not to reproduce, though I did not read every word of the auction either. If this should not be here let me know and Ill remove it.
Apearantly my truck (1992) is a seventh generation.


Here's a little about the Toyota history;

Toyota Hilux
This article is about the pickup sold in North America until 1994, and other markets as of today. For the 1995-present small pickup sold in North America, see Toyota Tacoma.
Toyota Hilux
Toyota Pickup

Manufacturer Toyota Motor Corporation
NUMMI (1991-1995)(North America)
Hino
Production 1962 - present
Predecessor Toyota G1
Successor Toyota Tacoma (North America)
First generation
Also called Toyota Stout
Toyota/Hino Briska
Production 1962-1969
Assembly Honsha, Japan
Body style(s) 2-door truck
Layout FR layout
Engine(s) 1.9L I4
Transmission(s) 4-speed manual
Second generation
Also called Toyota Hi-Lux
Production 1969-1972
Assembly Toyota, Japan
Body style(s) 2-door truck
Layout FR layout
Engine(s) 1.9L I4
1.8L I4
Transmission(s) 4-speed manual
Third generation
Production 1973-1974
Assembly Toyota, Japan
Body style(s) 2-door truck
Layout FR layout
Engine(s) 1.8L I4
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
Fourth generation
Also called Toyota Pickup
Production 1975-1978
Body style(s) 2-door truck
Layout FR layout
Engine(s) 2.2L I4
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
Fifth generation
Also called Toyota Pickup
Toyota SR5
Toyota Diesel
Production 1979-1983
Body style(s) 2-door truck
Layout Front engine, rear-wheel drive / four-wheel drive
Engine(s) 2.0L I4
2.2L I4
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
3-speed automatic
Sixth generation

Also called Toyota Turbo
Toyota 1 Ton
Production 1984-1988
Assembly Toyota, Japan
Tahara, Aichi, Japan
Body style(s) 2-door truck
Layout Front engine, rear-wheel drive / four-wheel drive
Engine(s) 2.4L I4
3.0L V6
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
3-speed automatic
Wheelbase Regular Cab Short Bed: 103.0 in (2616 mm)
Regular Cab Long Bed: 112.0 in (2845 mm)
Xtracab Long Bed: 121.5 in (3086 mm)
Length Regular Cab Short Bed: 174.6 in (4435 mm)
Regular Cab Long Bed: 186.2 in (4729 mm)
Xtracab Long Bed: 195.5 in (4966 mm)
Xtracab SR5: 184.1 in (4676 mm)
Reg. Cab 4WD: 186.2 in (4729 mm)
Width Regular Cab: 63.8 in (1621 mm)
Xtracab Long Bed: 66.1 in (1679 mm)
Xtracab: 66.5 in (1689 mm)
Height Regular Cab Short Bed 2WD: 60.8 in (1544 mm)
Regular Cab Long Bed: 60.4 in (1534 mm)
Xtracab Long Bed: 60.3 in (1532 mm)
1 Ton Reg. Cab Long Bed 2WD: 61.5 in (1562 mm)
Regular Cab 4WD: 67.3 in (1709 mm)
SR5 Turbo Xtracab: 60.2 in (1529 mm)
Xtracab 4WD: 67.1 in (1704 mm)
Related Toyota 4Runner/Hilux Surf
Seventh generation
Also called Toyota 4x4
Toyota 4x2
Volkswagen Taro
Production 1989-1997
Assembly Tahara, Aichi, Japan
Hamura, Japan
Fremont, California
Body style(s) 2-door truck
Layout Front engine, rear-wheel drive / four-wheel drive
Engine(s) 2.4L I4
3.0L V6
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
4-speed automatic
Wheelbase Regular Cab: 103.0 in (2616 mm)
Regular Cab Long Bed: 112.2 in (2850 mm)
Xtracab: 121.5 in (3086 mm)
Xtracab V6: 121.9 in (3096 mm)
Length Regular Cab: 174.6 in (4435 mm)
Regular Cab Long Bed: 186.0 in (4724 mm)
Xtracab: 193.1 in (4905 mm)
DLX Reg. Cab Long Bed 4WD: 185.8 in (4719 mm)
DLX Regular Cab 4WD: 174.4 in (4430 mm)
Width 66.5 in (1689 mm)
Height 1989-1992 Regular Cab: 60.8 in (1544 mm)
1989-1992 Regular Cab Long Bed: 60.6 in (1539 mm)
1989-1992 Xtracab 2WD: 61.0 in (1549 mm)
1989-1992 Regular Cab Long Bed 4WD: 67.1 in (1704 mm)
1989-1992 Xtracab 4WD: 67.3 in (1709 mm)
1993-94 Regular Cab: 62.6 in (1590 mm)
1993-94 Regular Cab: 62.8 in (1595 mm)
1993-94 Xtracab 4WD: 69.1 in (1755 mm)
1993-94 Regular Cab 4WD: 68.9 in (1750 mm)
Related Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Hilux Surf
Toyota Land Cruiser Prado
Eighth generation
Also called Toyota Tacoma
Toyota Hilux Vigo
Production 1998-2004
Assembly Tahara, Aichi, Japan
Hamura, Japan
Body style(s) 2-door truck
4-door truck
Layout Front engine, rear-wheel drive / four-wheel drive
Engine(s) 2.4L I4
2.7L I4
3.4L V6
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
4-speed automatic
Related Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Fortuner
Toyota Innova
Toyota Land Cruiser Prado
Ninth generation
Also called Toyota Tacoma
Toyota Hilux Vigo
Production 2005-present
Assembly Tahara, Aichi, Japan
Hamura, Japan
Body style(s) 2-door truck
4-door truck
Layout Front engine, rear-wheel drive / four-wheel drive
Engine(s) 2.0L I4
2.5L diesel I4
2.7 L I4
3.0L I4
4.0L V6
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual
Wheelbase 3085 mm (121.5 in)
Length 5255 mm (206.9 in)
Width 1810 mm (71.3 in)
Height 1760 mm (69.3 in)
Related Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Fortuner
Toyota Innova
Toyota Land Cruiser Prado
Toyota FJ Cruiser

The Toyota Hilux, and Toyota Tacoma, are compact pickup trucks built and marketed by the Toyota Motor Corporation. The Hilux name was adopted as a replacement for the Stout in 1969, and remains in use worldwide. In North America, the Hilux name was retired in 1976 in favor of Truck, Pickup Truck, or Compact Truck, until it was renamed the Tacoma in 1995. One popular option package, SR5 (Sport Rally), also became synonymous with the truck, even though it was used on other Toyota models as well. In 1984, the Trekker, the camper version of the Hilux, was changed to the Toyota 4Runner in North America and Australia, and as the Hilux Surf in Japan. The 4Runner, now a full SUV, shares few visual cues with its brother Tacoma in more recent models.

As the Hilux name was dropped in the US in 1976, any details listed here purporting to relate to the Hilux from that date may not be entirely correct when applied to the vehicle that continues to be marketed by Toyota as the Hilux throughout the rest of the world.

The product lines for the US and elsewhere diverged at that point and in many cases on a year for year basis the vehicles sold in the US only resemble the Hilux, with major mechanical/chassis differences.


1935
The original Toyota pickup was the 1935 Type G1 Truck. It shared many components with the company's Type A1 sedan, and was a 1.5 ton stake-bed commercial truck.


1947
After World War II, Toyota returned with a compact pickup truck, the Toyopet Model SB. This was the true ancestor of the Hilux, and remained in production from 1947 through 1963.

Engine:

995 cc I4, 27 hp (20 kW)

1964
Toyota entered the American market with the 1964 introduction of the Stout. It was larger than the similar Datsun and Mazda compact trucks, and looked like a Chevrolet C/K.

Engine:

1964-1968 - 1.9 L (1897 cc) 3R I4, 85 hp (63 kW)

1968
The Hilux started production in March 1968[1] as the RN10 in short wheelbase form with a 1.5 L engine. This was upgraded to a 1.6 L I4 engine in February 1971.

Non American markets:

1968-1971 - 1.5 L (1490 cc) 2R I4[1]

1969
In April 1969, a long wheelbase version was added to the range. The short wheelbase version also continued in production for many more years. The long wheelbase version was not sold on the American market until 1972.

In spite of the name "Hilux", it was a highly-luxurious vehicle only when compared to the Stout. Hilux was engineered and assembled by Hino Motors, replaced Hino Briska,Toyota Briska and Toyota Light Stout. For the American market, the only body style was a regular cab short bed and all were rear-wheel drive. It used a typical truck setup of A-arms and coil springs in front and a live axle with leaf springs in back. A 4-speed manual transmission was standard.

American markets:

1969 - 1.9 L (1897 cc) 3R I4, 85 hp (63 kW)
1970-1971 - 1.9 L (1858 cc) 8R SOHC I4, 97 hp (72 kW)
1972 - 2.0 L (1968 cc) 18R SOHC I4, 108 hp (81 kW)
Non American markets:

1968-1971 - 1.5 L (1490 cc) 2R I4[1]
1971-1972 - 1.6 L (1587 cc) 12R I4[1]

1972
In the middle of 1972, the 1973 Hilux was released as the RN20. A more-comfortable interior was specified along with exterior updates. A 7.5 ft (2.3 m) "long bed" was optional for the first time in America, although it had been available in other markets since April 1969[1].

American markets:

1973-1974 - 2.0 L (1968 cc) 18R SOHC I4, 108 hp (81 kW)
Non American markets:

1972-1978 - 1.6 L (1587 cc) 12R I4[1]
1977-1978 - 2.0 L (1968 cc) 18R I4[1]

1975
The truck was radically redesigned in 1975. Larger and more luxurious in every way, the truck also introduced the 20R engine and SR5 upscale trim package. A 5-speed manual transmission was optional. The Hilux name was dropped in America in favor of "Truck" the next year. Buyers of the Hilux in America found that their owners' manuals named it as the Toyota "Pickup".

Engine:

1975-1980 - 2.2 L (2189 cc) 20R SOHC I4, 96 hp (72 kW)

1979
In America the hilux saw the use of four wheel drive. It had a solid front axle and leaf suspension. The body saw a redesign that included single round headlights and a less complex body. These trucks became known as first generation 4WDs.



1983 Toyota Pickup SR5 4X4

1981
The 1981 model year saw a vehicle development deal between Toyota and Winnebago Industries (primarily) and two other aftermarket customizers. Toyota was attempting to enter the SUV market. The vehicles which resulted from this collaboration were the Toyota Trekker (Winnebago), Toyota Wolverine, and the Toyota Trailblazer (Griffith). All three employed the Toyota Hilux 4x4 RV cab and chassis, and an all-fiberglass rear section (the Trailblazer had a steel bed with a fiberglass top). There were at least 1,500 Trekkers, 400 Trailblazers (only 41 currently registered by the DMV), and an unknown number of Wolverines sold in North America. Research and development work on the Trekker lead to the development of the Toyota 4Runner (The 4Runner was also sold in the United Kingdom)(called the Toyota Hilux Surf outside North America), which was released in 1984.

Engines:

1981-1983-2.4 L(2366 cc) 22R SOHC I4, 96 hp (72 kW) at 4800 rpm and 129 ft·lbf (175 N·m) of torque at 2800 rpm.
1981-1983-2.2 L Diesel I4, 62 hp (46 kW) at 4200 rpm and 93 ft·lbf (126 N·m) of torque(SR5 long bed only.).

1984


1984 Toyota pickup
The big news for the 1984 redesign was the introduction of the Xtracab two-row extended cab option. Also two diesel engines were offered, the 2L and the turbocharged 2L-T. The diesels were discontinued in the U.S. after the 1985 model year, for unknown reasons. The next year saw the introduction of an optional fuel injected engine, the 22R-E, and a turbocharged option, the 22R-TE. The solid front axle was swapped out for an independent front suspension/torsion bar setup in the 4x4 model in 1986, and optional automatic front locking hubs and an electronic transfer case was added as well. A V6 engine was introduced in 1988.

Engines:

1984-1988 - 2.4 L (2366 cc) 22R SOHC I4, 96 hp (72 kW) at 4800 rpm and 129 ft·lbf (174 N·m) at 2800 rpm
1984-1986 2.2 L 1L (2188 cc)Diesel I4, 62 hp (46.2 kW) at 4200 rpm and 93 ft·lbf (126 N·m) (SR5 long bed only)
1984-1985 - 2.4L (2446 cc) Diesel I4 2L SOHC, 83 hp (62 kW) at 4200 rpm and 122 ft·lbf (165 N·m) at 2400 rpm; 2L-T (2446 cc) SOHC, 92 hp (69 kW) at 4000 rpm and 159 ft·lbf (216 N·m) at 2400 rpm
1985-1988 - 2.4 L (2366 cc) 22R-E SOHC FI I4, 112 hp (78 kW) at 4800 rpm and 137 ft·lbf (185 N·m) at 2800 rpm
1986-1987 - 2.4 L (2366 cc) 22R-TE SOHC FI turbo I4, 135 hp (101 kW) at 4800 rpm and 173 ft·lbf (234 N·m) at 2800 rpm
1988 - 3.0 L 3VZ-E V6, 145 hp (112 kW) @ 4800rpm; 180ft-lbs @ 3400rpm

1989
The next redesign, in 1989, saw a longer-wheelbase option, 122 in (309.9 cm) versus 103 in (261.6 cm) for the regular wheelbase. The V6 Xtracab SR5 earned Motor Trend magazine's Truck of the Year award that year. Production began at the NUMMI plant in Fremont, California in 1991.

Engines:

1989-1995 - 2.4 L (2366 cc) 22R-E SOHC FI I4, 112 hp (84 kW) at 4600 rpm and 142 ft·lbf (192 N·m) at 3400 rpm
1989 - 3.0 L 3VZ-E V6, 150 hp (112 kW)
Volkswagen even signed a deal to build and market them under the Volkswagen Taro name; this agreement ended in 1996.


Toyota Pick Up 4WD

Toyota Pick Up 2WD

1991 Volkswagen Taro



1995
The name Tacoma comes from an Lushootseed word for the volcano Tahoma in the Cascade Mountains, known as Mount Rainier in English, which is visible from Tacoma, Washington.

The Tacoma frame differs from the Hilux frame, although both appear similar from the outside. Both the Tacoma and Hilux variants are sold in Mexico.

The ninth generation of compact pickup trucks from Toyota, was radically updated, with a new frame and body, new suspension, and new engines. All versions now featured coil springs in front with a live axle and leaf springs in back.

The Tacoma was restyled in 1998 when the front fascia and the frame were the primary changes as well as the addition of new badging. It was also restyled in 2001 when a new "double cab" (crew cab) option was added, and a flashy S-Runner was offered as well.

Engines:

1995-2004 2.4 L (2438 cc) 2RZ-E 16-valve DOHC I4, 142 hp (106 kW) (4x2)
1995-2004 2.7 L (2693 cc) 3RZ-E 16-valve DOHC I4, 150 hp (112 kW) (4x4)
1995-2004 3.4 L 5VZ-FE 24-valve DOHC V6, 190 hp (142 kW)

Pre-facelift Toyota Tacoma extended cab

Toyota Tacoma extended cab with second facelift

Facelifted Toyota Tacoma



2005
Both the Tacoma and the Hilux were updated in 2005. The Tacoma was based on the new Land Cruiser Prado chassis, while the Hilux rides on a refreshed version of the ladder frame found on previous versions. The new Hilux got bigger, now classified as a mid-size pick up. The Tacoma had a new 4.0 Liter V6 engine that produces 236 horsepower (176 kW) and 266 ft·lbf (361 N·m) torque. Its design was very similar to the Toyota 4Runner. Hilux sold in European, Australian and Asian Markets are built and assembled in Thailand , for the South African market the Hilux is build in Durban, South Africa , those sold in Brazil, Chile, Peru, Uruguay and Mexico, are made in Argentina. The Hilux platform was used as the basis for Toyota's IMV program which spawned the Innova MPV and Fortuner SUV/PPV.

The new Tacoma won the Canadian Car of the Year Best New Pick-up award and was Motor Trend magazine's Truck of the Year for 2005.

Engines (markets):

2005 2.0 L gasoline VVT-i DOHC I4 (South Africa, Indonesia)
2005 2.5 L diesel D-4D DOHC I4, 134 hp (100 kW) - 156 hp (Asia, Europe, South Africa, South America)
2005 2.7 L gasoline VVT-i DOHC I4, 160 hp (Australia, The Philippines, South Africa, USA)
2005 3.0 L diesel D-4D DOHC I4, Turbodiesel, commonrail 16-valve direct injetion, 171 hp (Asia, South Africa, South America, Australia) (soon in Europe). This version is crafted at the Toyota Argentina facility in Zarate.
2005 4.0 L gasoline VVT-i DOHC V6, 228 hp (170 kW) - 236 hp (Australia, South Africa, USA)
2008 4.0L Supercharged DOHC V6 306HP/225KW (Australia only, TRD edition)

Current Toyota Tacoma (regular cab)

Toyota Tacoma Double Cab

Extended cab Toyota Hilux

Double cab Toyota Hilux



Reputation


The nearly destroyed, but still working, Top Gear Hilux perched on its plinth.


Jeremy Clarkson's Toyota Hilux Boat, redubbed the "Toybota".
The Toyota Hilux has gained a reputation for exceptional sturdiness and reliability, even during sustained heavy use, and is often referred to as "The Indestructible Car". This was further reinforced when on the BBC motoring show Top Gear (Series 3, Episode 5) , a 1985 Toyota Hilux with 190,000 miles (308,000km) on the clock was subjected to extraordinary abuse. This consisted of driving it down the steps behind Bristol Cathedral, scraping buildings in Bristol, crashing it into a tree, tying it up to a jetty to be washed out to sea by the incoming tide, driving it through a garden shed (a.k.a the Top Gear production office), dropping a caravan onto it, hitting it with a wrecking ball, setting the cabin & bed area on fire,[2] and, on the following programme (the sixth) placing it on top of a 240-foot (73 m) block of flats that was subsequently destroyed by a controlled demolition.[3] Although it was now suffering from severe structural damage (there was already significant body corrosion when it was purchased), the truck was still running after being repaired without spare parts and only with typical tools and equipment that would be found in a car's toolbox, such as spanners, motor oil, and a monkey wrench. [4]The Hilux currently resides as one of the background decorations in the revamped Top Gear studio from Season 8 onwards.

In the 2006 series (Season 8, Episode 3), a Hilux was chosen by Jeremy Clarkson as his platform for creating an amphibious vehicle. With assistance, Clarkson rigged the truck with a massive outboard motor and steering mechanism in the pickup bed. The truck, redubbed the "Toybota" (a portmanteau of "Toyota" and "boat"), was driven by Clarkson over several miles by road and two miles (3 km) across open water, before capsizing during a quick turn. Once recovered, the vehicle was moved back to the Top Gear Studio, where a confident Clarkson stated that he would be the only one capable of driving his car home, since it was the indestructible Hilux. However, Clarkson could not get the Hilux started which led his co-hosts to believe that Clarkson had finally destroyed the "indestructible". In the 2007 series (Season 10, Episode 2), Clarkson opted for a Nissan pickup instead of a Hilux in a second amphibious challenge, successfully crossing the English Channel in the vehicle.

In 2007, Top Gear ran a special program in which Clarkson and James May raced a customized 2005 model Hilux to the magnetic north pole from Northern Canada against Richard Hammond using a dog sled. The race, known as the Hilux Arctic Challenge, made the truck the first car to make it to the magnetic North Pole.

Outside television, these vehicles have been known to exceed 300,000 miles (~500000 km) with regular maintenance. It is also infamous for being used as an improvised fighting vehicle by militias and irregular military forces, especially in Third World conflicts (the Toyota War between Libya and Chad was so named because of the use of Toyota Hilux trucks as light cavalry by the Chadian army). These vehicles have been used in the Iraq war as Improvised Explosive Devices (IED). Militias have been know to outfit this vehicle with Surface to Air missiles and improvised often stolen post Soviet equipment such as the Gao 9 Anti-Aircraft device and the Toyota War saw use of the Hilux as a pulling vehicle which served as aircraft tug and Tank pull for the T-62 heavy tank. There are currently 37 customized Hilux used by the PLA in the Southern region of China.

In October 2007, the Swedish car magazine Teknikens Värld performed an evasive manoeuvre (a moose test) that revealed that the Toyota Hilux pickup truck was less than ideal for turning abruptly at speed. The car failed the test and only the driver's skill prevented it from overturning. After the test Toyota stopped the sales of Hilux equipped with 16 inch wheels in Europe. Teknikens Värld also gained worldwide attention in 1997, when the Mercedes-Benz A-Class overturned in their moose test.
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Well, that was a pretty cool read!
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Just wheel the stupid thing!!!
But do it responsibly, ok?
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sent back procomp 9000's too stiff and too short.........-$152.00
old man emu N98 front from TRD.................................$176.58
doetsch tech MV-12's for rear with Chevy leaves..........$116.00
fabbed flip kit and new lower shock mounts...................$80.00
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eventually I will do something cool like tires or lockers or gears, then the cost will really fly.
Hopefully I can keep this under $4K with tires gears timing kit and propane, looking doubtfull.
Anybody need a nice 4.30 third with a waranty from TAP. I am going to need 4.88's or 5.29 for the 33's.
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I got very little done this weekend. But I did get a new set of used 31x10.50's they are cooper discovers. I had them put them on the front because I had some wobble vibe rations I was hoping to reduce. The new(used) coopers completely smoothed out the ride. I suspect the new shocks tomorrow will improve the handling, but the ride is now perfect. That has come along way from a leaf spring not even attached to the right front frame (hanger was rusted completely off). I am very excited about this. I will get the bushings and bj spacers and shocks installed this week and then the drive train should be in good shape. That will allow me so start studying the engine and prepping for PROPANE, yeah.
Oh yeah, and I am trying to do a swap with a guy over on pirate, he has 4.88 front and rear and wants to go to 5.29, but I guess the kit he bought wont work on his 4.88 setup, so I offered my 4.30's and some boot. I really hope that works out. 4.88's with 33's will be perfect for this project. Originally I thought 5.29's, but I have been driving the truck more and cleaning the engine and the power isn't too bad (relatively) with 4.30's so I think 4.88 will be quite fine with 33 inch tires.
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I ordered the Marlin heavy duty clutch kit today and heavy duty bolts. I have been driving the truck the last few days and she doesn't like going into reverse. the shift seat helped the forward shifting, but reverse takes a little work. I am betting the tranny needs new syncro's, but I am hoping the clutch will fix the problem. I already bled the clutch and gave the pedal a much better feel and it helped with shifting some, but this I hope will fix the rest.
IF not I have been thinking about buying a 35 ton Harbor freight press anyway to redo my third members (pressing bearings) so I will just bite the bullet and buy it and redo the tranny too. I really hope to avoid that until after the propane conversion. that seems to keep getting pushed further and further back. Though petrol is only $0.55 higher than propane now, a far cry from the near $2 difference when I started. Than has me thinking gears, headers and full exhaust, ISR mod and Camry maf mod. That might get this puppy to 24 mpg in town. Then when petrol goes back up do propane and remove emissions stuff and increase the compression. maybe get up to 26 mpg and more power to boot.
Hey a guy can dream right.

marlin heavy duty clutch and heavy duty bolts shipped ...............................$208.72
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:13 PM   #60 (permalink)
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As far as I'm aware, reverse is not syncronized. The input shaft just needs another moment to slow down before you slip it smoothly into reverse.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:46 PM   #61 (permalink)
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As far as I'm aware, reverse is not syncronized. The input shaft just needs another moment to slow down before you slip it smoothly into reverse.


It seems to even take place at idle while attempting to back out of a space. I have wide feet, so if I tiptoe on the clutch and get it all the way to the floor it will go in smoothly. But that is challenging with these flintstones. Hopefully the clutch will fix it.
I just scored 4runner differentials with 4.88 gears for $200 for the front and rear, I hope they are in good shape. I am meeting the guy this weekend to pick them up. I may have scored a set of tan leather buckets for $50 also. drivers side is torn. I'll add these expenses in when I actually get them.
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Old 10-16-2008, 11:22 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Mine seems to be the same. But if I slide it into 1st or second then go for reverse, the syncros have slowed the input shaft to where it needs to be to glide right into gear. And yes, hopefully the new clutch helps. It should because the friction disc will be slightly thicker again.
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:27 AM   #63 (permalink)
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The clutch came in the other day, so that will go in this weekend. I also got some amsoil severe gear full synthetic for the tranny, transfer case, and front diff ( already running it in the rear diff), and well as 5w30 full synthetic for the 3vze and an ams oil filter. I also picked up some of there full synthetic grease. So the moron will be full synthetic drive train and grease joints this weekend. Ill also be swapping out my f4.30 front and rear third for 4.56's ( when I bought them over the phone I ran the VIN past Toyota and they assured me they were 4.88, I bought them from the guy and when I got them and counted them they were 4.56. Oh well I got a great price and 4.56 will be better for my application than 4.30 anyway. It definitely isn't the sellers fault, he said he didn't know what they were, you just cant always trust the support you get from Toyota I guess. The seller offered to take them back, but since he went through eh trouble of removing them and then bringing them to me I figured I owed him to take them. Plus they will be OK for 33 inch tires for a while, then in a year or so I can go yukon gears and arb locker maybe.
Anyway I did make a little progress on the control arm bushings. I bought a Harbor freight press for $119 on sale. I took the front IFS all apart and removed the upper control arm. I pressed out the bushings and I will wire wheel it and un install the BJ spacer I just put on it the other day, then I will POR 15 on the parts I couldn't get to when I did it before and reassemble with the new poly bushings.
I am probably being overly optimistic, but I am hoping to have all of this done and back together this weekend.
Side note the shaft bolt thing between the eyes of the upper control arm that bolts the control arm to the frame is an 18 mm with 1.5 thread. I kind of stripped mine when taking it out, because it has the bolt and nut dimpled on the side at the factory to keep it from slipping ( ZUK does the same thing on thirds I saw several of his threads on his site), any way I bought a tap and die set from the HF and it cleaned the threads right up. I'll tell yo what I will almost have amassed a machine shop by the time I get this truck done, but proper tools make a job much more enjoyable, and this definitely wont be my last build. This is way to mentally stimulating, I just cant believe I waited 33 years to start trying this, I have always wanted to do something like this. Plus I have probably wasted a couple hundred thousand dollars buying brand new cars over the last 15 years, at 30 to 40 grand a pop and trading them in for 15 it doesn't take to long to lose a ton. Plus this is allot more fun, but definitely slower. I do like the Idea of being able to do anything myself.
I have built 2 and a half houses, modded a Harley V Rod, and now the yota. I am gaining madd skills, I'll have so much knowledge to share with my sons.

now for pictures of the new press and the pressed out bushings
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:34 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Saturday 10/18 dissasembled IFS driver side .................................................. ..........4 hours
wed 10/22/08 assembled shop press pressed out 2 bushings and tapped connecting shaft............................................. .................................................. ..................1.5 hrs
bought amsoil severe gear 75w90 for tranny trans case, adn front diff, 5w 30 wt oil for 3vze, synthetic grease for joints, and filter and pump.............................................. ...............$208.00
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running total............................................. ...................................$2760.30....... ...53 hours
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OK I removed the front third member (PITA) and took a lot of parts off it and installed the third member from the 4runner, with ADD. The third members are the same, but you have to remove the geared short shaft from the add system, before it will work with your non ADD Axel sleeve going to the driver side wheel. This almost threw me off, at first I thought it would not work. But if you take the 4runner third plate off and pop the short shaft out with a pry bar, then everything goes together nicely.
OK so I got all that installed and I put the energy bushings on the upper control arm. I reinstalled that and the T bars with new bolts, as both of the original bolts twisted in half. I put the whole front end back together with BJ spacers and OME N98 shocks. Next I measured the distance from top of the hub to the wheel well and made that match on both sides. I drove the truck this morning to work about 5 miles. the ride is tremendously improved. I badly need and alignment as I knew I would because of the BJ spacers, but taking the lift out of the T bars and using BJ spacers made all the difference in the world. I think the truck even sits a little higher, probably 1/2 inch T bar lift and 1.5 BJ spacer lift.
I'll get some pictures of the front IFS tomorrow, I was in a big hurry this weekend as they were calling for 30 degrees this morning, and I didn't want to ride the Harley in that cold. I still have to install my rear 4.56 third, that will go pretty quickly as I have done that a few times now. And I still have to put in the new Marlin clutch. Other than that and an alignment and the rest of the bushings, I am good to go for a while. I'll start studying and preparing for the propane conversion then, unless another problem presents it's self.
I have to say, all the work is finally paying off. the truck rides and drives soooooo much better now. I cant wait to have the time to take it wheeling.
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OK I have neglected my thread a little. I