Hello from Ukraine

Alex SS · 11-04-2009, 03:50 AM

Hello everyone.
I am here new. It has long found your wonderful forum and only now I decided to register.
I have a car: Great Wall Safe. Chinaautomobil

(clone of the Toyota 4runner and Hilux Surf135). Year: 2005, Mileage: 63K miles. Look at the photo:

For some time now engaged in preparing him to off-road.
On your forum found some unusual and very interesting solutions and decided to ask questions and read answers.

Thanks
PS: Sorry for my bad Inglish

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habanero · 11-04-2009, 04:53 AM

Howdy.

muddpigg · 11-04-2009, 07:00 AM

Welcome.

TubedYota · 11-04-2009, 07:02 AM

Welcome to the board

kiyobrown · 11-04-2009, 09:04 AM

Hi there. Thats a pretty sweet clone.

In your reading of some of the threads here, How close mechanically is your vehicle. Could you show us some more pics so we can see inside and out.

X-AWDriver · 11-04-2009, 09:10 AM

Welcome and that's a cool version of a 2nd gen and you are likely the sole owner of one of those on this forum so you got yourself in a very exclusive little club.

olharleyman · 11-04-2009, 09:11 AM

i HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE CHINESE CLONES BEFORE BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME i HAVE SEEN ONE LOOKS PRETTY INTERESTING GRILL EMBLEM LOOKS LIKE A NEWER STYLE BUICK I TO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING MORE OF THE TRUCK INSIDE ,ENGINE, SUSPENSION AND RUNNING GEAR
Opps sorry just noticed caps was locked

theAuthority · 11-04-2009, 09:13 AM

Welcome dude. Vehicles from your side of the world have always interested me.

More pics I say !

Lumpy · 11-04-2009, 09:22 AM

As the others have said Welcome!!!

Do like that rig...

Remember we love pictures especially when it's something that we don't have.

**aviator** · 11-04-2009, 09:23 AM

Welcome to the family... I like that front end the grill looks a little like a BMW
and the bumper is good too.
There was a thread here a few years ago about this truck when it appeared at one of the Autoshows in China. Try a search for Chinese 4runner or Chinaautomobil and it should come up.
If I remember the story right, body and mechanicals are almost identical to the 2gen 90-96 runner so you will find lots of good information here.

ps don't worry your english is fine.

chrishf12 · 11-04-2009, 09:37 AM

Wow thats interesting! I never knew the 4runners had that close of a clone. I like it its a mix between the 96-02 limited and the 90-95 body. I agree with aviator the grill makes it look like a BMW its the first thing I noticed. O and welcome to YT!

**aviator** · 11-04-2009, 10:08 AM

It looks that close because Chinaauto bought the tooling from Toyota.

theAuthority · 11-04-2009, 10:37 AM

so we could buy 2nd gen 4 runners that have 0 miles ?

chrishf12 · 11-04-2009, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAuthority

so we could buy 2nd gen 4 runners that have 0 miles ?

If you go to china LOL! This 2005 looks like it has a few upgrades from the US 2nd gen versions too.

theAuthority · 11-04-2009, 01:43 PM

so we could buy 2005 with almost no miles. chop it in half and ship it over here?

chrishf12 · 11-04-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAuthority

so we could buy 2005 with almost no miles. chop it in half and ship it over here?

Why would you chop it in half? imho I think it looks good whole!?!?

theAuthority · 11-04-2009, 02:01 PM

right but customs probably wouldn't allow the whole vehicle to come over because it wasn't tested to meet safety standards as of 2005 or whatever.

even though the tooling is from toyota, the quality or craftsmanship might not.

So to import, would have to chop it in half and have it shipped over and swap EVERY part with yours and bam.... JDM or whatever CDM (china domestic market) toyota 4runner

**aviator** · 11-04-2009, 02:06 PM

no reason to chop it... by an "unbranded" wreck from a yard and just swap the VIN over...
but check the rules generally speaking if it was apporved for europe it's good for here all you'd have to change would maybe be the bumper and lights [DRLs]

theAuthority · 11-04-2009, 02:10 PM

An unbranded wreck from what yard? One in china or usa ?

bigt · 11-04-2009, 04:09 PM

WOW!!!!

nice truck lets see some engine pics??

looks like my hilux surf!! but with some cool changes!!!

too bad it isnt right hand drive..

Alex SS · 11-05-2009, 03:20 AM

Thank you for your good greeting.
Try to analyze your answers and give the most information of interest. GoogleTranslate me to help!
I'll tell a few words about the car, and the photo will do a little later.
Motor: licensed Toyota Camry 2gen, 2.3 liter 491QE Multi-point Ele-fuel injection engine, 104horse-power, 190 torque.
Few read: http://www.gwm.com.cn/eng/html/models/safe_tech.asp
Chassis: fully identical to the 4Runner!
Frame: slightly modified 4runner
Chinese derated engine for petrol A92 (I think you have a Regular or 87). Consumption: average 10litr \ 100km (10 litres = 2.6 gallons)

i go make some foto

lets ask me more

Alex SS · 11-05-2009, 04:20 AM

OK. I make some foto.
Enjoy!
Engine:

Interier:

rear side:

Alex SS · 11-05-2009, 04:21 AM

If you want to see all photo:
http://picasaweb.google.com.ua/aneme...eat=directlink

Alex SS · 11-05-2009, 05:40 AM

I wonder whether there is a general Snorkels at Surf135? (106 130)
And how much it might cost? I am happy to buy.
Or I can barter. It takes someone lights?

Thanks

**aviator** · 11-05-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theAuthority

An unbranded wreck from what yard? One in china or usa ?

USA yard... most "write-offs" get "branded" by the ins. industry so they can't be repaired and resold. This is to prevent poorly repaired wrecks from being sold as gently used "cherries".

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kiyobrown Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 271	Hi there. Thats a pretty sweet clone. In your reading of some of the threads here, How close mechanically is your vehicle. Could you show us some more pics so we can see inside and out. __________________ Jason. 87 4runner 22re SR5 5 speed 189k, supra MAF mod, battery/intake swap, Black Magic 165, Zuk mod, BJ spacers. 3rd gen rims with 265/70/16s. Pioneer/Boston Acoustics/Kenwood/Fosgate sound system, softopper. Craigslist and rattle cans have done wonders.

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olharleyman Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 3,291	i HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE CHINESE CLONES BEFORE BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME i HAVE SEEN ONE LOOKS PRETTY INTERESTING GRILL EMBLEM LOOKS LIKE A NEWER STYLE BUICK I TO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING MORE OF THE TRUCK INSIDE ,ENGINE, SUSPENSION AND RUNNING GEAR Opps sorry just noticed caps was locked __________________ 1990 4 runner 5 Speed Pro Comp Stage II 4" Lift 6" coils rear Aussie Locker front 5.29's Front And Rear 35 x 12.5 x 15 MT's Micky Thompson Classic II Wheels Super Charged 3.4 on the way 1993 SAS 4runner 22re 5 speed 4" front 5"rear 5.29's 35 x 12.5 BFG KM'S Dick cepek DC 1's 88 stock 4runner 3.0 auto for now 1955 Harley Davidson Springer Stock 1955 Hardtail Frame 4 Speed Kick Start Only 1998 Harley Custom Dresser 107 rwhp 139 ft.lbs.trq.

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11-04-2009, 09:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,473	Welcome to the family... I like that front end the grill looks a little like a BMW and the bumper is good too. There was a thread here a few years ago about this truck when it appeared at one of the Autoshows in China. Try a search for Chinese 4runner or Chinaautomobil and it should come up. If I remember the story right, body and mechanicals are almost identical to the 2gen 90-96 runner so you will find lots of good information here. ps don't worry your english is fine. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way. Last edited by aviator; 11-04-2009 at 09:27 AM.

11-04-2009, 09:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
chrishf12 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 258	Wow thats interesting! I never knew the 4runners had that close of a clone. I like it its a mix between the 96-02 limited and the 90-95 body. I agree with aviator the grill makes it look like a BMW its the first thing I noticed. O and welcome to YT! __________________ Chris DD 1998 4runner 4x4 SR5, 3.4 Automatic, stock 98 4runner Profile Project 1990 Ext Cab Pickup 4x4 SR5, 3.0 5 speed, stock 1990 Buildup/Resto SOLD... 1990 4WD 22RE Pickup 5-speed, 3" lift, 32x11.50s, LOTS MORE... 1990 Profile

11-04-2009, 10:08 AM	#12 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,473	It looks that close because Chinaauto bought the tooling from Toyota. __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

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theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,664	so we could buy 2nd gen 4 runners that have 0 miles ? __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-04-2009, 01:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,664	so we could buy 2005 with almost no miles. chop it in half and ship it over here? __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-04-2009, 02:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,664	right but customs probably wouldn't allow the whole vehicle to come over because it wasn't tested to meet safety standards as of 2005 or whatever. even though the tooling is from toyota, the quality or craftsmanship might not. So to import, would have to chop it in half and have it shipped over and swap EVERY part with yours and bam.... JDM or whatever CDM (china domestic market) toyota 4runner __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-04-2009, 02:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
aviator Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: COTKU,Ontario,Canada Posts: 7,473	no reason to chop it... by an "unbranded" wreck from a yard and just swap the VIN over... but check the rules generally speaking if it was apporved for europe it's good for here all you'd have to change would maybe be the bumper and lights [DRLs] __________________ Silver 1994 Hilux Xtra cab 4x4 3.0 K&N cone filter, ported MAF, advanced timing, oversize exhaust, free flow cat, "rumble" muffler custom covered SR5 seats, map lights, factory AC tv4184 style black interior conversion started mods to come... header, custom centre console, stereo upgrade tinted windows Founding member 1972TLC fan club - Get well soon Mary Toyota Hilux... Get in or Get out of the way.

11-04-2009, 02:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,664	An unbranded wreck from what yard? One in china or usa ? __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-04-2009, 04:09 PM	#20 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,201	WOW!!!! nice truck lets see some engine pics?? looks like my hilux surf!! but with some cool changes!!! too bad it isnt right hand drive.. __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

11-05-2009, 03:20 AM	#21 (permalink)
Alex SS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ukraine, Kiev Posts: 9	Thank you for your good greeting. Try to analyze your answers and give the most information of interest. GoogleTranslate me to help! I'll tell a few words about the car, and the photo will do a little later. Motor: licensed Toyota Camry 2gen, 2.3 liter 491QE Multi-point Ele-fuel injection engine, 104horse-power, 190 torque. Few read: http://www.gwm.com.cn/eng/html/models/safe_tech.asp Chassis: fully identical to the 4Runner! Frame: slightly modified 4runner Chinese derated engine for petrol A92 (I think you have a Regular or 87). Consumption: average 10litr \ 100km (10 litres = 2.6 gallons) i go make some foto lets ask me more

11-05-2009, 04:20 AM	#22 (permalink)
Alex SS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ukraine, Kiev Posts: 9	OK. I make some foto. Enjoy! Engine: Interier: rear side:

11-05-2009, 04:21 AM	#23 (permalink)
Alex SS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ukraine, Kiev Posts: 9	If you want to see all photo: http://picasaweb.google.com.ua/aneme...eat=directlink

11-05-2009, 05:40 AM	#24 (permalink)
Alex SS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ukraine, Kiev Posts: 9	I wonder whether there is a general Snorkels at Surf135? (106 130) And how much it might cost? I am happy to buy. Or I can barter. It takes someone lights? Thanks

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