New tow rig... 04 Dodge

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 10:25 AM

Well, sold the tacoma and got my new DD and tow rig...

04 Cummins, Auto, 4WD, Laramie, Sport, all the goodies (adj pedals, heated mirrors, navigation, etc...)

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eighty5yota · 10-17-2008, 11:17 AM

PROPANE INJECTION

**DeathCougar** · 10-17-2008, 11:45 AM

The only thing that would make that rig better would be a 6speed

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 11:46 AM

didnt really want a six speed....

**DeathCougar** · 10-17-2008, 11:49 AM

With Dodges reputation regarding autos, you'll kick yourself later.

I hate my Auto in my '99 dodge. Already been through 2 torque converters and a front pump (thank god for warranties)

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 11:59 AM

Mines got the 48LE... much better than the earlier ones... The older ones had a REAL bad tranny... if you left it in park running, it wouldnt run the pump and fry the tranny... (from what I've heard) The tranny was improved in 04 with the 48LE for the new HO motor. If I have any problems it will most likely be with the torque converter... I've got an 8/80K warranty on it which will cover any problems I might have... after that, as soon as it gives me problems I'm pullin it and having a sweet tranny built by these guys: http://www.goerend.com/standardduty.php

**DeathCougar** · 10-17-2008, 12:01 PM

I leave mine in park all the time, since I have a turbo timer. I cannot put the truck in neutral and pull the key out, so I have to go to park while the turbo timer runs.

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 12:04 PM

hmmm... I was told by several that it doesnt spin the pump, or power the lube circuit in park, causing all kinds of problems.

Belize Off Road Team · 10-17-2008, 12:14 PM

Fantastic trucks, will take a beating. The only thing i worn you about now is the fuel pump. We had big issues with those in our units. We had 5 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins turbo, and all 5 fuel pumps had to be replaced. Same issue with our 03 burbans, except that even the news ones crapped out the new dodge ones did not.

Napoleon047 · 10-17-2008, 12:18 PM

How much? (If you dont mind me asking) Diesels are cheap these days.

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 12:19 PM

ya I know about the lift pumps... I'm going to replace it later with an 05 or newer.. if it fails, it will at least fail open and the CP3 injection pump will still pull from the tank and let ya get home.

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 12:21 PM

Peter, more than it should have been... I coulda got one a CRAPLOAD cheaper, but not near as nice, as low of mileage, as well appointed, as well loaded, certified used with a Dealer 8/80K warranty... Take whatever you can get one for around now and add 5K... I did do a lot of shopping around and none of them were as "tight" and sound as this one... I figure it was worth what I paid in piece of mind.

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 12:24 PM

I also drove a bunch of other ones, and you could tell the difference in the transmissions... I figure they had pulled something, I dont think this thing has ever pulled anything in its life...

Napoleon047 · 10-17-2008, 12:27 PM

I see, there are still a lot of "gas prices/gas mileage" trade-ins around here. Just the other day, I poked around an 01 dodge 1-ton for $9K and a 99 Ford 3/4Ton for $6k.

Edit: If either one were a manual, I might looked at it a bit more.

Belize Off Road Team · 10-17-2008, 12:27 PM

What are you plans for chips and things like that? or leaving it stock?

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 12:31 PM

Peter... thats not too bad.. Ford definately run cheaper, but get a 7.3... DONT TOUCH A 6.0L. IF you really are thinkin about getting one, go for an 03+ dodge, 05+ if you can bag it... but stay away from the 08+ with the 6.7L. or any duramax... but get the allison..

Phyl, no plans at the moment... if I do anything it will be a programmer to tune it down a bit for better mileage... Then if need be bump it back up to stock to pull. Also need a hideaway gooseneck hitch and some decent walled floor mats. Also going to put some black nerf bars and possibly a bull bar on it to help get in the sucker and mount some KCs on it.

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 12:33 PM

Peter, I wouldnt have minded gettin a duramax, but I wanted 4 full doors and didnt want a super long truck... the dodge is 140" WB which was the same as the taco, the shortest 4dr duramax is 153"... too long for my tastes.. If I was just using to pull, i wouldnt have minded but in and out of walmart and things like that, long trucks drive me nuts.

Napoleon047 · 10-17-2008, 12:40 PM

Im not in a position where I need to tow. My 4runner is still streetable (mostly) and if I get to the point where I want to tow, I'll just strip it down to a formula toy or the likes so its light enough to pull behind the FZJ or a used Tundra.

BTW: Whats the plan with your 4runner (or whats left?)

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 12:58 PM

sell it.. wanna buy it? Its a great starter for someone... and its goina be cheap. like 250 bucks cheap. (and clear title)

**DeathCougar** · 10-17-2008, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colsoncj

hmmm... I was told by several that it doesnt spin the pump, or power the lube circuit in park, causing all kinds of problems.

I have heard the same thing. It sucks

Cargun · 10-17-2008, 02:15 PM

Welcome to the club! I knew you were just delaying the inevitable with all those other vehicles

I see you scored a Laramie 'H' package with the manual shift transfer case. Well worth losing the heated seats for, I hate electronic t-cases.

I laugh at all the "I can't afford to own a diesel truck because of gas prices" excuses everytime I fill up. Last 2 tanks were 21.0 and 19.5 mpg, mostly city driving. Not bad when I consider my 4Runner gets 23mpg despite weighing 3000+ lbs less and having 1/5 the torque and 1/3 the horsepower.

And for those worried about it being an auto.... Cory and I had several therapy sessions where he went over the pros/cons of each to figure out which was best. Being on my 3rd Dodge truck and having driven a pair of d-maxes for extended periods of time, it was a debate I was very familiar with.

Cargun · 10-17-2008, 02:23 PM

Oh, and now that you got it... PM me with your address and list of parts you want.

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 04:03 PM

Thanks Hans... will do. And yes, several "therapy" sessions later.... I'm still glad I got the auto. Now, how do you tell if its got a limited slip/locker or whatever dodge uses?

colsoncj · 10-17-2008, 04:07 PM

Also, Hans, when is broke in for the cummins in terms of mileage... and driving style while breaking in... nurse it, drive it like I stole it or some combination?

**DeathCougar** · 10-17-2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colsoncj

Thanks Hans... will do. And yes, several "therapy" sessions later.... I'm still glad I got the auto. Now, how do you tell if its got a limited slip/locker or whatever dodge uses?

The info sticker under the hood will tell you the gear ratio and open or limited slip.

You can also call the dealer with the VIN and they can tell you.

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10-17-2008, 11:46 AM	#4 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	didnt really want a six speed.... __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 11:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Mines got the 48LE... much better than the earlier ones... The older ones had a REAL bad tranny... if you left it in park running, it wouldnt run the pump and fry the tranny... (from what I've heard) The tranny was improved in 04 with the 48LE for the new HO motor. If I have any problems it will most likely be with the torque converter... I've got an 8/80K warranty on it which will cover any problems I might have... after that, as soon as it gives me problems I'm pullin it and having a sweet tranny built by these guys: http://www.goerend.com/standardduty.php __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done. Last edited by colsoncj; 10-17-2008 at 12:03 PM.

10-17-2008, 12:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	hmmm... I was told by several that it doesnt spin the pump, or power the lube circuit in park, causing all kinds of problems. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 12:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	Fantastic trucks, will take a beating. The only thing i worn you about now is the fuel pump. We had big issues with those in our units. We had 5 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins turbo, and all 5 fuel pumps had to be replaced. Same issue with our 03 burbans, except that even the news ones crapped out the new dodge ones did not. __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

10-17-2008, 12:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	How much? (If you dont mind me asking) Diesels are cheap these days. __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

10-17-2008, 12:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	ya I know about the lift pumps... I'm going to replace it later with an 05 or newer.. if it fails, it will at least fail open and the CP3 injection pump will still pull from the tank and let ya get home. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 12:21 PM	#12 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Peter, more than it should have been... I coulda got one a CRAPLOAD cheaper, but not near as nice, as low of mileage, as well appointed, as well loaded, certified used with a Dealer 8/80K warranty... Take whatever you can get one for around now and add 5K... I did do a lot of shopping around and none of them were as "tight" and sound as this one... I figure it was worth what I paid in piece of mind. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 12:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	I also drove a bunch of other ones, and you could tell the difference in the transmissions... I figure they had pulled something, I dont think this thing has ever pulled anything in its life... __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 12:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	I see, there are still a lot of "gas prices/gas mileage" trade-ins around here. Just the other day, I poked around an 01 dodge 1-ton for $9K and a 99 Ford 3/4Ton for $6k. Edit: If either one were a manual, I might looked at it a bit more. __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs Last edited by Napoleon047; 10-17-2008 at 12:29 PM.

10-17-2008, 12:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
Belize Off Road Team Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Corozal Town, Belize Posts: 2,752	What are you plans for chips and things like that? or leaving it stock? __________________ -Phyl 1991 Hilux Surf SSR-G Petrol 3.0L V6 200,000kms l Rancho RS5000 l 31"x10.50"xR15 Pro Comp Xterrain l K&N Air Filter l PP 1" Lift Coil Springs l Optima Blue Top l 12" JBL Subs l Alpine Type R l 80/100W Hella H4 l 1st Gen Roll Bar Mod l FT/RR Diff. Breathers l Smittybilt XRC8 Winch l ARB Bull Bar l トヨタ\|NEVER QUIT

10-17-2008, 12:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Peter... thats not too bad.. Ford definately run cheaper, but get a 7.3... DONT TOUCH A 6.0L. IF you really are thinkin about getting one, go for an 03+ dodge, 05+ if you can bag it... but stay away from the 08+ with the 6.7L. or any duramax... but get the allison.. Phyl, no plans at the moment... if I do anything it will be a programmer to tune it down a bit for better mileage... Then if need be bump it back up to stock to pull. Also need a hideaway gooseneck hitch and some decent walled floor mats. Also going to put some black nerf bars and possibly a bull bar on it to help get in the sucker and mount some KCs on it. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 12:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Peter, I wouldnt have minded gettin a duramax, but I wanted 4 full doors and didnt want a super long truck... the dodge is 140" WB which was the same as the taco, the shortest 4dr duramax is 153"... too long for my tastes.. If I was just using to pull, i wouldnt have minded but in and out of walmart and things like that, long trucks drive me nuts. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 12:40 PM	#18 (permalink)
Napoleon047 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 995	Im not in a position where I need to tow. My 4runner is still streetable (mostly) and if I get to the point where I want to tow, I'll just strip it down to a formula toy or the likes so its light enough to pull behind the FZJ or a used Tundra. BTW: Whats the plan with your 4runner (or whats left?) __________________ -Peter 86 4runner SAS - Trail Rig 94 FZJ80 - DD the dirt cheap SAS Marko Customs

10-17-2008, 12:58 PM	#19 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	sell it.. wanna buy it? Its a great starter for someone... and its goina be cheap. like 250 bucks cheap. (and clear title) __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 02:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
Cargun Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 483	Welcome to the club! I knew you were just delaying the inevitable with all those other vehicles I see you scored a Laramie 'H' package with the manual shift transfer case. Well worth losing the heated seats for, I hate electronic t-cases. I laugh at all the "I can't afford to own a diesel truck because of gas prices" excuses everytime I fill up. Last 2 tanks were 21.0 and 19.5 mpg, mostly city driving. Not bad when I consider my 4Runner gets 23mpg despite weighing 3000+ lbs less and having 1/5 the torque and 1/3 the horsepower. And for those worried about it being an auto.... Cory and I had several therapy sessions where he went over the pros/cons of each to figure out which was best. Being on my 3rd Dodge truck and having driven a pair of d-maxes for extended periods of time, it was a debate I was very familiar with. __________________ I own 11 vehicles... 10 of which are ongoing projects. I need to sell some stuff so I can turn the 11th into a project. Let me know if you're in need of a Yota transfer case, solid front axle, 22R motor, or rear axleshafts. I promise all proceeds will be directed back into the local 4x4 economy (Ok... Marlin may get some of the money) . Last edited by Cargun; 10-17-2008 at 02:19 PM.

10-17-2008, 02:23 PM	#22 (permalink)
Cargun Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 483	Oh, and now that you got it... PM me with your address and list of parts you want. __________________ I own 11 vehicles... 10 of which are ongoing projects. I need to sell some stuff so I can turn the 11th into a project. Let me know if you're in need of a Yota transfer case, solid front axle, 22R motor, or rear axleshafts. I promise all proceeds will be directed back into the local 4x4 economy (Ok... Marlin may get some of the money) .

10-17-2008, 04:03 PM	#23 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Thanks Hans... will do. And yes, several "therapy" sessions later.... I'm still glad I got the auto. Now, how do you tell if its got a limited slip/locker or whatever dodge uses? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

10-17-2008, 04:07 PM	#24 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	Also, Hans, when is broke in for the cummins in terms of mileage... and driving style while breaking in... nurse it, drive it like I stole it or some combination? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

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