22RE issue

ADH8796 · 11-13-2008, 12:27 PM

It seems my second cylinder isn't firing. I have a lot of exhaust noise when accelerating. But here's the weird part the other day I went for a 45 min drive and just like that the secon d cylinder started firing and wow what a difference it made. Ran great all day long after that but when I got home and let it sit overnight my problem came right back. Any idea's?

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Cargun · 11-13-2008, 02:02 PM

Watch it idle at night, it's better than the 4th of July. Cory's spark plug wire routing leaves something to be desired

colsoncj · 11-16-2008, 02:35 PM

I think what hes trying to say is check for miss-firing due to sparkplug wires or bad plugs.

ADH8796 · 11-21-2008, 05:28 AM

new plugs and wires so I know that's not the problem (I checked all of them to make sure)

axman667794pickup · 11-21-2008, 07:15 AM

you seen any oil leaks around the head gasket?

ADH8796 · 11-21-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axman667794pickup

you seen any oil leaks around the head gasket?

Nope not at all

soarerjzz30 · 11-21-2008, 02:50 PM

Clogged injector??

ADH8796 · 11-22-2008, 01:52 PM

Nope I checked that too and still no luck

olharleyman · 11-22-2008, 02:03 PM

fouled plug? even new they can be bad ya know I just had this happen with my 3.no and thats what the issue was , brand new Nippion Denso plugs even

ADH8796 · 11-23-2008, 02:30 PM

Nope all the plugs are good. Moved them around a few times and the second cylinder is the only thing not firing.

colsoncj · 11-23-2008, 05:13 PM

what about distributor cap and rotor?

ADH8796 · 11-23-2008, 06:20 PM

Cap and rotor look good but I haven't replaced it or anything. I've pulled the plug wire on the 2nd cylinder while the engine is running and it apears to be working just fine.

colsoncj · 11-23-2008, 10:17 PM

how do you know the second cylinder isnt firing?

ADH8796 · 11-24-2008, 06:06 PM

When I pull the plug on the second cylinder nothing changes at all.

colsoncj · 11-24-2008, 10:52 PM

ok, leave the plug attached to the ignition wire, ground the plug on the valve cover gasket and start the motor. then see if the plug itself is firing, lemme know what you find.

**waskillywabbit** · 11-25-2008, 05:46 AM

Toyota or aftermarket plug wires?

Some of that cheap aftermarket Toyota stuf is just that...cheap crap.

Had a buddy with the exact same problem and it was his new aftermarket plug wires.

ADH8796 · 11-25-2008, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colsoncj

ok, leave the plug attached to the ignition wire, ground the plug on the valve cover gasket and start the motor. then see if the plug itself is firing, lemme know what you find.

Yes the plug is firing when grounded to he balve gasket. And it's clear that the cylinder is building plenty of compression (crazy loud). It seems like the only think that might make since is that fuel isn't getting into the cylinder. But I don't know?!?!

colsoncj · 11-25-2008, 08:35 PM

ya, you've got a fuel issue... check the connector on the fuel injector to make sure its securely on there... if it is, I'd say look into getting some injectors (I have a few lying around)

ADH8796 · 11-26-2008, 08:54 AM

The connection is good. I moved the injector from cylinder 1 to cylinder 2 because I knew it was working in cylinder 1. Anyway it's not working in cylinder 2 so I'm thinking something is wrong with the wiring for cylinder 2 injector (it's not the actuall injector). But I'm not really sure where to start as far as finding the problem.

colsoncj · 11-26-2008, 10:01 AM

are you leaking fuel out around the injector or do you have any kind of gas smell, and is the injector properly seated?

I'd almost be tempted to pull the connector off of the injector and check it for voltage signals using a multimeter

ADH8796 · 11-26-2008, 12:57 PM

Not leaking any fuel (no fuel smells) and the injector is seated properly.

Being that you have to take the whole intake manifold off to get to the #2 injector I'm not sure how I'd check to see if it had voltage without putting everything back together and leaving the plug in a place where I could actually get to it.

colsoncj · 11-26-2008, 08:08 PM

maybe pull the schematic for it and see if you can tap into it at the computer?

ADH8796 · 12-07-2008, 02:49 PM

new symptom I now only have two cylinders the 1st and the 2nd aren't firing

colsoncj · 12-07-2008, 07:09 PM

so no fire with the spark plug grounded on the valve cover?

Cargun · 12-08-2008, 10:46 AM

Follow the FI harness from the injectors all the way back to the computer. Sounds like the harness may be chaffed/pinched.

11-13-2008, 02:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
Cargun Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 483	Watch it idle at night, it's better than the 4th of July. Cory's spark plug wire routing leaves something to be desired __________________ I own 11 vehicles... 10 of which are ongoing projects. I need to sell some stuff so I can turn the 11th into a project. Let me know if you're in need of a Yota transfer case, solid front axle, 22R motor, or rear axleshafts. I promise all proceeds will be directed back into the local 4x4 economy (Ok... Marlin may get some of the money) .

11-16-2008, 02:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	I think what hes trying to say is check for miss-firing due to sparkplug wires or bad plugs. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

11-21-2008, 05:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
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11-21-2008, 07:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
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11-21-2008, 02:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
soarerjzz30 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas Posts: 270	Clogged injector?? Last edited by soarerjzz30; 11-21-2008 at 02:51 PM.

11-22-2008, 01:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,073	Nope I checked that too and still no luck __________________ SOLDBlack '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

11-22-2008, 02:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
olharleyman Contributing Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 3,291	fouled plug? even new they can be bad ya know I just had this happen with my 3.no and thats what the issue was , brand new Nippion Denso plugs even __________________ 1990 4 runner 5 Speed Pro Comp Stage II 4" Lift 6" coils rear Aussie Locker front 5.29's Front And Rear 35 x 12.5 x 15 MT's Micky Thompson Classic II Wheels Super Charged 3.4 on the way 1993 SAS 4runner 22re 5 speed 4" front 5"rear 5.29's 35 x 12.5 BFG KM'S Dick cepek DC 1's 88 stock 4runner 3.0 auto for now 1955 Harley Davidson Springer Stock 1955 Hardtail Frame 4 Speed Kick Start Only 1998 Harley Custom Dresser 107 rwhp 139 ft.lbs.trq.

11-23-2008, 02:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,073	Nope all the plugs are good. Moved them around a few times and the second cylinder is the only thing not firing. __________________ SOLDBlack '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

11-23-2008, 05:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	what about distributor cap and rotor? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

11-23-2008, 06:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,073	Cap and rotor look good but I haven't replaced it or anything. I've pulled the plug wire on the 2nd cylinder while the engine is running and it apears to be working just fine. __________________ SOLDBlack '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

11-23-2008, 10:17 PM	#13 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	how do you know the second cylinder isnt firing? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

11-24-2008, 06:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,073	When I pull the plug on the second cylinder nothing changes at all. __________________ SOLDBlack '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

11-24-2008, 10:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	ok, leave the plug attached to the ignition wire, ground the plug on the valve cover gasket and start the motor. then see if the plug itself is firing, lemme know what you find. __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

11-25-2008, 05:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,546	Toyota or aftermarket plug wires? Some of that cheap aftermarket Toyota stuf is just that...cheap crap. Had a buddy with the exact same problem and it was his new aftermarket plug wires. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

11-25-2008, 08:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	ya, you've got a fuel issue... check the connector on the fuel injector to make sure its securely on there... if it is, I'd say look into getting some injectors (I have a few lying around) __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

11-26-2008, 08:54 AM	#19 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,073	The connection is good. I moved the injector from cylinder 1 to cylinder 2 because I knew it was working in cylinder 1. Anyway it's not working in cylinder 2 so I'm thinking something is wrong with the wiring for cylinder 2 injector (it's not the actuall injector). But I'm not really sure where to start as far as finding the problem. __________________ SOLDBlack '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

11-26-2008, 10:01 AM	#20 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	are you leaking fuel out around the injector or do you have any kind of gas smell, and is the injector properly seated? I'd almost be tempted to pull the connector off of the injector and check it for voltage signals using a multimeter __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

11-26-2008, 12:57 PM	#21 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,073	Not leaking any fuel (no fuel smells) and the injector is seated properly. Being that you have to take the whole intake manifold off to get to the #2 injector I'm not sure how I'd check to see if it had voltage without putting everything back together and leaving the plug in a place where I could actually get to it. __________________ SOLDBlack '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

11-26-2008, 08:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	maybe pull the schematic for it and see if you can tap into it at the computer? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

12-07-2008, 02:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
ADH8796 Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fayetteville, AR Posts: 1,073	new symptom I now only have two cylinders the 1st and the 2nd aren't firing __________________ SOLDBlack '99 4Runner Highlander Edition SOLD '98 4Runner Limited Edition

12-07-2008, 07:09 PM	#24 (permalink)
colsoncj Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monett, MO (Springfield) Posts: 2,533	so no fire with the spark plug grounded on the valve cover? __________________ Cory Eastern OK, Western/Northern AR, Southeastern KS, or Southern MO area: OZARKS 4ROC Click Here 04 Dodge 2500 Cummins - DD/Tow Rig 02 Z06 Corvette - Weekender 94 FZJ80 - Wheelin Rig. Build in progress: http://ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129727 72 Buick GS - i.e. the project that will never get done.

12-08-2008, 10:46 AM	#25 (permalink)
Cargun Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 483	Follow the FI harness from the injectors all the way back to the computer. Sounds like the harness may be chaffed/pinched. __________________ I own 11 vehicles... 10 of which are ongoing projects. I need to sell some stuff so I can turn the 11th into a project. Let me know if you're in need of a Yota transfer case, solid front axle, 22R motor, or rear axleshafts. I promise all proceeds will be directed back into the local 4x4 economy (Ok... Marlin may get some of the money) .

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