WHY are they doing this to me? NJ laws suck

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 10:06 PM

its almost impossible to even go wheelin in NJ now. New laws were passed against ATVs/Bikes/4wheelers in ALL local state forests. If your caught in there, you can get a $500 fine, impoundment of vehicle, have to pay for towing and pay upto a $200 fine to the state forest..not to mention POSSIBLE 2 year suspension of lisence depending on severity of fine. WHAT THE HECK!? Its almost not even worth having a 4wheel truck. I'm gonna be freaked out a my mind to even pop it in 4wd now. I can;t afford any of those fines, and its just ridiculous. Anybody else from Jersey worried? Why drive a lifted truck, if we can;t use them

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Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:16 PM

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?! That really bites the big one man. Sorry to hear, but I guess the saying is true, a few bad apples spoil the bunch.

ocdropzone · 12-12-2007, 10:18 PM

I feel for you...I lived in NY for 5 years...seemed to be absolutely no place to wheel unless you knew someone with a farm..I had some pretty good wheeling on Ft. Drum though...
Good luck to you and keep hammering you local state rep to get it fixed!

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 10:21 PM

Sadly..i dont think this one is getting fixed guys. Its been a LONG fight...and we lost it. I dont know where that puts me with my truck, and the same with my buddies. Why drive lifted offroad trucks...when we are FORCED to stay on paved roads

Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:25 PM

Well, that really bites. If it was me, I would buy a set of A/T's and drive the truck like that. I love my truck too much to get rid of it just because I can't wheel.

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 10:27 PM

I have a set of 3 ATs on it now..i swapped from the 36s to the 33s for now. That is, until we can figure out whats going on with our wheeling!

Justinvd · 12-12-2007, 10:30 PM

Move to British Columbia, Canada, haha there are no air care laws here and enough bush to freaking get yourself lost for years. Cops are way more slack too just dont get cuaght going through any rivers and your golden

Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justinvd

Move to British Columbia, Canada, haha there are no air care laws here and enough bush to freaking get yourself lost for years. Cops are way more slack too just dont get cuaght going through any rivers and your golden

Heheh, if you like that. Stay up north in BC.
Here in southern bc we have yearly aircare, and cops that are tough on off road rigs.

Justinvd · 12-12-2007, 10:36 PM

I am only 4 hours north of Vancouver. Do you know where Powell River is Jay?

ocdropzone · 12-12-2007, 10:38 PM

Did you get the situation with your used 36's straightened out? you have been getting hit with both barrels....

AxleIke · 12-12-2007, 10:40 PM

I'm very sorry to hear this.

I feel bad for you.

I hope that those who feel tread lightly is a waste of time will benefit from this knowledge. It's a real problem.

Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justinvd

I am only 4 hours north of Vancouver. Do you know where Powell River is Jay?

Sad enough to say, no. I know the general area but... no

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 10:46 PM

i may end up sellin her..but i dont know

Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:48 PM

Noooo!! Stupid laws.

Justinvd · 12-12-2007, 10:51 PM

You take a ferry at horshoe bay and go up the through seashelt and then another ferry to powell river. If you didn't have to take a ferry and could drive it would only be like 2 hours away. If you ever get the chance to come up here do it. There are enough trails to to keep you busy for the rest of your life. There is a guy in town that builds trails, thats all he does, he is a legend here. Oh and sorry about the thread jack, i feel sorry for you and your rig, i would go insane, i crave 4x4ing, every day of the week, thats why i go out at night after work in the dark and bad things happen like when i crash and roll my truck.

Whatever you do, dont sell your truck man, i wanted to sell my runner a while back and i could have gotten more than i wanted for it but after all the work and time i have spent it was impossible. Keep it and just wait untill you move to another state

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 10:51 PM

I know Jay..but what can I use it for? I cant camp in Nj,I cant go 4wheeling in NJ..and with college and work time is hard to find. meaning, its hard to drive 3 hours to go wheeling, and drive 3 hours home. I LOVE my truck...but Im at th epoint where im not seeing the point of owning it, if I cant wheel it and use it for what i built it for.

CoedNaked · 12-12-2007, 10:52 PM

Yup - time to move, although we don't have any cushy NFL jobs though up here in BC. But you'll have thousands and thousands of miles of all sorts of trails - from class 1 easy logging roads to the extreme and nearly impossible.

Plus, you could get your dog sled license too if you move up here!

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 10:54 PM

not really wanting to move guys..so dont suggest it anymore. Looking for real solutions, and real advice.

Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:55 PM

!!! dogsled licence

Well, I don't think we can really offer any more help, sad to say. Law's the law, I hope you keep the truck but I guess you have to do what you have to do.

Start a petiton, get TONS of signatures, try to get a 4x4 park or somthing. Its a start right? Or get all the 4x4 guys to pitch in, buy a plot of land, and make your own wheeling area.

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 10:56 PM

^ yea honestly...like THATS going to make me want to move? This is the worst week ever.

Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justinvd

You take a ferry at horshoe bay and go up the through seashelt and then another ferry to powell river. If you didn't have to take a ferry and could drive it would only be like 2 hours away. If you ever get the chance to come up here do it. There are enough trails to to keep you busy for the rest of your life. There is a guy in town that builds trails, thats all he does, he is a legend here. Oh and sorry about the thread jack, i feel sorry for you and your rig, i would go insane, i crave 4x4ing, every day of the week, thats why i go out at night after work in the dark and bad things happen like when i crash and roll my truck.

Whatever you do, dont sell your truck man, i wanted to sell my runner a while back and i could have gotten more than i wanted for it but after all the work and time i have spent it was impossible. Keep it and just wait untill you move to another state

Thats not too far, farthest I usually go up north is whistler though

Have been up to prince george though. Might have to make my way up there somtime in the future

*thread jack over!!*

Justinvd · 12-12-2007, 10:58 PM

Well if your going to school and you truck is your DD doesn't look like you have much choice. Sorry to hear that

Jay351 · 12-12-2007, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma750

^ yea honestly...like THATS going to make me want to move? This is the worst week ever.

Try to keep your head up bro, get the wheel in motion on this. It could snowball and before you know it, it will be all good again!!

Tacoma750 · 12-12-2007, 11:04 PM

doubt it. NJ officials are Aholes. It is not going to change anytime soon. I may sell the truck and just use my little drifter car as my DD. Its a 90 miata, runs amazing and is a BLAST to drive.

4runnerguy · 12-12-2007, 11:13 PM

that is so stupid if they shutdown off road places its like shuting down a major highway. there was a couple of months but the government shutdown the trails here on ontariomississauga but most people still keped on goin until they opend it again cause they can keep givin us tickets

12-12-2007, 10:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
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12-12-2007, 10:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,706	I feel for you...I lived in NY for 5 years...seemed to be absolutely no place to wheel unless you knew someone with a farm..I had some pretty good wheeling on Ft. Drum though... Good luck to you and keep hammering you local state rep to get it fixed! __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

12-12-2007, 10:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	Sadly..i dont think this one is getting fixed guys. Its been a LONG fight...and we lost it. I dont know where that puts me with my truck, and the same with my buddies. Why drive lifted offroad trucks...when we are FORCED to stay on paved roads __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

12-12-2007, 10:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	Well, that really bites. If it was me, I would buy a set of A/T's and drive the truck like that. I love my truck too much to get rid of it just because I can't wheel. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

12-12-2007, 10:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	I have a set of 3 ATs on it now..i swapped from the 36s to the 33s for now. That is, until we can figure out whats going on with our wheeling! __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

12-12-2007, 10:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
Justinvd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: B.C Posts: 736	Move to British Columbia, Canada, haha there are no air care laws here and enough bush to freaking get yourself lost for years. Cops are way more slack too just dont get cuaght going through any rivers and your golden

12-12-2007, 10:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Justinvd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: B.C Posts: 736	I am only 4 hours north of Vancouver. Do you know where Powell River is Jay?

12-12-2007, 10:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,706	Did you get the situation with your used 36's straightened out? you have been getting hit with both barrels.... __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

12-12-2007, 10:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
AxleIke Contributing Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boulder, Colorado Posts: 4,887	I'm very sorry to hear this. I feel bad for you. I hope that those who feel tread lightly is a waste of time will benefit from this knowledge. It's a real problem. __________________ 1987 Mutant 4runner\|Slightly Modified\|Lacking general build direction -Lifts and Tires look cool at the Mall, Lockers and Gears look cool on the trail. -Internet Nice Guy

12-12-2007, 10:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	i may end up sellin her..but i dont know __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

12-12-2007, 10:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	Noooo!! Stupid laws. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486

12-12-2007, 10:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
Justinvd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: B.C Posts: 736	You take a ferry at horshoe bay and go up the through seashelt and then another ferry to powell river. If you didn't have to take a ferry and could drive it would only be like 2 hours away. If you ever get the chance to come up here do it. There are enough trails to to keep you busy for the rest of your life. There is a guy in town that builds trails, thats all he does, he is a legend here. Oh and sorry about the thread jack, i feel sorry for you and your rig, i would go insane, i crave 4x4ing, every day of the week, thats why i go out at night after work in the dark and bad things happen like when i crash and roll my truck. Whatever you do, dont sell your truck man, i wanted to sell my runner a while back and i could have gotten more than i wanted for it but after all the work and time i have spent it was impossible. Keep it and just wait untill you move to another state Last edited by Justinvd; 12-12-2007 at 10:52 PM.

12-12-2007, 10:51 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	I know Jay..but what can I use it for? I cant camp in Nj,I cant go 4wheeling in NJ..and with college and work time is hard to find. meaning, its hard to drive 3 hours to go wheeling, and drive 3 hours home. I LOVE my truck...but Im at th epoint where im not seeing the point of owning it, if I cant wheel it and use it for what i built it for. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

12-12-2007, 10:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
CoedNaked Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 1,473	Yup - time to move, although we don't have any cushy NFL jobs though up here in BC. But you'll have thousands and thousands of miles of all sorts of trails - from class 1 easy logging roads to the extreme and nearly impossible. Plus, you could get your dog sled license too if you move up here! __________________ 1993 Xtra Cab Pickup \| 4x4 \| 3.0 - V6 \| R150F \| Silver-Grey \| Amsoil 10w30 synthetic oil \| Amsoil Synthetic Drivetrain fluids\| Borla Cat-back Exhaust \| OME HD Leaf Springs \| Bilstein HD Shocks \| Downey Idler Arm Brace \| Grey Husky Liners \| SR5 Bucket Seat Swap \| Color matched Canopy \| Yakima racks \| Line-X OTR \| Michelin LTX A/T 31 x 10.5 x 15 \| 323,600 KM's (202,250 miles) \| Made in Japan - Vin starts with "J"\| Fish on

12-12-2007, 10:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	not really wanting to move guys..so dont suggest it anymore. Looking for real solutions, and real advice. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

12-12-2007, 10:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jay351 Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: maple ridge, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,630	!!! dogsled licence Well, I don't think we can really offer any more help, sad to say. Law's the law, I hope you keep the truck but I guess you have to do what you have to do. Start a petiton, get TONS of signatures, try to get a 4x4 park or somthing. Its a start right? Or get all the 4x4 guys to pitch in, buy a plot of land, and make your own wheeling area. __________________ 91 Pickup - xcab - 5sp - 3.0 - SR5 - 4x4 - 250k \|2.25" catback w/ magnaflow cat + glasspack \| Weasy2k cams \| Aisin manual hubs \| Diff breather mod\| Marlin HD clutch \|3" BL \| es3000's \|2" AAL \|1.5" bj spacers \| ISR \| Alpine headunit \| 4" Infinity fronts/5" rears \| 4.88's \|Rear lockright \| 33x12.50" BFG M/T on 15x8" steelies \|Hella 500's \|4" reverse lights\| Grant GT \|idler arm brace\|hella E-codes\| Marlin armor \|SS IFS brace \| %100 Amsoil synthetic http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2572486 Last edited by Jay351; 12-12-2007 at 10:56 PM.

12-12-2007, 10:56 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	^ yea honestly...like THATS going to make me want to move? This is the worst week ever. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

12-12-2007, 10:58 PM	#22 (permalink)
Justinvd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: B.C Posts: 736	Well if your going to school and you truck is your DD doesn't look like you have much choice. Sorry to hear that

12-12-2007, 11:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
Tacoma750 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,237	doubt it. NJ officials are Aholes. It is not going to change anytime soon. I may sell the truck and just use my little drifter car as my DD. Its a 90 miata, runs amazing and is a BLAST to drive. __________________ 86 Ext. Cab Pickup 7 inches of lift/36 inch Wild Countrys Buick 3800 V6. Performance intake manifold,holley carb,Cam,headers,MSD ignition,dual exhaust

12-12-2007, 11:13 PM	#25 (permalink)
4runnerguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: canada, ontario Posts: 561	that is so stupid if they shutdown off road places its like shuting down a major highway. there was a couple of months but the government shutdown the trails here on ontariomississauga but most people still keped on goin until they opend it again cause they can keep givin us tickets

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