El Dorado forest Route Designation info flier

Cougarfreak · 05-22-2007, 11:35 AM

If you are camping or wheeling ANYWHERE in the ELDO National Forest (That includes the 'CON) PLEASE DISTRIBUTE TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. Trust me, it will be well worth the effort.

Thanks in advance for your support

Copy and paste into Word. You may have to format it a little to make it more presentable.

Flyer begins HERE:

Over 1000 miles of roads in this forest are being closed to vehicles!!

Most people are unaware of what is happening within the Eldorado National Forest.
Under the Route Designation Program the forest service is proposing to close over 1000 miles of mostly dirt roads to any motorized vehicle traffic, this includes street legal vehicles as well as motorcycles, and ATVs. If you have ever driven off of the pavement in this forest, most likely one of the roads you have been on is going to be closed. There are approximately 3200 miles of forest system roads, after the decision is signed there could be at best 2214 miles and possibly as low as 1376 miles, that is over 50% of roads in the forest that could be closed! This is something that is not way down the road, it is happening now. The decision will be released to the public in June, we then have only 45 days to make comments on it and our comment can make a difference. Changes have already been made due to input for groups, organizations and even individuals so everyone needs to voice there concerns.

So what can you do?

First, get as informed on what is happening as you can. Go to the Eldorado National Forest website and look at “Route Designation Project”

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/pro...te/index.shtml

if you look under PRELIMINARY ALTERNATIVES it will show you 5 alternatives, alternative A,B,C,D and E. keep in mind alternative A is not an option, so there are really only 4 choices.

Second, send an email to eldoradoroutes@fs.fed.us and ask to be put on their email list and they will advise you of upcoming phone meetings and town meetings that will have information on what is going on.

Third, when the EIS draft is released you MUST make comments on specific roads that you feel should remain open and why. There will only be a 45 day comment period, after that there is nothing you can do.

Forth, get as many people involved as you can, don’t sit back and let this happen without a fight.

Camping in this forest is suppose to be a fun and exciting time for everyone, but without the roads that get you to those campsites, or places you just like to ride, the fun will be gone. Let’s do something and keep the roads and trails open that have been here for decades.
If you have no interest in this information please pass it on to someone who may be.
Please do not litter.

Cougarfreak · 05-22-2007, 11:48 AM

Origin and updates here:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581821

Cougarfreak · 05-23-2007, 12:20 AM

Forest link fixed at top...

Cougarfreak · 07-15-2007, 09:30 PM

I know many of you just like to wheel, and rely on others to do the hard work of keeping your trails open for you.

THIS MUST CHANGE!!!! THE EL DORADO NAT'L FOREST IS UNDER FIRE!!!!! READ THE FOLLOWING AND DO SOMETHING, OR DONT COMPLAIN WHEN IT IS ALL GONE. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL!!!!!!

ALL who ride in the Eldorado National Forest – Extremely Urgent

PLEASE make sure you attend at least one of these meetings. It is of EXTREME importance because they will be held AFTER the Draft Environmental Impact Statement is released and DURING the 45 day public comment period.

Time is of the essence!!!! The 45 day period will begin on July 20th and END on September 4th, 2007

PLEASE pass the word on. Post on a your club/community BB’s and any place else you think will be effective.

If you are in a club, ask your entire club to attend at least one of these meetings. We need a VERY large presence at these last 5 meetings.

Please refer to the Land-Use section to become aware of the ways you can help in this FINAL step of the Route Designation Process in the Eldorado National Forest.

Thank you

The Eldorado National Forest website can be found here… http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/pro...te/index.shtml

7/24 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Placerville - Marshall Building El Dorado County Fairgrounds, 100 Placerville Drive, Placerville, CA 95667.

7/25 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Jackson - Civic Center, 33 Broadway, Jackson, CA 95642.

7/26 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Markleeville - Turtle Rock Community Center, 17300 State Route 89, Markleeville, CA 96120.

7/31 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Folsom - Lake Natomas Inn, 702 Gold Lake Drive, Folsom CA 95630. To be confirmed.

8/2 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Concord - Pleasant Hill Recreation Center 320 Civic Drive, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523.

Cougarfreak · 08-09-2007, 08:55 AM

A motorcycle friend of mine says the program is flawed for us (4x4 folk) because the time to have spoke up for desired trails was last year when they were drafting up the maps, not now that the maps are already made. He (Motorcycle friend) says he and several from his trail riding group attended several meetings last year to help create the maps and talk about their favorite riding spots and are only loosing 1 trail on this new map "Alt. D . I'd like to think we're organized enough to make a big impact, but this is a big ball to have been dropped . The fire we went to last month's meetings with SHOULD HAVE BEEN harnessed last year when our requests would have counted and they were designing the maps. Am I missing something here? It seems to me that we (Cal 4Wheel members, Blue Ribbon Coalition members, at least) should have received a heads up to this trail planning a year ago when we could have made a difference (not that we didn't in last few weeks). I caught wind of these meetings from the Pirate4x4 board. Kudos to all who attended the meetings over the last few months, but I think we as wheelers need to be able to rely on those who have their fingers in the political arena to keep us apprised of the goings on in our backyards... and get more involved in the political arenas ourselves. I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong, and I'd love to prove my motorcyclist friend wrong, but I get the feeling he's right. THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE SHOULD GIVE UP!!!!! Can somebody clarify for me, please?

05-22-2007, 11:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cougarfreak Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodland, CA Posts: 193	El Dorado forest Route Designation info flier If you are camping or wheeling ANYWHERE in the ELDO National Forest (That includes the 'CON) PLEASE DISTRIBUTE TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. Trust me, it will be well worth the effort. Thanks in advance for your support Copy and paste into Word. You may have to format it a little to make it more presentable. Flyer begins HERE: Over 1000 miles of roads in this forest are being closed to vehicles!! Most people are unaware of what is happening within the Eldorado National Forest. Under the Route Designation Program the forest service is proposing to close over 1000 miles of mostly dirt roads to any motorized vehicle traffic, this includes street legal vehicles as well as motorcycles, and ATVs. If you have ever driven off of the pavement in this forest, most likely one of the roads you have been on is going to be closed. There are approximately 3200 miles of forest system roads, after the decision is signed there could be at best 2214 miles and possibly as low as 1376 miles, that is over 50% of roads in the forest that could be closed! This is something that is not way down the road, it is happening now. The decision will be released to the public in June, we then have only 45 days to make comments on it and our comment can make a difference. Changes have already been made due to input for groups, organizations and even individuals so everyone needs to voice there concerns. So what can you do? First, get as informed on what is happening as you can. Go to the Eldorado National Forest website and look at “Route Designation Project” http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/pro...te/index.shtml if you look under PRELIMINARY ALTERNATIVES it will show you 5 alternatives, alternative A,B,C,D and E. keep in mind alternative A is not an option, so there are really only 4 choices. Second, send an email to eldoradoroutes@fs.fed.us and ask to be put on their email list and they will advise you of upcoming phone meetings and town meetings that will have information on what is going on. Third, when the EIS draft is released you MUST make comments on specific roads that you feel should remain open and why. There will only be a 45 day comment period, after that there is nothing you can do. Forth, get as many people involved as you can, don’t sit back and let this happen without a fight. Camping in this forest is suppose to be a fun and exciting time for everyone, but without the roads that get you to those campsites, or places you just like to ride, the fun will be gone. Let’s do something and keep the roads and trails open that have been here for decades. If you have no interest in this information please pass it on to someone who may be. Please do not litter. __________________ I don't care if you laugh at me or with me, just laugh!!! '97 4Runner, cstm Cougarfreak Exo n traction bar, Hi steer, SAS'ed w/ '81 Waggy D44 (superjoints, Chromos, and Chevy outters, n 4.56's) rear Ford D60 (35sp chromos, detroit n 4.56's), 35" BFG Muds, YJ rear springs military wrapped w/ waggy main in front, Chevy 63" springs rear, King air bumps, King 2.5" res. shocks, Marlin 2.28 dual, twin stick. Photo Gallery http://www.cougarfreakphoto.com/inde...owPage=4Runner Last edited by Cougarfreak : 05-23-2007 at 12:19 AM.

05-22-2007, 11:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cougarfreak Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodland, CA Posts: 193	Origin and updates here: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=581821 __________________ I don't care if you laugh at me or with me, just laugh!!! '97 4Runner, cstm Cougarfreak Exo n traction bar, Hi steer, SAS'ed w/ '81 Waggy D44 (superjoints, Chromos, and Chevy outters, n 4.56's) rear Ford D60 (35sp chromos, detroit n 4.56's), 35" BFG Muds, YJ rear springs military wrapped w/ waggy main in front, Chevy 63" springs rear, King air bumps, King 2.5" res. shocks, Marlin 2.28 dual, twin stick. Photo Gallery http://www.cougarfreakphoto.com/inde...owPage=4Runner

05-23-2007, 12:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cougarfreak Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodland, CA Posts: 193	Forest link fixed at top... __________________ I don't care if you laugh at me or with me, just laugh!!! '97 4Runner, cstm Cougarfreak Exo n traction bar, Hi steer, SAS'ed w/ '81 Waggy D44 (superjoints, Chromos, and Chevy outters, n 4.56's) rear Ford D60 (35sp chromos, detroit n 4.56's), 35" BFG Muds, YJ rear springs military wrapped w/ waggy main in front, Chevy 63" springs rear, King air bumps, King 2.5" res. shocks, Marlin 2.28 dual, twin stick. Photo Gallery http://www.cougarfreakphoto.com/inde...owPage=4Runner

07-15-2007, 09:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cougarfreak Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodland, CA Posts: 193	I know many of you just like to wheel, and rely on others to do the hard work of keeping your trails open for you. THIS MUST CHANGE!!!! THE EL DORADO NAT'L FOREST IS UNDER FIRE!!!!! READ THE FOLLOWING AND DO SOMETHING, OR DONT COMPLAIN WHEN IT IS ALL GONE. THIS IS THE REAL DEAL!!!!!! ALL who ride in the Eldorado National Forest – Extremely Urgent PLEASE make sure you attend at least one of these meetings. It is of EXTREME importance because they will be held AFTER the Draft Environmental Impact Statement is released and DURING the 45 day public comment period. Time is of the essence!!!! The 45 day period will begin on July 20th and END on September 4th, 2007 PLEASE pass the word on. Post on a your club/community BB’s and any place else you think will be effective. If you are in a club, ask your entire club to attend at least one of these meetings. We need a VERY large presence at these last 5 meetings. Please refer to the Land-Use section to become aware of the ways you can help in this FINAL step of the Route Designation Process in the Eldorado National Forest. Thank you The Eldorado National Forest website can be found here… http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/pro...te/index.shtml 7/24 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Placerville - Marshall Building El Dorado County Fairgrounds, 100 Placerville Drive, Placerville, CA 95667. 7/25 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Jackson - Civic Center, 33 Broadway, Jackson, CA 95642. 7/26 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Markleeville - Turtle Rock Community Center, 17300 State Route 89, Markleeville, CA 96120. 7/31 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Folsom - Lake Natomas Inn, 702 Gold Lake Drive, Folsom CA 95630. To be confirmed. 8/2 7:00 pm - 9:00 pm Public Meeting Draft EIS Release Concord - Pleasant Hill Recreation Center 320 Civic Drive, Pleasant Hill, CA 94523. __________________ I don't care if you laugh at me or with me, just laugh!!! '97 4Runner, cstm Cougarfreak Exo n traction bar, Hi steer, SAS'ed w/ '81 Waggy D44 (superjoints, Chromos, and Chevy outters, n 4.56's) rear Ford D60 (35sp chromos, detroit n 4.56's), 35" BFG Muds, YJ rear springs military wrapped w/ waggy main in front, Chevy 63" springs rear, King air bumps, King 2.5" res. shocks, Marlin 2.28 dual, twin stick. Photo Gallery http://www.cougarfreakphoto.com/inde...owPage=4Runner Last edited by Cougarfreak : 07-17-2007 at 02:52 PM.

08-09-2007, 08:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
Cougarfreak Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodland, CA Posts: 193	A motorcycle friend of mine says the program is flawed for us (4x4 folk) because the time to have spoke up for desired trails was last year when they were drafting up the maps, not now that the maps are already made. He (Motorcycle friend) says he and several from his trail riding group attended several meetings last year to help create the maps and talk about their favorite riding spots and are only loosing 1 trail on this new map "Alt. D . I'd like to think we're organized enough to make a big impact, but this is a big ball to have been dropped . The fire we went to last month's meetings with SHOULD HAVE BEEN harnessed last year when our requests would have counted and they were designing the maps. Am I missing something here? It seems to me that we (Cal 4Wheel members, Blue Ribbon Coalition members, at least) should have received a heads up to this trail planning a year ago when we could have made a difference (not that we didn't in last few weeks). I caught wind of these meetings from the Pirate4x4 board. Kudos to all who attended the meetings over the last few months, but I think we as wheelers need to be able to rely on those who have their fingers in the political arena to keep us apprised of the goings on in our backyards... and get more involved in the political arenas ourselves. I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong, and I'd love to prove my motorcyclist friend wrong, but I get the feeling he's right. THAT'S NOT TO SAY WE SHOULD GIVE UP!!!!! Can somebody clarify for me, please? __________________ I don't care if you laugh at me or with me, just laugh!!! '97 4Runner, cstm Cougarfreak Exo n traction bar, Hi steer, SAS'ed w/ '81 Waggy D44 (superjoints, Chromos, and Chevy outters, n 4.56's) rear Ford D60 (35sp chromos, detroit n 4.56's), 35" BFG Muds, YJ rear springs military wrapped w/ waggy main in front, Chevy 63" springs rear, King air bumps, King 2.5" res. shocks, Marlin 2.28 dual, twin stick. Photo Gallery http://www.cougarfreakphoto.com/inde...owPage=4Runner

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