how do i replace bearings on axles with ABS ?

nikh713 · 08-10-2009, 11:03 PM

i just bought a haynes manual and it looks simple enough but it has nothing in there about my ABS axles. with the ABS rings on my axles is there anything different i need to do to these? do the abs rings come off? it does not look like the wheel bearing will slide over the abs ring. any helps is greatly appreciated i need to get my t100 back on the road asap.

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vital22re · 08-10-2009, 11:13 PM

i believe they get cut off and you'll need new ones pressed on.

desertcamper67 · 08-11-2009, 02:32 PM

They can be pressed off and reused. Just don't hurt them.

nikh713 · 08-11-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by desertcamper67

They can be pressed off and reused. Just don't hurt them.

do i need them in there as some type of spacer? or can i leave them off? my ABS is disconnected because the wheel sensors are all shot.

desertcamper67 · 08-11-2009, 06:25 PM

No, leave them off.

nikh713 · 08-13-2009, 06:40 PM

the speed sensor ring on the axle has a retainer of some sourt on the inner side toward the diff. and it's what seals the inner oil seal. If i cut off the speed ring will the retainer ring be loose? the axle is really small inside the oil seal and does not seal it.

I went to my local NAPA machine shop and they said they dont do toyota axles because of the weak backing plates theres no way they can press them with out being destroyed.
Then i brought it to a garage who said he was gonna bang it on the ground to pop them out but i think he'd run into the same problem i am and would like to charge me for 100 hrs of labor... or destroy my axles in a press
would the dealer do this if i brought the axles to them? with my parts?

i took some pics just to show you what im talking about the axles housing is huge and the oil seal sits in farther than a regular axle. so i need to keep the speed sensor retainer to seal the oil seal.

With out and then with the oil seal placed in it.

desertcamper67 · 08-13-2009, 10:26 PM

I'm not sure if I understand your question or if I can answer it but this is what I think.
I have done the slam the axle end on a hard but giving surface to get the bearings off before and it worked fine. I THINK that that retaining ring just marks the location where you would stop pressing the tone ring onto the axle. Maybe insurance that it doesn't work its way onto the smaller part of the shaft and spin loosely?
Anyways I don't believe you need that reatining ring if you don't put the tone ring back on.
Someone else should chime in that has your model truck and did it before. I'd like to hear their answer too. I'm not sure without actually being there seeing it up close.

nikh713 · 08-14-2009, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desertcamper67

I'm not sure if I understand your question or if I can answer it but this is what I think.
I have done the slam the axle end on a hard but giving surface to get the bearings off before and it worked fine. I THINK that that retaining ring just marks the location where you would stop pressing the tone ring onto the axle. Maybe insurance that it doesn't work its way onto the smaller part of the shaft and spin loosely?
Anyways I don't believe you need that reatining ring if you don't put the tone ring back on.
Someone else should chime in that has your model truck and did it before. I'd like to hear their answer too. I'm not sure without actually being there seeing it up close.

I guess my question is: If i cut off the speed sensor ring and its retainer do i need to at least put the retainer back on and will it be loose?. its on the inner side of the axle and i believe its what seals the inner oil seal. when i put the oil seal on the axle shaft its got a huge gap inbetween the actual axle and the inner side of the seal. but when i slide it on the speed sensors retainer it seals perfectly. and i think i see wear on the retainer from where the oil seal spins around it.
I think that if i leave both off oil will be touching the bearing and might seap into the drum? i'm not exactly sure how it works exactly. this is my 1st time doing a rear bearing.
With non ABS axles when you slide the axle into the housing is the oil seal tight around the axle or does it seat on the bearings retainer? thanks for reading all this. it just sucks theres no write ups about replacing bearings with ABS axles to read haha thanks for you help man.

08-10-2009, 11:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
vital22re Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: kirkland washington Posts: 683	i believe they get cut off and you'll need new ones pressed on. __________________ 92 toyota truck 3.4 5spd 4.56 gears magna flow cat and muffler2 1/4 piping isr mod to intake 1.5 bjsfront add a leafs and 2inch lift shackles rear rancho shocks all around sitting on 265/75/r16 nitto terra grapplers

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08-13-2009, 06:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
nikh713 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 25	the speed sensor ring on the axle has a retainer of some sourt on the inner side toward the diff. and it's what seals the inner oil seal. If i cut off the speed ring will the retainer ring be loose? the axle is really small inside the oil seal and does not seal it. I went to my local NAPA machine shop and they said they dont do toyota axles because of the weak backing plates theres no way they can press them with out being destroyed. Then i brought it to a garage who said he was gonna bang it on the ground to pop them out but i think he'd run into the same problem i am and would like to charge me for 100 hrs of labor... or destroy my axles in a press would the dealer do this if i brought the axles to them? with my parts? i took some pics just to show you what im talking about the axles housing is huge and the oil seal sits in farther than a regular axle. so i need to keep the speed sensor retainer to seal the oil seal. With out and then with the oil seal placed in it.