96 T100 SAS- the Mutant Turtle build
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96 T100 SAS- the Mutant Turtle build
so this is going to be a REALLY slow build because of work and the holidays and 3 kids but i figured i would start posting pictures of the starting point and the parts as they roll in.
so this whole adventure started last January when i was cruising craigs list for toyota parts as always and i found this guy selling a t100 for parts-$500. so i called him up because he was local and he starts to tell me the rear end is blown and they quoted 3200 to fix it so he is selling it for parts. I ask if i need to bring wheels or a come-a-long with me to get it on the trailer if i come look at it and he says no, you can drive it right on in 4wd. he said at the time it had been only out of registration about 3 weeks!
so i show up to a pretty beat t100 with 366K on the clock but she fires right up and goes though the gears and drives around his yard in 4low just fine. so i give him $460 bucks and start to load up:
so it also had some excessive moisture from the tailpipe and i know these are prone to head cracks so i decided to let a friend of mine tear into it and see.
regardless i think it was a pretty good deal. I have always wanted a t100 and i have always loved the 3.4 and 5 speed combo so with some polish it should be a nice little stock driver......
That is if i could ever leave well enough alone.
so this whole adventure started last January when i was cruising craigs list for toyota parts as always and i found this guy selling a t100 for parts-$500. so i called him up because he was local and he starts to tell me the rear end is blown and they quoted 3200 to fix it so he is selling it for parts. I ask if i need to bring wheels or a come-a-long with me to get it on the trailer if i come look at it and he says no, you can drive it right on in 4wd. he said at the time it had been only out of registration about 3 weeks!
so i show up to a pretty beat t100 with 366K on the clock but she fires right up and goes though the gears and drives around his yard in 4low just fine. so i give him $460 bucks and start to load up:
so it also had some excessive moisture from the tailpipe and i know these are prone to head cracks so i decided to let a friend of mine tear into it and see.
regardless i think it was a pretty good deal. I have always wanted a t100 and i have always loved the 3.4 and 5 speed combo so with some polish it should be a nice little stock driver......
That is if i could ever leave well enough alone.
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so i got tired of only having two seats in my 1st gen crawler and decided it was time for a change. i origionally bought a 99 4runner to build but i have always been a truck guy so when this t100 came around i got to thinking.
i took a big step this Halloween and let the 83 go to a nice home in reno for 3K:
this left me with a budget to start collecting parts.
i am also a hoarder so i already have a FJ60 front axle with custom bobby long inner shafts and some machined spacers and IFS hubs to get it to 67.5" WMS to WMS, a full float FZJ80 rear, 5.29's for both axles, a Detroit and spartan locker for the axles, and install kits, a set of 23 spline dual cases, some 14" travel 5150's, 350 dollars in marlin gift cards and some old air bumps that need to be rebuilt.
next big step was tires.
picked these up last weekend for 1100. 37x12.5-R17 yokohama geolandar m/t's and some steel 17x9's with the toy bolt pattern, still need to measure backspace but i can work with that.
i took a big step this Halloween and let the 83 go to a nice home in reno for 3K:
this left me with a budget to start collecting parts.
i am also a hoarder so i already have a FJ60 front axle with custom bobby long inner shafts and some machined spacers and IFS hubs to get it to 67.5" WMS to WMS, a full float FZJ80 rear, 5.29's for both axles, a Detroit and spartan locker for the axles, and install kits, a set of 23 spline dual cases, some 14" travel 5150's, 350 dollars in marlin gift cards and some old air bumps that need to be rebuilt.
next big step was tires.
picked these up last weekend for 1100. 37x12.5-R17 yokohama geolandar m/t's and some steel 17x9's with the toy bolt pattern, still need to measure backspace but i can work with that.
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as for the name, the first toyota i ever built was a 84 extracab that was painted with green rustolium with a roller and when i wheeled in AK most guys had big blocks and boggers but the toyota always hung in there so they had nicknamed it the Turtle, figured since this is green and just bigger it could be the mutant turtle.
here is the link to that build thread:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...ick-v-6-a.html
sorry it is old so some pics have been moved.
here is the link to that build thread:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...ick-v-6-a.html
sorry it is old so some pics have been moved.
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luckily the compression was still good before pulling the heads so i think the bottom end is still good so we are going to install the new head and do some little maintenance items and button her back up.
now i have to build the widened front axle and setup the 3rds. Find a longer passenger side rear axle for the full float FZJ80 axle to make it 67.5" instead of the stock 63.5", from my reading the short side rear axle is 29" from end to mounting face so if i have one made at 33" and widen the housing 4" on that side i should be right around 67.5"
next i have to figure out suspension. i think i am going to run the 14" shocks i ave and some f150's or 63's for the rea and get some FOA coilovers for the front and build a homebrew 3 link.
hopefully i can find some deals on nthe parts i am still lacking on black friday/ cyber monday.
now i have to build the widened front axle and setup the 3rds. Find a longer passenger side rear axle for the full float FZJ80 axle to make it 67.5" instead of the stock 63.5", from my reading the short side rear axle is 29" from end to mounting face so if i have one made at 33" and widen the housing 4" on that side i should be right around 67.5"
next i have to figure out suspension. i think i am going to run the 14" shocks i ave and some f150's or 63's for the rea and get some FOA coilovers for the front and build a homebrew 3 link.
hopefully i can find some deals on nthe parts i am still lacking on black friday/ cyber monday.
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well i used black friday discount to order up my coilovers today!!! :clap: :clap:
went with 2.0-14" FOA remote resi shocks with med/firm compression and light med rebound. most reccomended med comp and light reb but i figure i would like to try a slightly stiffer shock and lighter tender spring to be able to have a plush ride while still limiting some body roll.
I also went with 250/400 springs to assuming a 1085 sprung corner weight, mounting the coilover right over the axle and only leaned in 10º 250/400 gave me a initial spring rate of 154lb/in and initial suspension frequency of 1.160. also a stepup ratio of 260% to hopefully avoid hard bottoming. I was shootiung for 50 % droop, but we will see if i can really get that type of up travel. might need to go softer on the initial and add droop once i get to start fabbing.
luckily daves offroad has a spring exchage program so i can play with them before driving it too much and see if i need to swap.
shocks, springs, limit straps, and air bump cans came out to only 637 bucks!
now need to buy v6 adapter, rear axle shaft to center the fj80 housing and my triple shifters.
might wait on the triple stick as that is the only slush i have in the budget right now incase i need to fix something else i didnt account for. I do have bucketsw i can install instead of the bench, just dont want to.
went with 2.0-14" FOA remote resi shocks with med/firm compression and light med rebound. most reccomended med comp and light reb but i figure i would like to try a slightly stiffer shock and lighter tender spring to be able to have a plush ride while still limiting some body roll.
I also went with 250/400 springs to assuming a 1085 sprung corner weight, mounting the coilover right over the axle and only leaned in 10º 250/400 gave me a initial spring rate of 154lb/in and initial suspension frequency of 1.160. also a stepup ratio of 260% to hopefully avoid hard bottoming. I was shootiung for 50 % droop, but we will see if i can really get that type of up travel. might need to go softer on the initial and add droop once i get to start fabbing.
luckily daves offroad has a spring exchage program so i can play with them before driving it too much and see if i need to swap.
shocks, springs, limit straps, and air bump cans came out to only 637 bucks!
now need to buy v6 adapter, rear axle shaft to center the fj80 housing and my triple shifters.
might wait on the triple stick as that is the only slush i have in the budget right now incase i need to fix something else i didnt account for. I do have bucketsw i can install instead of the bench, just dont want to.
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I finally got some time to work on the axles for this thing this last weekend. I started working on a bucket for my tractor but soon got bored and found my self stripping my front axle to widen it. from 12AM to 6:30AM i went from full axle to fully ground down and knuckle balls off.
here she is post plasma with one knuckle off
here is the rear awaiting it's turn
here is the bucket i got bored grinding off the cutting edge
cleaned off welding table to hold the inner axle parts
ready to cut off knuckle balls
balls cut off
here is the machined spacer from LCwizard to make the custom inner shafts work. I believe they are designed to make the axle 2-5/8" wider per side. I will have to measure after i get it all back together with the shafts in to see. I also plan on adding IFS hubs for the extra 1.5" per side and doing the FROR tacoma brake kit.
so weird thing is the passenger side has this sheet metal oil dam in it and the other side did not. anyone know if this is a nessecary part or what it is called? I kinda beat the one i have left while removing the knuckle balls. makes me also wonder what happened to the other one?
here she is post plasma with one knuckle off
here is the rear awaiting it's turn
here is the bucket i got bored grinding off the cutting edge
cleaned off welding table to hold the inner axle parts
ready to cut off knuckle balls
balls cut off
here is the machined spacer from LCwizard to make the custom inner shafts work. I believe they are designed to make the axle 2-5/8" wider per side. I will have to measure after i get it all back together with the shafts in to see. I also plan on adding IFS hubs for the extra 1.5" per side and doing the FROR tacoma brake kit.
so weird thing is the passenger side has this sheet metal oil dam in it and the other side did not. anyone know if this is a nessecary part or what it is called? I kinda beat the one i have left while removing the knuckle balls. makes me also wonder what happened to the other one?
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Can't help you on that oil dam, but I am looking forward to seeing this project progress.
Thanks for replying to my post about doing the SAS, I decided to stick with the Dana 44 in my T100 for now.. but down the road sometime I'd love to set her up with some built FJ axles. Didn't realize the older cruisers had 9.5 ring gear up front, gotta be way stronger than the fj80 8" front diff.. seems like the only advantage of the 80 is the bigger birfs/axles and maybe brakes?
Would it be possible to just get another stock long-side axle for the rear to center it, or would that make it too wide?
Mutant turtle is gonna be the baddest T around! Good eye on that cracked head too.. been into a few 3.4's and never seen that before.
Thanks for replying to my post about doing the SAS, I decided to stick with the Dana 44 in my T100 for now.. but down the road sometime I'd love to set her up with some built FJ axles. Didn't realize the older cruisers had 9.5 ring gear up front, gotta be way stronger than the fj80 8" front diff.. seems like the only advantage of the 80 is the bigger birfs/axles and maybe brakes?
Would it be possible to just get another stock long-side axle for the rear to center it, or would that make it too wide?
Mutant turtle is gonna be the baddest T around! Good eye on that cracked head too.. been into a few 3.4's and never seen that before.
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Can't help you on that oil dam, but I am looking forward to seeing this project progress.
Thanks for replying to my post about doing the SAS, I decided to stick with the Dana 44 in my T100 for now.. but down the road sometime I'd love to set her up with some built FJ axles. Didn't realize the older cruisers had 9.5 ring gear up front, gotta be way stronger than the fj80 8" front diff.. seems like the only advantage of the 80 is the bigger birfs/axles and maybe brakes?
Would it be possible to just get another stock long-side axle for the rear to center it, or would that make it too wide?
Mutant turtle is gonna be the baddest T around! Good eye on that cracked head too.. been into a few 3.4's and never seen that before.
Thanks for replying to my post about doing the SAS, I decided to stick with the Dana 44 in my T100 for now.. but down the road sometime I'd love to set her up with some built FJ axles. Didn't realize the older cruisers had 9.5 ring gear up front, gotta be way stronger than the fj80 8" front diff.. seems like the only advantage of the 80 is the bigger birfs/axles and maybe brakes?
Would it be possible to just get another stock long-side axle for the rear to center it, or would that make it too wide?
Mutant turtle is gonna be the baddest T around! Good eye on that cracked head too.. been into a few 3.4's and never seen that before.
I picked these axles up 6 years ago and have been collecting parts for them ever since. That being said, I am building these axle out of my person desire to tinker and do something not normal, also part of the desire to build the t100 the way i am planning. I have not seen any 3 linked front t100's yet through all my searches on the internet. that being said is this the most cost effective or best choice? probably not. for what i have spent on gears axles birfs lockers and the fab work involved i could have probably found a built dana60 and just dropped it in, but i wanted to do something different.
as for the rear i think if you used two full longside shafts the axle would have came out to around 71-72" IIRC which is just a little wider than i wanted to go and the junkyards i had found long side axles wanted 100 a piece where as the cromo nitro was only 225 and is long splined to be cut to fit. not really much more cost to get what i want. here is the link: http://www.justdifferentials.com/AXT.../axtff30-l.htm
maybe for my birthday in may the wife can buy me another one so i can replace the stock long side with a cromo too.
I actually tried to buy a t100 as my first truck out of highschool but could not cover the insurance and payment so i decided not to but have always loved them. that is part of the reason i jumped on this one and sold the 4runner i was going to build. I just hope the extra cab does not prove to small or cumbersome with my girls.
I am hopefully going to get some time next weekend to dig into the rear axle and get her cut apart. I am borrowing a alignment jig from a friend that has built a similar axle (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/toyot...rear-axle.html) so hopefully i can atleast get the axles built before next year. I am still hopefull after getting the axles built and the tcases setup the rest of the build i can throw some build parties and get things knocked out quicker.
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not a whole lot of progress because i only had about 2 hours to work on it but i got the bevel ground on the housing and the knuckles so i could put the extensions in and the knuckles back on to see what the overall width is really looking like.
so from CL of trunion axis to the other CL of trunion axis on the housing i measured approximately 54-1/4", and the strait axle knuckle and hub assemble measured roughly 5" from trunion axis to WMS. that would put me around 64-1/4". I have IFS hubs to swap on that should put me at 67-1/4" or a little more if i dive into the tacoma brake swap from FROR or similar.
looks like this axle width should be right about perfect for the T100.
just need to get it all built. my plan is to cut off the diff cover and re install the 3rd and dry fit the knuckles, IFS hubs and axle shafts i have and make sure my measurements are correct then start cutting the rear apart to widen the FJ80 rear to match. I still need to machine the spacer for that and cut the cut to length shaft from nitro.
after i get both those figured i am going to borrow an alignment jig from a friend and get the whole assembly dialed and caster set to where i think it will be and weld everything but the knuckle so i can fine tune later for the front. Rear i will probably just leave the spring perches off for now.
so from CL of trunion axis to the other CL of trunion axis on the housing i measured approximately 54-1/4", and the strait axle knuckle and hub assemble measured roughly 5" from trunion axis to WMS. that would put me around 64-1/4". I have IFS hubs to swap on that should put me at 67-1/4" or a little more if i dive into the tacoma brake swap from FROR or similar.
looks like this axle width should be right about perfect for the T100.
just need to get it all built. my plan is to cut off the diff cover and re install the 3rd and dry fit the knuckles, IFS hubs and axle shafts i have and make sure my measurements are correct then start cutting the rear apart to widen the FJ80 rear to match. I still need to machine the spacer for that and cut the cut to length shaft from nitro.
after i get both those figured i am going to borrow an alignment jig from a friend and get the whole assembly dialed and caster set to where i think it will be and weld everything but the knuckle so i can fine tune later for the front. Rear i will probably just leave the spring perches off for now.
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not a whole lot of progress but i did finally get the t100 smoged and registered last week so she is legal for the street. this is a big milestone for me as i havent wanted to cut anything on the truck until everything is ready and i know there wont be any title issues.
so this sunday night from midnight to 4am i tore into the rear axle to get her stripped down. still alot of grinding left to do but I got the short side spindle off so i can start building the widening spacer. I am planning on taking the 63" wide stock axle to 67.5" just about stock. this means i have to build a 4.5" spacer on the short side. the short side axle shaft measured 28-15/16" so with my nitro cut to length shaft i need to cut around 33-7/16". here are some pictures:
so this sunday night from midnight to 4am i tore into the rear axle to get her stripped down. still alot of grinding left to do but I got the short side spindle off so i can start building the widening spacer. I am planning on taking the 63" wide stock axle to 67.5" just about stock. this means i have to build a 4.5" spacer on the short side. the short side axle shaft measured 28-15/16" so with my nitro cut to length shaft i need to cut around 33-7/16". here are some pictures:
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thanks man. i am working on it when i can but with work and kids it seems i only get to work on it when everyone else is sleeping....lol luckily my garage is far enough removed from the bedrooms i dont wake anyone up.
I am hoping to get to grinding the housing tonight if i have energy after work and then i need to find the material for the spacer. i might even get the rear done and throw it in at stock height to be able to keep driving the T on the road as my rear diff is a 3.47 and about to blow. makes me want a supercharger trying to push 31's with the 3.47.
I am hoping to get to grinding the housing tonight if i have energy after work and then i need to find the material for the spacer. i might even get the rear done and throw it in at stock height to be able to keep driving the T on the road as my rear diff is a 3.47 and about to blow. makes me want a supercharger trying to push 31's with the 3.47.
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Weird, most T's ive come across had 4.10s, 4.30s, or 4.70s (came on the 93-94 t100s to make up for the ˟˟˟˟ty lack of power 3.slows). The supercharger is a very nice upgrade and i would recomend it to anyone with a 3.4
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oh mine came with 4.10's. the stock 4.10 was blown when i bought it and i only had a 3.47 laying around so i was just driving it that way (in 2wd only) until this weekend i found a cheap 4.10 3rd to put her back to stock.
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no real progress to report but i just wanted to document i went to the dump today and the truck empty with just me and a 1/2 tank of fuel weighed 4326. will be interesting to see the weight once i am done.
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Got a little more work done monday night.
cut the diff cover off and assembled the knuckles and spindles to check the shafts spline engagement. i have to move the long side out about a 1/4". i also mocked up a quick tie rod to keep the knuckles strait. not the final configuration i dont think but makes it look more complete. I am going to throw the IFS hubs on after moving the long side out some to get a overall width measurement.
finally unwrapped these bad boys that have been sitting in my tool box for about 4 years,
also picked up these 31's so i could put some miles on the t100 while i keep building the axles:
cut the diff cover off and assembled the knuckles and spindles to check the shafts spline engagement. i have to move the long side out about a 1/4". i also mocked up a quick tie rod to keep the knuckles strait. not the final configuration i dont think but makes it look more complete. I am going to throw the IFS hubs on after moving the long side out some to get a overall width measurement.
finally unwrapped these bad boys that have been sitting in my tool box for about 4 years,
also picked up these 31's so i could put some miles on the t100 while i keep building the axles: