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Side exit exhaust in a 1st gen 4runner
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1989 4Runner -late '90s SR5 alloys -Kenwood CD deck with Hifonics and Polk Audio speakers -Kenwood TR-7950 HAM radio (needs work) with Midland 2m antenna -KC daylighter knock-offs on chrome bull bar Last edited by Zelephant; 10-05-2009 at 06:33 PM. |
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if your going to wheel it in the rocks and or plan on getting sliders i WOULD NOT do side exhaust... thats just asking to to be crushed...
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exactly..get some wire of the same gauge and such..
cut urs up..splice it with the new wires..problem solved i wanted to do the side exit exhaust on my '86 pickup..but i tried a BUNCH of different ways..and i couldnt get it to set up close enough to the body..because the frame at that point sits significantly lower than the body..and overall i think it wont look good.. there was a guy on here that cut a 4in hole in the side of his 3rd gen pickup and ran his exhaust out of it..and it looked fricken BADDARSE!!!!
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FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009 |
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I solved that problem the easy way...cut the cat off (and scrapped it for $110)
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holy shat...hopefully i can scrap the cat on my 4runner for that much..
o yea..I GOT 2..lol one on the runner and one in the garage that i found..lmao
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FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009 |
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Haha that was last summer, economy's really taken a crap since then.
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Thanks for the replies! First of all, I'm not going to be doing any wheeling, my truck is a daily driver and I don't want to kill it on the trails.
If it's as simple as splicing in more wire, then, heck yeah, I'll do it! Can I use regular braided wire, or do I need some sort of coaxial cable? I don't mind that the pipe will exit a few inches below the body, I just really want side exhaust !Taking out the cat isn't an option; I live in CT- the smog police are pretty strict here .I just want to double-check- The reducer has an inside diameter of 1.75", so it's slightly wider on the outside. Will the 1.75" u-bolt still work?
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Any wire with a single pair will work fine.
I have a side exit exhaust with a summit racing muffler and some high-flo cat, it comes out right at the rear shackle and works nice. It is a lot noisier, especially with the summit muffler (it's speced after the flowmaster 40-series, but costs a lot less) I ran 2.5" exhaust so I couldn't tell you about any u-bolts. The one pig problem I ran into was support in the rear. Right now it's just supported around the large bracket for the t-case. Let us know if you come up with anything creative for that!
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I moved my cat nearly a foot back with my new exhaust... didn't have to modify the wire wht so ever... just unbolted the clips that held it to the body, and made new ones. you sure yours isn't like this either?
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Traditionaly exhaust is attached to the body with rubber hangers... I would try and keep it as much like that as possible and not incorporate the frame. Just my .02.
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True... but you can always have more brackets fabbed up... rather easy to do... just 90 degree of a piece of steel and a hanger. I had one made at the exhaust shop I was at, holds up really well. but yeah, definitely I would keep the exhaust in "stock form" nothing wrong with it coming out behind the rear wheel. You COULD always cut it off underneath the truck with a down pipe. buddy of mine does that on his 22re. probably admits the same result as a side exit.
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1992 Toyota 4runner SR5 4x4 3.0 V6 5 Speed - Completely stock with 136k Miles. Modifications: Exhaust: Doug thorley headers, magnaflow hi flow cat, borla turbo muffler, 2.25 piping with a 3" tip Stereo: Pioneer Premier Deck, 2 12" Subwoofers, Brand new speakers all around, 1 450w 4 channel amp, 1 1000w 2 channel amp. CB Radio: Cobra 19 DX IV 40-Channel Compact CB Radio |
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It wouldn't be much harder to weld a bracket to the body instead of the frame, and probably a better idea. BTW, I don't want to run it behind the tire because the pipe past the muffler has rusted pretty bad and I don't want to fab it. I could just dump it, but I kinda want a tip you can see. Thanks for everyone's help so far, I appreciate it .
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A friend of mine ran his exhaust with a holesaw right behind his front wheel.. It was a 1st gen diesel Runner and it was loud as all hell!
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im the one with a flowmaster 40 and thats it, i have it dropped down right before the rear axle and it sounds good to me i guess. i wouldnt mess with moving the cat and o2 sensors... that can become a problem later on down the road. and from what i know on 22res there is an o2 behind and in front of the cat. at least thats what is on mine.
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Though, I didn't take pictures of where my o2 was located before and after, because I didn't think it would matter... heh these are of course afters, but in reality the o2 is supposed to sit back 6-8 inches. when I put the headers on, I could not finish putting the cross over on because the stock cat was in the way. so i had to modify it and push the o2 and cat further to the back of the truck. my muffler is maybe 2 inches from the axle... which is where the tail pipe bends vertically.![]() ![]() ![]() Moving your cat or o2 sensor shouldn't yeild any problems... it didn't for me, other than the fact that I put a high flow cat on and my CEL came on for a few days, but it mysteriously went off, and hasn't come on since. installing my exhaust system did make my idle out of whack for a few, but I just reset the ECU and it went back to normal. EDIT: I found a before. this was my hacked up cat back but if you can compare the before and after, you can see my exhaust is pushed back quite a bit from stock. ![]() (thats me in the background ) little side note there lol
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Nice exhaust set up! Thanks for the pics! If I'm looking at this right, you moved the O2 sensor further toward the rear, right? In my case, I would be taking out 8" from the pipe in front of the frame crossmember, causing the O2 and everything else to move forward, and the O2 wire doesn't reach that far forward. Also, is it just me, or does your O2 wire enter the body near the middle? Mine enters right under the doorframe. But then again, mines a 22RE, and I see yours is a 3.0, so I'd expect some differences.
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Yep. I moved mine back further. its lined up right next to the gas tank, as you can see in the picture. I would expect the o2 sensor to be easier to figure out if your moving it toward the front? search under your truck more... there should be clips and what not holding up the o2 sensor wire.
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my $0.02, fyi, if you have shiny aluminum wheels on your daily driver the side exit exhaust in front of your wheel can mess up your wheels finish. It will dull the finish so that you have to constantly polish it off. I did this with a truck of mine back in the day and i'll never re-route my exhaust to drop in front of my wheels again. If you have steel wheels or maybe even chrome then you need not worry.
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just stick to the stock exit... theres nothing wrong with it. I, honestly think it sounds the best there... nice tone to it.
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anybody get rid of their 3vz crossover...or well not get rid of it..but re-route it..
the 3vz headgasket problem is supposedly caused by the crossover being so close to the #6 cylinder..(and it being so thin at that point). well instead of going over the tranny..why not go under it??? i have a 4in lift..and dont do anything where something would damage it..anybody else got any ideas??
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check my 3vze exhaust thread.... my crossover goes under the tranny just as you were talking about.
http://www.yotatech.com/f116/3vze-co...xhaust-192629/
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I took some lousy pics (it was raining) to try and illustrate my problem with the O2 sensor:
![]() ![]() The wire for the O2 runs at a 90-degree angle to the pipe, and enters the body under the doorframe, and there's not enough slack in the wire to move the O2 8" forward. So, unless someone has a better idea, I'll need to splice in more wire. My truck does have aluminums rims, but they're not shiny and not super clean, so I'm not worried to much about them getting dirty. I realize the rear exit is probably more practical, but, call me weird (which I am), I just really want side exhaust! Aside from that, I don't really want to pay for all the bends to snake the pipe over the rear axle, but mainly, I just want it out the side.
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yeup.... looks like you're gonna need some more wire. but hey... got for it. i'll take a picture of my o2 in the morning and show you what mine is like. to get all my piping done it was 200 dollars... and he welded the cross over pipes together, weld the cat, and muffler in and weld up new brackets/flanges, new gaskets, and all the piping to the back.. i'd say it was a good deal
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