SeaFoam'd it. Not much difference. i do it wrong?

tj884Rdlx · 10-30-2009, 12:23 PM

i've always felt the truck was a little sluggish, but i'm running 33's with a 22re and 4.11s, so i know it's slow. but the acceleration is also not consistent.

at about 3400 rpm, the acceleration increases like i have a secret mini-turbo somewhere. i figured a SeaFoam treatment might help with the lower end.

i figured that going as far to the front of the intake as possible would clean more of it. so i pulled the hose from the a/c idle up, plugged that, and then stuck the hose into the can.

you can see the hose i used in this pic. it elbows to the intake from the driver's side of it, and attaches IMMEDIATELY BEHIND the clamp for the big black intake elbow, on the top.

it sucked in half a can as i held about 2k rpm, then i shut it down for about 5 mins. i rehooked all, and started it up. had to WOT to get it to turn over.

it smoked, but not a thick white cloud. it cleared in about 5 mins.

i don't notice any performance improvement. would doing it again through the brake booster be worth it, or is it just not that dirty in there?

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fastrob691 · 10-30-2009, 12:29 PM

When i did sea foam through the intake on my 92 my neighbors called the fire department, dead serious, had to explain to them that i knew what i was doing and the 100ft cloud was supposed to look like that. They took my empty can for the report, so they could highlight the instructions. Maybe yours is really clean, mine was not. I ran it through a strong vaccuum source, i believe off the cruise junction/solenoid.

yoterr · 10-30-2009, 06:06 PM

theres a sea foam thread on here somewhere, but ur supposed to kill it with the seam foam and pour like an 1/8 of it in there after it dies, now this is extremely hard with an EFI motor but they sell sea foam deep creep i think its the same stuff just n a spray can so u can spray it threw the throttle body

Adam F · 10-30-2009, 09:24 PM

Keep in mind, seafoam is not a miracle in a bottle. Sounds like you have other problems, seafoam will not fix it.

Could be clogged fuel injectors. When did you change your fuel filter last? If its been a long time, change it, cut it in half, and look for crud. If its clogged, then so are your fuel injectors.

Try running some ATF in your gas tank. Let the tank get to close to empty, and dump a quart of ATF in. Run it for a while, and see if it helps.

tmcorbin · 10-31-2009, 04:08 AM

adam f do you mean let the tank get close to empty put a quart of atf in and run it like that, or fill up the tank again after you put in the atf?

I sea foamed mine last week, used the brake booster hose, runs really crappy when you pull that hose off, but once I started pooring in the sea foam it will smooth out. put in about a 1/2 can then shut it off for 5 min. Found an exhaust leak aroung the exhaust man to down pipe connection. When I started it up it filled the block up with smoke. Ran it for about an hour and it still smoked. finally stopped smoking just the other day. But the power increase was unbelievable. Put the rest of the can in the oil. I will change it out tomorrow. I was hoping it would help out my valve seals, but has not changed the oil consumption any.

92 TOY · 10-31-2009, 04:25 AM

Slightly off topic but still on the subject of SEAFOAM.

Can I use it and a old toothbrush and scotchbrite pads to clean myvalves and piston tops while I have my engine mostly disassembled.

I was told to use brake cleaner, which I haven't gotten yet, but I do have seafoam.

Back on topic...would there be any downside to doing the treatment a 2nd time for the question in the original post? Or is there a better place to use to suck in the seafoam? I have not done that ever.

desertcamper67 · 10-31-2009, 02:18 PM

I used it and was not impressed. Later I took off my intake and physically scraped off a bunch of buildup. It took years to build up so a bottle of chemicals isn't going to put much of a dent in it. At best, I think it may have softened up the caked on stuff.

AzStorm · 11-01-2009, 01:29 PM

http://www.yotatech.com/f105/sea-foa...-truth-160613/

phildelfino · 11-01-2009, 02:27 PM

I use the brake booster hose. One treatment should be 1/3 can in gas tank, 1/3 can in vacuum hose (then shut it off for 25 - 30 minutes to let it soak in) and 1/3 can in oil. I use it in the oil 2-500 miles before oil change. Don't know how much good it does this 230,000 mile V6 in my 88. But I feel it doesn't hurt any, so I will continue.

Cal01 · 11-02-2009, 11:44 PM

^ i do the same

1. 1/3 in the brake booster hose. turn off engine
2. pour 1/3 in the oil
3. pour the rest in the gas tank
wait for 10min and start it up. rev some till smoke somewhat clears...then drive around the block.
4.change oil

for mines i had better response. for older cars you might get exhaust leaks...

camo31"10.50" · 11-03-2009, 12:10 AM

i do about 3/4 in the intake..(over a few hours time) and then 1/4 in the tank just for the heck of it..lol

never put it in my crankcase..my oil stays clean..and i dont leak MUCH..lol of course it's rebuilt..LOL

camo31"10.50" · 11-03-2009, 12:11 AM

i also did mine at the local carwash on a cruise night....had A LOT of guys come around askin me if somethin was wrong...i smoke that biatch out hahahahhahahahaha..it was hilarious....

Adam F · 11-04-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmcorbin

adam f do you mean let the tank get close to empty put a quart of atf in and run it like that, or fill up the tank again after you put in the atf?

Yes, run it with a high amount of ATF in the gasoline. ATF has a high level of detergents and it will help clean out any junk in the fuel lines or injectors.

theAuthority · 11-04-2009, 10:39 AM

Did you run it with any snake oil or elbow grease?

Homeless dog & truck · 11-04-2009, 10:55 AM

You can pour LOTS of different stuff in a engine to make it smoke. Just cause its smokin doesn't mean anything. As a routine it might work but like the one guy said it ain't a GENI in a bottle. Monitoring your A/F ratio long term is the best. I have taken enough EFI apart selling them to LCE and I'm not impressed...most are crapped out with carbon. I did run a qt. of LUCAS injector cleaner on my last long trip .I have a carb but clean is clean. It also said improves mileage. I got 17 MPG with my trk. weighing 5300 lbs pulling a 450 lb trailer and 200 lbs or stuff in the trailer going from 1000 feet in elevation. to 4000 feet for a duration of 339 miles. I'd say Lucas is good and make financial sense to use it.

90-3vzeslug · 11-04-2009, 06:29 PM

90-3vzeslug · 11-04-2009, 06:30 PM

damn link!

www.seafoam.com and click on the fuel injector cleaner video is halfway or so down the page

Buhundred · 11-05-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90-3vzeslug

damn link!

www.seafoam.com and click on the fuel injector cleaner video is halfway or so down the page

That link is wrong too, LOL.

Adam F · 11-05-2009, 08:23 PM

lol

tmcorbin · 11-06-2009, 02:52 AM

Now thats thinkin with ur dipstick.

90-3vzeslug · 11-07-2009, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam F

lol

YIKES I fail!

heres the real link this time. third times the charm.
http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment/index.html

at the bottom of the page is the video.

tj884Rdlx · 11-10-2009, 06:32 PM

well i must admit, that sea foam place does look very clean!

Adam F · 11-10-2009, 08:59 PM

Hell yea! Seafoam is a miracle in a bottle, use it to clean ANYTHING!

10-30-2009, 06:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
yoterr Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Inverness,FL Posts: 1,037	theres a sea foam thread on here somewhere, but ur supposed to kill it with the seam foam and pour like an 1/8 of it in there after it dies, now this is extremely hard with an EFI motor but they sell sea foam deep creep i think its the same stuff just n a spray can so u can spray it threw the throttle body __________________ new to me 86' toy on 35" procomp mud terrains, with a 4" lift and 3" body and palm fron camo for now... 04' Dodge 2500 4x4 QC hemi leveled, home made CAI and flowmaster exhaust

10-30-2009, 09:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,397	Keep in mind, seafoam is not a miracle in a bottle. Sounds like you have other problems, seafoam will not fix it. Could be clogged fuel injectors. When did you change your fuel filter last? If its been a long time, change it, cut it in half, and look for crud. If its clogged, then so are your fuel injectors. Try running some ATF in your gas tank. Let the tank get to close to empty, and dump a quart of ATF in. Run it for a while, and see if it helps. __________________ 88 4Runner. 350 V8, R150 5-speed. SAS, 36" TSL's, elocker rear

10-31-2009, 04:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
tmcorbin Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 148	adam f do you mean let the tank get close to empty put a quart of atf in and run it like that, or fill up the tank again after you put in the atf? I sea foamed mine last week, used the brake booster hose, runs really crappy when you pull that hose off, but once I started pooring in the sea foam it will smooth out. put in about a 1/2 can then shut it off for 5 min. Found an exhaust leak aroung the exhaust man to down pipe connection. When I started it up it filled the block up with smoke. Ran it for about an hour and it still smoked. finally stopped smoking just the other day. But the power increase was unbelievable. Put the rest of the can in the oil. I will change it out tomorrow. I was hoping it would help out my valve seals, but has not changed the oil consumption any. __________________ 85 4runner 22re, 170K, clean and straight. Still working through 20 years of scheduled maint. Future plans, engbldr street RV head, cam and OS valves, engbldr over haul kit, Marlin Crawler trany rebuild kit, T-case rebuild, 2" lift, interior, repaint. Currently 20mpg, Sound great, using 1qt of oil every two days.

10-31-2009, 04:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
92 TOY Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northeast Pennsylvania Posts: 1,080	Slightly off topic but still on the subject of SEAFOAM. Can I use it and a old toothbrush and scotchbrite pads to clean myvalves and piston tops while I have my engine mostly disassembled. I was told to use brake cleaner, which I haven't gotten yet, but I do have seafoam. Back on topic...would there be any downside to doing the treatment a 2nd time for the question in the original post? Or is there a better place to use to suck in the seafoam? I have not done that ever. __________________ 1992 4x4 shortbed /22re/auto/192,000 miles--original owner(rebuild in process) 1988 SR5 4runner /V6/5 speed/248,000 miles/bought April 2009/*UNDER CONSTRUCTION* 2006 SR5 4runner (the wife's)....still being paid for... >>>>Check out My SLOOOOOOW Re-build Thread<<<< http://www.yotatech.com/f116/92-toy-...-start-188472/

11-01-2009, 02:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
phildelfino Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 553	I use the brake booster hose. One treatment should be 1/3 can in gas tank, 1/3 can in vacuum hose (then shut it off for 25 - 30 minutes to let it soak in) and 1/3 can in oil. I use it in the oil 2-500 miles before oil change. Don't know how much good it does this 230,000 mile V6 in my 88. But I feel it doesn't hurt any, so I will continue. __________________ 1988 4 Runner w/225,XXX miles, 3.slow V6. A/T. 4.10s?-(G292 code) and power everything else that still works, except someone broke off my electric antenna. 1.25" BL. Used Marlin Crawler Rear Bumper, 33 x 12.50 x 15 on Steel Chromies w 3.5" BS. Has new shocks, leafs. Soon; Trail Gear Sliders, ZUK brackets & coils, rear shock brackets & flip kit, Wish List; Rear lockrite, 529's, sliders (got them for $100.oo, new in box), 5 speed swap http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3171939

10-30-2009, 12:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
fastrob691 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fartesia, NM Posts: 8	When i did sea foam through the intake on my 92 my neighbors called the fire department, dead serious, had to explain to them that i knew what i was doing and the 100ft cloud was supposed to look like that. They took my empty can for the report, so they could highlight the instructions. Maybe yours is really clean, mine was not. I ran it through a strong vaccuum source, i believe off the cruise junction/solenoid.

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11-02-2009, 11:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cal01 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 59	^ i do the same 1. 1/3 in the brake booster hose. turn off engine 2. pour 1/3 in the oil 3. pour the rest in the gas tank wait for 10min and start it up. rev some till smoke somewhat clears...then drive around the block. 4.change oil for mines i had better response. for older cars you might get exhaust leaks... __________________ 97 SR5 5spd 4x4 wanted: White Drivers side Fender

11-03-2009, 12:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	i do about 3/4 in the intake..(over a few hours time) and then 1/4 in the tank just for the heck of it..lol never put it in my crankcase..my oil stays clean..and i dont leak MUCH..lol of course it's rebuilt..LOL __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-03-2009, 12:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	i also did mine at the local carwash on a cruise night....had A LOT of guys come around askin me if somethin was wrong...i smoke that biatch out hahahahhahahahaha..it was hilarious.... __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

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11-04-2009, 10:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
Homeless dog & truck Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 213	sea foam You can pour LOTS of different stuff in a engine to make it smoke. Just cause its smokin doesn't mean anything. As a routine it might work but like the one guy said it ain't a GENI in a bottle. Monitoring your A/F ratio long term is the best. I have taken enough EFI apart selling them to LCE and I'm not impressed...most are crapped out with carbon. I did run a qt. of LUCAS injector cleaner on my last long trip .I have a carb but clean is clean. It also said improves mileage. I got 17 MPG with my trk. weighing 5300 lbs pulling a 450 lb trailer and 200 lbs or stuff in the trailer going from 1000 feet in elevation. to 4000 feet for a duration of 339 miles. I'd say Lucas is good and make financial sense to use it. Last edited by Homeless dog & truck; 11-04-2009 at 10:56 AM.

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90-3vzeslug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: RI Posts: 129	<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/D11ZVYwj62w&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&featur e=player_embedded&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/D11ZVYwj62w&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&featur e=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> It goes through the pcv valve hose. this feeds all cylinders thoroughly. It will work this way! __________________ 90 3vze 4x4 runner mostly stock. custom isr mod, cherry bomb turbo muffler 31x10.5 Coursers with stock 4.10s hehe. custom 4runner a$$ sag :( and 1 extremely dirty lebra. (no hood scoops)

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90-3vzeslug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: RI Posts: 129	damn link! www.seafoam.com and click on the fuel injector cleaner video is halfway or so down the page __________________ 90 3vze 4x4 runner mostly stock. custom isr mod, cherry bomb turbo muffler 31x10.5 Coursers with stock 4.10s hehe. custom 4runner a$$ sag :( and 1 extremely dirty lebra. (no hood scoops)

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Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,397	lol __________________ 88 4Runner. 350 V8, R150 5-speed. SAS, 36" TSL's, elocker rear

11-06-2009, 02:52 AM	#20 (permalink)
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tj884Rdlx Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ATL! Posts: 513	well i must admit, that sea foam place does look very clean! __________________ 88 4Runner DLX, 15x8 soft8s w/ BFG 33x10.5 A/Ts. 1.5" SDORI spacers, OME CS009s, 1" 4crawler b.l., original Canback top

11-10-2009, 08:59 PM	#23 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,397	Hell yea! Seafoam is a miracle in a bottle, use it to clean ANYTHING! __________________ 88 4Runner. 350 V8, R150 5-speed. SAS, 36" TSL's, elocker rear

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