new dd?

90-3vzeslug · 11-07-2009, 11:11 AM

I have the opportunity to pick up a really cheap (and in decent shape) 2000 ford explorer. I am at heart a ford guy, but am really starting to fall for the yota.

I would use it for daily driving and keep the yota for wheeling.

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camo31"10.50" · 11-07-2009, 11:13 AM

get something better on gas dude..lol..if you're gonna have 2 vehicles..one for wheeling and one for DD..then get an economic car...or at least one that gets better gas mileage than that hog

90-3vzeslug · 11-07-2009, 11:16 AM

im not sure where you get hog from? My yota 14 mpg. my commute all highway. explorer 20-22 mpg highway......

and I am NOT a small car guy lol. i'm 6'3" 285 pounds. I just need something a bit better on gas and still comfortable lol

ocdropzone · 11-07-2009, 11:20 AM

you are the consumer, the driver etc. you ask about a Ford on a Toyota forum, expect to get a preferance to a toyota over a ford. Ask the same question on a Ford forum and get a reverse answer.

Do what works for you.

camo31"10.50" · 11-07-2009, 11:32 AM

uhhmm..if your toyota is gettin 14mpgs...you should start figurin out why...one of my buddies has a '91 4runner 3.0 5spd 4wd..and he consistently gets around 19-20mpgs??? its on 31's with stock 4.10's and he don't drive like a grandma either LOL

im just saying you could easily get a Honda (which are actually very spacious...my sister had a early 90's civic 4 door and it was VERY comfortable and im 6'1" and 220lbs) for im sure close to the same price (what is the actual price of the explorer???) and the civic will double the mileage of that explorer..

90-3vzeslug · 11-07-2009, 02:49 PM

camo- find me one for $300 in RI and i'll buy it lol

toyota4x4907 · 11-07-2009, 02:55 PM

An Explorer for $300?....

Why is he selling it for $300? Arent you a little weary about buying a crappy vehicle for a low price? Obviously it has something wrong if hes selling it so cheap.....

Plus...

.......Its an Explorer!?

Doc.Gneoson · 11-07-2009, 03:00 PM

every older explorer i've had any experience with was a piece of crap, so for $300 i can just imagine

dannomite · 11-07-2009, 03:34 PM

What is this "explorer" you speak of? I am only familiar with the ford exploder. Perhaps you all just misspelled.

Matt90V6SR5 · 11-07-2009, 06:21 PM

Lol @ danno,my sis has a 99 exploder and I like my 90 4Runner 100 million times better.Gotta ask yourself a question what are you getting for 300$.Unless of course you already plan on pouring money into said exploder.

90-3vzeslug · 11-08-2009, 04:33 PM

yes the explorer was $300. yes it gets better gas mileage than the runner. yes it has ~60 more horses and ~75 more ft.lbs torque than the runner. yes it has minor body damage.

But you are all overlooking the underlying point! i bought it so I can take the runner off the road and mod it properly! now what?

Adam F · 11-08-2009, 08:43 PM

Everyone one is saying that there has to be a catch with a $300 Explorer. Like something is wrong that will need fixing $$$

AZkid · 11-08-2009, 08:57 PM

until we get proof of the explorer running and driving properly for a period of time, expect us to criticize your deceions, thats $300 that could have been into the runner

90-3vzeslug · 11-09-2009, 02:05 PM

theres really no catch with the explorer. bought it off of an acquantance with a substance abuse issue. the rear quarter has a nice dent, but nothing that affects the driving at all. frames solid, tranny is recently rebuilt, motor has 160 psi min compression. I know explorers and this truck is actually much nicer than the 4runner. I will agree that I am not expecting 350k miles out of the explorer but they will hit 200k no problem. also I am not expecting it to be a trail monster like the toyota.

I simply bought a dd beater to give me the opportunity to build the runner the way i want and not have to rush things because i have to drive it to work on monday.

Is there seriously no one else that has bought a beater to dd while building there truck?
come on now!

AZkid · 11-09-2009, 02:08 PM

not a ford explorer!

90-3vzeslug · 11-09-2009, 02:52 PM

wow never knew toyota guys were snobbier than chevy guys!

Matt90V6SR5 · 11-09-2009, 05:28 PM

Its not an explorer,its an exploder.LOL

theAuthority · 11-09-2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90-3vzeslug

wow never knew toyota guys were snobbier than chevy guys!

it's just somehow your thread found a lot of trolls ...

my wife drive's a kia, I drive a cadillac. but I drive my truck when it's not down for repairs.

My wife wants me to get a bmw or something fancy to drive to work and keep the truck a project. I told her no. I'd have a very fancy driveway ornament while I drive my Toyota and all my spare tools to work.

I buy a vehicle to DD it, not a toy to smash.

I drive this to work, in a rain coat and pants ... what are you complaining about?

Teuf · 11-09-2009, 05:43 PM

I had a 90 explorer I bought in 99. It got my 2 dogs around, and fit all my photo equip. For that matter I have had an 84 f150, 1987 Samurai, Jeep cherokee, all beaters. If not for them my 88 pu would have 587000 miles, instead of 287k.

theAuthority · 11-09-2009, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90-3vzeslug

theres really no catch with the explorer. bought it off of an acquantance with a substance abuse issue.

That's not very nice.

So you're supporting his drug habit by taking advantage of him?

theAuthority · 11-09-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teuf

I had a 90 explorer I bought in 99. It got my 2 dogs around, and fit all my photo equip. For that matter I have had an 84 f150, 1987 Samurai, Jeep cherokee, all beaters. If not for them my 88 pu would have 587000 miles, instead of 287k.

yah but at 587,000 miles you'd be hitting your first engine rebuild...

Teuf · 11-09-2009, 06:04 PM

Well I have been beaterless for 4 years or so. I used my kids Wrangler for a few weeks because I had busted a plug in #4 cyl. Just as well, come to find out the head was cracked, so hello Lce. If it was not for pics and info here, it would still be apart.

theAuthority · 11-09-2009, 06:07 PM

amen. good luck on that rebuild.

I've been contemplating LCE. I finally decided on engnbldr with 268 cam I believe ?

Teuf · 11-09-2009, 06:25 PM

Good luck with cam.

theAuthority · 11-09-2009, 06:29 PM

I might or might not go with it.

It would be a middle step for me.

I have been contemplating just jumping straight to my ultimate build ... either 383 stroker for fun or diesel engine for stability.

Might just go to 4bt.

11-07-2009, 11:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	get something better on gas dude..lol..if you're gonna have 2 vehicles..one for wheeling and one for DD..then get an economic car...or at least one that gets better gas mileage than that hog __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-07-2009, 11:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
90-3vzeslug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: RI Posts: 129	im not sure where you get hog from? My yota 14 mpg. my commute all highway. explorer 20-22 mpg highway...... and I am NOT a small car guy lol. i'm 6'3" 285 pounds. I just need something a bit better on gas and still comfortable lol __________________ 90 3vze 4x4 runner mostly stock. custom isr mod, cherry bomb turbo muffler 31x10.5 Coursers with stock 4.10s hehe. custom 4runner a$$ sag :( and 1 extremely dirty lebra. (no hood scoops) Last edited by 90-3vzeslug; 11-07-2009 at 11:18 AM.

11-07-2009, 11:20 AM	#4 (permalink)
ocdropzone Contributing Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PDX, OR Posts: 4,706	you are the consumer, the driver etc. you ask about a Ford on a Toyota forum, expect to get a preferance to a toyota over a ford. Ask the same question on a Ford forum and get a reverse answer. Do what works for you. __________________ ~Robb '81 Trekker The B4Runner Build TREKKER Forum Mini FAQ/Misc Ideas Thread TRY THESE SEARCH LINKS GOOGLE FOR TOYOTA WEBSITES LINK TO ONLINE FACTORY SERVICE MANUALS Drive a real 1st Gen Wheel Responsibly, Don't Screw It Up for Others

11-07-2009, 11:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
camo31"10.50" Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vian, OK Posts: 2,064	uhhmm..if your toyota is gettin 14mpgs...you should start figurin out why...one of my buddies has a '91 4runner 3.0 5spd 4wd..and he consistently gets around 19-20mpgs??? its on 31's with stock 4.10's and he don't drive like a grandma either LOL im just saying you could easily get a Honda (which are actually very spacious...my sister had a early 90's civic 4 door and it was VERY comfortable and im 6'1" and 220lbs) for im sure close to the same price (what is the actual price of the explorer???) and the civic will double the mileage of that explorer.. __________________ FOR SALE 1986 Ext. Cab 4x4, rebuilt 22R, 5spd, 31x10.50 X-Terrains FOR SALE 1992 SR5 FO RUNNA V6, 5 speed, 4in. trail-master lift, 33x12.50 BFG muds, 4.56 gears!!! and an IMMACULATE interior..yes..you should be jealous "Its still a toyota man.. Dont deprive it of its capabilities.." "If you can read english, Thank a teacher...If you can speak it, Thank a soldier!!" Kelli Ruark-2009

11-07-2009, 02:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
90-3vzeslug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: RI Posts: 129	camo- find me one for $300 in RI and i'll buy it lol __________________ 90 3vze 4x4 runner mostly stock. custom isr mod, cherry bomb turbo muffler 31x10.5 Coursers with stock 4.10s hehe. custom 4runner a$$ sag :( and 1 extremely dirty lebra. (no hood scoops)

11-07-2009, 02:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
toyota4x4907 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 2,334	An Explorer for $300?.... Why is he selling it for $300? Arent you a little weary about buying a crappy vehicle for a low price? Obviously it has something wrong if hes selling it so cheap..... Plus... .......Its an Explorer!? __________________ '95 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|130K miles\|ISR\| 2" BL\| 31x10.5 \| CompuStar Auto-start\| two 170mm LightForce\|anti-sway bars removed f/r\|Warn manual hubs\|ADD bypassed\|Diff breather extensions\|XLPerformance muffler '88 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|206K miles\|Sold '93 single cab\|22re\|5spd\|150K miles\|Sold\| Pro IFS

11-07-2009, 03:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
Doc.Gneoson Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: summerland, B.C. canada Posts: 67	every older explorer i've had any experience with was a piece of crap, so for $300 i can just imagine __________________ Cris

11-07-2009, 03:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
dannomite Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 237	What is this "explorer" you speak of? I am only familiar with the ford exploder. Perhaps you all just misspelled. __________________ 1996 SR5 5speed rear locker.

11-07-2009, 06:21 PM	#10 (permalink)
Matt90V6SR5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Firestone,Co. Posts: 302	Lol @ danno,my sis has a 99 exploder and I like my 90 4Runner 100 million times better.Gotta ask yourself a question what are you getting for 300$.Unless of course you already plan on pouring money into said exploder.

11-08-2009, 04:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
90-3vzeslug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: RI Posts: 129	yes the explorer was $300. yes it gets better gas mileage than the runner. yes it has ~60 more horses and ~75 more ft.lbs torque than the runner. yes it has minor body damage. But you are all overlooking the underlying point! i bought it so I can take the runner off the road and mod it properly! now what? __________________ 90 3vze 4x4 runner mostly stock. custom isr mod, cherry bomb turbo muffler 31x10.5 Coursers with stock 4.10s hehe. custom 4runner a$$ sag :( and 1 extremely dirty lebra. (no hood scoops)

11-08-2009, 08:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Adam F Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati Ohio Posts: 2,397	Everyone one is saying that there has to be a catch with a $300 Explorer. Like something is wrong that will need fixing $$$ __________________ 88 4Runner. 350 V8, R150 5-speed. SAS, 36" TSL's, elocker rear

11-08-2009, 08:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
AZkid Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 702	until we get proof of the explorer running and driving properly for a period of time, expect us to criticize your deceions, thats $300 that could have been into the runner __________________ 87 Runner "Chalkboard" SAS'in it babbbyyyyy! If you have any parts to aid me in my SAS, PM me. http://www.yotatech.com/f191/azkid-s...thread-189120/ Proud creator of the re-poster thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-09-2009, 02:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
90-3vzeslug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: RI Posts: 129	theres really no catch with the explorer. bought it off of an acquantance with a substance abuse issue. the rear quarter has a nice dent, but nothing that affects the driving at all. frames solid, tranny is recently rebuilt, motor has 160 psi min compression. I know explorers and this truck is actually much nicer than the 4runner. I will agree that I am not expecting 350k miles out of the explorer but they will hit 200k no problem. also I am not expecting it to be a trail monster like the toyota. I simply bought a dd beater to give me the opportunity to build the runner the way i want and not have to rush things because i have to drive it to work on monday. Is there seriously no one else that has bought a beater to dd while building there truck? come on now! __________________ 90 3vze 4x4 runner mostly stock. custom isr mod, cherry bomb turbo muffler 31x10.5 Coursers with stock 4.10s hehe. custom 4runner a$$ sag :( and 1 extremely dirty lebra. (no hood scoops)

11-09-2009, 02:08 PM	#15 (permalink)
AZkid Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 702	not a ford explorer! __________________ 87 Runner "Chalkboard" SAS'in it babbbyyyyy! If you have any parts to aid me in my SAS, PM me. http://www.yotatech.com/f191/azkid-s...thread-189120/ Proud creator of the re-poster thread. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-09-2009, 02:52 PM	#16 (permalink)
90-3vzeslug Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: RI Posts: 129	wow never knew toyota guys were snobbier than chevy guys! __________________ 90 3vze 4x4 runner mostly stock. custom isr mod, cherry bomb turbo muffler 31x10.5 Coursers with stock 4.10s hehe. custom 4runner a$$ sag :( and 1 extremely dirty lebra. (no hood scoops)

11-09-2009, 05:28 PM	#17 (permalink)
Matt90V6SR5 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Firestone,Co. Posts: 302	Its not an explorer,its an exploder.LOL

11-09-2009, 05:43 PM	#19 (permalink)
Teuf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Napa, Ca Posts: 482	I had a 90 explorer I bought in 99. It got my 2 dogs around, and fit all my photo equip. For that matter I have had an 84 f150, 1987 Samurai, Jeep cherokee, all beaters. If not for them my 88 pu would have 587000 miles, instead of 287k.

11-09-2009, 06:04 PM	#22 (permalink)
Teuf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Napa, Ca Posts: 482	Well I have been beaterless for 4 years or so. I used my kids Wrangler for a few weeks because I had busted a plug in #4 cyl. Just as well, come to find out the head was cracked, so hello Lce. If it was not for pics and info here, it would still be apart.

11-09-2009, 06:07 PM	#23 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,623	amen. good luck on that rebuild. I've been contemplating LCE. I finally decided on engnbldr with 268 cam I believe ? __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

11-09-2009, 06:25 PM	#24 (permalink)
Teuf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Napa, Ca Posts: 482	Good luck with cam.

11-09-2009, 06:29 PM	#25 (permalink)
theAuthority Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Lynnwood, WA Posts: 1,623	I might or might not go with it. It would be a middle step for me. I have been contemplating just jumping straight to my ultimate build ... either 383 stroker for fun or diesel engine for stability. Might just go to 4bt. __________________ Proud sponsor of the re-poster thread. Where there is Substance. http://www.yotatech.com/f5/you-re-poster-193103/

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