Most reliable engine made? - Page 4

Daniel M · 02-20-2008, 06:02 PM

The often over looked 1960s gmc 305 v6.

My grandfather had 2 1966 gmc trucks with the 305 big block v6 one with over 570,000 miles on it when he retired. No major work done, just oil changes.

I know a few ranchers with the same engine still running strong today.

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GenXr · 02-20-2008, 06:30 PM

The Nissan VG30E 3.0 V6 is probably the best built V6 on the planet and was only surpassed by the VQ series engines.

The VG30 served in trucks, pathfinders, maximas, Quest minivans, and the venerable 300ZX. You could build those motors from mild to wild on stock head gaskets (to about 400HP) and many of those engines run to 300,000 miles. In trucks and SUVs they are matched up to very well geared 5-speeds.

For the same year of production versus The 22RE or 3VZE you find more original condition high mileage motors with the VG30's.

Visit the Nissan forums and you'll see, the engines are something they almost never complain about and always take for granted.

Kiwipushrod · 02-20-2008, 08:29 PM

Hey Guys,

If it does not make power it will last "forever". Simple pysical principals that no auto manufacturer can seem to get around.

I figure 80-90 h.p. per liter is the "reliable" limit, beyond that You have an everyday driver problem. Some motors do it better then others.

The 22re does not make any power to speak of, so of course it lasts "forever", and it still has the dissimilar metal headgasket problem (iron,aluminium expansion rates w/headgasket inbetween). However the injection system is very stable.

G.M. Has proven beyond a reasonable doubt, that the small block chevy is the most reliable motor of all time. In its 265,283,305,307,327,350 and 400 c.i. configuration it is very hard to beat. Search 1 million mile Chevy.

My honarable mention would be the Toyota V-6, the one from the Cressida, the Buick even fire 3.8, I dont know of any bad VW motors, its the rest of the car that drove You nuts, the Audi 5 cyl. is grenade proof, yea I know its a VW, the volvo b24 is unbelievable (never seen a bad one), the Dodge slant 6 is right up there too, and last but not least is the Honda 1.5.

I may have forgotten a motor or two, but in My experience these motors have all Proven that they have what it takes to go 1 million plus.

Thanks Kiwi

91Toyota · 02-20-2008, 08:51 PM

350....diesel....a cummins

stormin94 · 02-20-2008, 10:50 PM

Scion(Toyota) 1.5 liter.

I've seen one that ran just perfect in a Scion xB with 300,000 miles. The owner never missed maintenance.

forbiddenera · 02-17-2009, 06:28 PM

My 3vze went 500,000 on the original HG and I'm sure would still be running if I didn't drive it into a big puddle.

bigt · 02-17-2009, 06:35 PM

the TOYOTA 3b diesel
THE LAST million mile gear driven toyota diesel

toyota4x4907 · 02-17-2009, 06:43 PM

The OP said no diesels!

buckweat84 · 02-17-2009, 06:56 PM

my buddy has a 1989 ford f-150 with the original straight 6 long block in it and it has over 400,000 on it and still running good he drives it to work everyday with only a few fuel injection problems...he also has a 89chevy silverado with a 350 v8 and 4 speed tranny!!!grany gear in it...that thing will just about pull anything it can hook to

bigt · 02-17-2009, 07:20 PM

ok then 22re

24Runna · 02-17-2009, 11:36 PM

1UZ-FE, 22RE. I too have heard of them lasting a looooooooooong time. I can't wait cuz by the time I get my mom's '04 it'll have 180k on it. I wnt to see that ODO go HIGH.

b/s rules · 02-18-2009, 05:36 AM

hondas are very tough engines, but i've got to say the 22r and re's.

ttoad91 · 02-20-2009, 01:53 PM

grandpa has a 62 ford pickup with the original inline 6 (and 4speed tranny) that starts everytime and puts along just great. miles are unknown but hes had it for years and years and says he cant remember EVER working on anything but the brakes.. but i have to say, IMO, honda and toyota build the best engines OVERALL. thats just my experience and opinion thou.. have had good luck with the GM 3.8s and ford 5.0s, just the rest of the cars intergrity is junk!

Dirt Master80 · 02-20-2009, 02:03 PM

22re,chev 350 and 4.3 and hate to say it but the jeep 4.0 has to take the win, its bullet proof and makes enough hp and tq to get the job done

1989toy4wd · 02-26-2009, 09:02 PM

I almost bought a 2wd tacoma with 749k miles original engine, auto tranny and never burned any oil, regular maintenance, I think it went through like 7 timing chains though. 2rz?? I think?

22re, 350 chevy, chevy slant 6, 3.4, 2.2L camry motor (cant remember engine code). Any flat 4 engine is really reliable, I saw one with 300k getting a head rebuilt and the factory cross hatch pattern was still on the cyl walls

harpen123 · 02-26-2009, 10:07 PM

grandad had a diesel mercedes 2.4 go for 440k so Id say thats def up there and also the diesel version of the 22re in japan the 2.4d toyota motor. case in point hilux destruction vid.

sorry read the no diesels after post

mt_goat · 02-27-2009, 08:39 AM

I'm going to give the 5VZFE another vote here.

BTW my old mechanical engineering professor told us the secret to the VW bug engine lasting so long was the very long head bolts. The longer they are the more they stretch when torquing them down, giving more clamping force. IIRC I think he said the head bolts go all the way though the engine.

1989toy4wd · 02-27-2009, 08:47 AM

well the head bolts wouldnt help the cylinder walls, or the pistons, so I dont believe that!!

mt_goat · 02-27-2009, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1989toy4wd

well the head bolts wouldnt help the cylinder walls, or the pistons, so I dont believe that!!

Well I guess you have to look at what's usually the first thing to fail. He was a pretty smart guy with 60+ years in the rear view.

GVOLCRunner · 02-27-2009, 09:34 AM

Subaru Boxer engine... in general. Its just a strong design. I had a 89 Sub station wagon and the think was like a tank.

I say becuase while Im seeing a lot of high milage engines...there are a lot that need a lot of TLC to get there. The question was 500k W/O a lot of TLC.

My personal fav. Any small block v-8, ford or chevy from the 60's. Why? Lower RPMS reduced the stress on that simplistic, bulletproof design. Guzzles gas, sure..but come WWIII; im grabbing a 67 chevy to drive.

snobdds · 02-27-2009, 09:42 AM

x2 on the Subaru 1800 cc engine and the 22re.

Can't kill them

hillbillydeelux · 02-27-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b.miller123

3VZ-E

(Trying to get some good karma with my own truck)

lol knock on wood....

85toy13 · 02-27-2009, 01:03 PM

20r or 22r ?

85toy13 · 02-27-2009, 01:35 PM

witch moter is better 20r or 22r?

okie81 · 02-27-2009, 01:50 PM

Someone mentioned it earlier so I'm just putting my vote in for the Slant 6.

They have these enduro-like races at the local destruction derby every year: You take a junk car, drain the oil and race around the track until your car explodes.... Winners are usually running a 22RE or a slant 6.

02-20-2008, 06:30 PM	#77 (permalink)
GenXr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 558	The Nissan VG30E 3.0 V6 is probably the best built V6 on the planet and was only surpassed by the VQ series engines. The VG30 served in trucks, pathfinders, maximas, Quest minivans, and the venerable 300ZX. You could build those motors from mild to wild on stock head gaskets (to about 400HP) and many of those engines run to 300,000 miles. In trucks and SUVs they are matched up to very well geared 5-speeds. For the same year of production versus The 22RE or 3VZE you find more original condition high mileage motors with the VG30's. Visit the Nissan forums and you'll see, the engines are something they almost never complain about and always take for granted. __________________ Old Blue - 1995 Xtra Cab 4x4

02-20-2008, 10:50 PM	#80 (permalink)
stormin94 Contributing Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lake County, CA/Sacramento Posts: 3,535	Scion(Toyota) 1.5 liter. I've seen one that ran just perfect in a Scion xB with 300,000 miles. The owner never missed maintenance. __________________ 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4X4 213,000 miles and counting 3.0 V6, 5 speed 10/15 MPG city/hwy(with 33's) Current Mods Headers, 2.5" Flowmaster custom exhaust, K&N FIPK KC Daylighter 100 Watt lights Ranchos x4, 2" Lift Downey coils 33-12.50 M/T's, 1" t-bar lift, 1" body lift Tow pkg w/ lighthookups Silverstar Headlights, Pioneer Deck w/XM Brushguard 250Watt JLAudio 8" W3 Sub Future Mods 12V Aux outlet-400/800peak inverter roof basket/lights Air locker 4.88 gears H.O. Alternator

02-17-2009, 06:35 PM	#82 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,200	the TOYOTA 3b diesel THE LAST million mile gear driven toyota diesel __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

02-17-2009, 06:43 PM	#83 (permalink)
toyota4x4907 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska Posts: 2,334	The OP said no diesels! __________________ '95 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|130K miles\|ISR\| 2" BL\| 31x10.5 \| CompuStar Auto-start\| two 170mm LightForce\|anti-sway bars removed f/r\|Warn manual hubs\|ADD bypassed\|Diff breather extensions\|XLPerformance muffler '88 4runner\|22re\|5spd\|206K miles\|Sold '93 single cab\|22re\|5spd\|150K miles\|Sold\| Pro IFS

02-17-2009, 07:20 PM	#85 (permalink)
bigt Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: chippawa niagara falls ontario Posts: 3,200	ok then 22re __________________ 1991 HILUX SURF SSR-X turbo diesel right hand drive toyota imported in 2005 from japan, 130,000 km 31 bfg a/t auto current build 1987 LWB suzuki samurai. turning 2 into one.. yota axles welded front to back, yota springs , ifs steering box,, this bad boy will not only eat jeeps but toyotas aswell \m/

02-20-2008, 08:29 PM	#78 (permalink)
Kiwipushrod Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 241	Hey Guys, If it does not make power it will last "forever". Simple pysical principals that no auto manufacturer can seem to get around. I figure 80-90 h.p. per liter is the "reliable" limit, beyond that You have an everyday driver problem. Some motors do it better then others. The 22re does not make any power to speak of, so of course it lasts "forever", and it still has the dissimilar metal headgasket problem (iron,aluminium expansion rates w/headgasket inbetween). However the injection system is very stable. G.M. Has proven beyond a reasonable doubt, that the small block chevy is the most reliable motor of all time. In its 265,283,305,307,327,350 and 400 c.i. configuration it is very hard to beat. Search 1 million mile Chevy. My honarable mention would be the Toyota V-6, the one from the Cressida, the Buick even fire 3.8, I dont know of any bad VW motors, its the rest of the car that drove You nuts, the Audi 5 cyl. is grenade proof, yea I know its a VW, the volvo b24 is unbelievable (never seen a bad one), the Dodge slant 6 is right up there too, and last but not least is the Honda 1.5. I may have forgotten a motor or two, but in My experience these motors have all Proven that they have what it takes to go 1 million plus. Thanks Kiwi

02-17-2009, 06:28 PM	#81 (permalink)
forbiddenera Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 288	My 3vze went 500,000 on the original HG and I'm sure would still be running if I didn't drive it into a big puddle.

02-17-2009, 06:56 PM	#84 (permalink)
buckweat84 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: mount pleasant NC Posts: 15	my buddy has a 1989 ford f-150 with the original straight 6 long block in it and it has over 400,000 on it and still running good he drives it to work everyday with only a few fuel injection problems...he also has a 89chevy silverado with a 350 v8 and 4 speed tranny!!!grany gear in it...that thing will just about pull anything it can hook to

02-17-2009, 11:36 PM	#86 (permalink)
24Runna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wauconda, IL/Edwardsville, IL Posts: 857	1UZ-FE, 22RE. I too have heard of them lasting a looooooooooong time. I can't wait cuz by the time I get my mom's '04 it'll have 180k on it. I wnt to see that ODO go HIGH. __________________ '95 4Runner SR5 130k 3.0 - Auto - 4WD - 4.88 Gears - Aisin Hubs - Downey Headers - Performance Cams - 2.25" CherryBomb Turbo - GY Wrangler RT/S 31x10.5x15 Sony CDX-310 - Polk dB401 - Sirius Hardwired - iPod Touch 32GB Finished putting engine in Apr-26-09, 108k

02-18-2009, 05:36 AM	#87 (permalink)
b/s rules Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: louisville, ky Posts: 138	hondas are very tough engines, but i've got to say the 22r and re's. __________________ 91 SAS, 22RE, 529's, 35" swamper tsx's, Lincoln Locked Front and Rear, Marfield outers, 8000 lb Warn, passenger side OH HELL handle and the skinny pedal with a magnet on the bottom. 94 stock, 262k miles, 31" bfg Mall terrains

02-20-2009, 01:53 PM	#88 (permalink)
ttoad91 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2	grandpa has a 62 ford pickup with the original inline 6 (and 4speed tranny) that starts everytime and puts along just great. miles are unknown but hes had it for years and years and says he cant remember EVER working on anything but the brakes.. but i have to say, IMO, honda and toyota build the best engines OVERALL. thats just my experience and opinion thou.. have had good luck with the GM 3.8s and ford 5.0s, just the rest of the cars intergrity is junk!

02-20-2009, 02:03 PM	#89 (permalink)
Dirt Master80 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maple Valley, Washington Posts: 110	best engines 22re,chev 350 and 4.3 and hate to say it but the jeep 4.0 has to take the win, its bullet proof and makes enough hp and tq to get the job done __________________ 80 pickup- built to wheel, locked f/r 36" sx's, curently working on exo-cage and 4.3vortec/700r4 swap Strong,Good,or Cheap pick two Has anyone seen my muffler bearings? My drinkin team has a toyota problem

02-26-2009, 09:02 PM	#90 (permalink)
1989toy4wd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beaumont, Tx Posts: 949	I almost bought a 2wd tacoma with 749k miles original engine, auto tranny and never burned any oil, regular maintenance, I think it went through like 7 timing chains though. 2rz?? I think? 22re, 350 chevy, chevy slant 6, 3.4, 2.2L camry motor (cant remember engine code). Any flat 4 engine is really reliable, I saw one with 300k getting a head rebuilt and the factory cross hatch pattern was still on the cyl walls __________________ -Colton- 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX, 22RE, 5-spd, 5-in SAS, Detroit back, ARB front, longs, 37/13R15 Boggers, Marlin front and rear bumpers, Marlin sliders, Ramsey Patriot 9500 winch with synthetic line, Hi-angle D/S F&R, diff breathers, rebuilt tranny, 22RE bored .20 over completely rebuilt (it feels great to not have to buy 2 cases of oil a month!!), whole truck built in memory of my dad (RIP 6-26-08) Daily driver & tow vehicle: 02 Dodge 2500 Diesel, 5-speed, 4wd, quad cab, longbed, 128k miles

02-26-2009, 10:07 PM	#91 (permalink)
harpen123 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC but college at Auburn, AL Posts: 427	grandad had a diesel mercedes 2.4 go for 440k so Id say thats def up there and also the diesel version of the 22re in japan the 2.4d toyota motor. case in point hilux destruction vid. sorry read the no diesels after post __________________ 2002 4runner sport edition, 3.4 liter, OME rear coils, OME shocks, front tundra coils, ARB front bumper, custom rear bumper, and a milemarker 10,500lb winch, 265/75r16 BFG A/T's 1985 P/u basically stock. old motor is out! new stuff swapped over and motor soon to go in. Trail gear 5in has been shipped next, 5.29's, doubler and a buncha other goodies. "If at first u don't succeed , ur probably going about 10 miles per hour too slow." (Only in my 85) "Didn't barbie drive a jeep?" Last edited by harpen123; 02-26-2009 at 10:09 PM.

02-27-2009, 08:39 AM	#92 (permalink)
mt_goat Contributing Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Oklahoma State Posts: 8,919	I'm going to give the 5VZFE another vote here. BTW my old mechanical engineering professor told us the secret to the VW bug engine lasting so long was the very long head bolts. The longer they are the more they stretch when torquing them down, giving more clamping force. IIRC I think he said the head bolts go all the way though the engine. __________________ ~Dale~ 93 4X4 ext-cab, auto, SR5, 3.4 V6, supercharged, 2.1" pulley, URD fuel mods, Aquamist WI, IPT valve body mod, dual cases, 4" superlift front, Alcan springs rear, 33 BFG MT, ARB locked front & rear, 5.29 US Gears, RB 1" Body Lift, 1.5" ball joint spacers, manual hubs, TJM T-17, Warn m8000.

02-27-2009, 08:47 AM	#93 (permalink)
1989toy4wd Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Beaumont, Tx Posts: 949	well the head bolts wouldnt help the cylinder walls, or the pistons, so I dont believe that!! __________________ -Colton- 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX, 22RE, 5-spd, 5-in SAS, Detroit back, ARB front, longs, 37/13R15 Boggers, Marlin front and rear bumpers, Marlin sliders, Ramsey Patriot 9500 winch with synthetic line, Hi-angle D/S F&R, diff breathers, rebuilt tranny, 22RE bored .20 over completely rebuilt (it feels great to not have to buy 2 cases of oil a month!!), whole truck built in memory of my dad (RIP 6-26-08) Daily driver & tow vehicle: 02 Dodge 2500 Diesel, 5-speed, 4wd, quad cab, longbed, 128k miles

02-27-2009, 09:34 AM	#95 (permalink)
GVOLCRunner Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 245	Subaru Boxer engine... in general. Its just a strong design. I had a 89 Sub station wagon and the think was like a tank. I say becuase while Im seeing a lot of high milage engines...there are a lot that need a lot of TLC to get there. The question was 500k W/O a lot of TLC. My personal fav. Any small block v-8, ford or chevy from the 60's. Why? Lower RPMS reduced the stress on that simplistic, bulletproof design. Guzzles gas, sure..but come WWIII; im grabbing a 67 chevy to drive. __________________ 90 4runner 3.oooohhh come on up the hill. 31's procomp 3inch lift front and rear; custom rock sliders(cut and ready to weld up)

02-27-2009, 09:42 AM	#96 (permalink)
snobdds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cheyenne, Wyoming Posts: 128	x2 on the Subaru 1800 cc engine and the 22re. Can't kill them __________________ 1988 4x4 Pickup 22 RE. Stock, But oh the places it's seen.

02-27-2009, 01:03 PM	#98 (permalink)
85toy13 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9	20r or 22r ?

02-27-2009, 01:35 PM	#99 (permalink)
85toy13 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 9	witch moter is better 20r or 22r?

02-27-2009, 01:50 PM	#100 (permalink)
okie81 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nor, CAL Posts: 1,158	Someone mentioned it earlier so I'm just putting my vote in for the Slant 6. They have these enduro-like races at the local destruction derby every year: You take a junk car, drain the oil and race around the track until your car explodes.... Winners are usually running a 22RE or a slant 6. __________________ 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4-Dub TRD supercharger, Thorley Headers, URD 7th, Toytec Coilovers, OME 890's, baseball card in spokes

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