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Old 02-07-2007, 07:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Alarm Questions

I posted this yesterday over in the "alarm" section under electronics but since no one goes over there and it isn't set up to show on the main page, no one saw this thread (except reggie) so i'm just posting it in a more prominent place in hopes of getting some information before it gets too late in the day today. thanks for any information!

I went to Best Buy today (they offered me the best price on installation + system - I'm not doing it myself) to look at their systems and ask questions and I was trying to decide between two Viper (DEI) units. one was pretty basic (350HV), had a one-way transmitter and your typical features such as:

3-channel security system with keyless entry
Clone-Safe Code-Hopping ensures no other remotes will work with your system
Parking light flash and bright blue status LED
Valet mode; Failsafe starter kill
Stinger DoubleGuard shock sensor
Revenger 6-tone siren
Dome light supervision; comfort closure
2 auxiliary outputs allow for additional remote devices (not included) to be installed
Includes two 3-way remotes

and is about $230 installed.

the other one I was looking at (3201V) was a step up at $310 installed and included all of the above plus:

6 channels
on-board door lock relays (?)
retained accessory power
dome light supervision; comfort closure
horn honk
5 auxiliary outputs
1 led 2-way transceiver and 1 one-way

my question is: in all honesty, which of those two systems do I NEED? my dad doesnt seem to think i need the battery backup (which adds $25 to the price) or the motion sensor (which adds $30 to the price) as he's never had it. his rationality is if they know enough to unhook the battery without setting it off, they know enough to get my truck one way or another. im a poor college kid and im not looking to spend more than I have to, but i have to weigh my security against funds. any input?

also, what are the auxiliary inputs? i didnt see an optional battery backup or motion sensor listed for the cheaper one but it has 2 auxiliary ports...possibly for those two things?

thanks!
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Old 02-07-2007, 09:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It really depends on what you want.
If they want the truck, they will get it so don't kid yourself.

Also, please please please hide the brian/control unit of the alarm in a proper place and not under the dash!!
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my question is: in all honesty, which of those two systems do I NEED?
The only thing you NEED is a blinking LED that turns on when you turn the ignition off. About $3 in parts.


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...his rationality is if they know enough to unhook the battery without setting it off
peh, unhooking the battery isn't necessary. Grab your small profile 9.6v cordless drill, chuck a 1/4" bit into it, slide under the truck, drill a couple of holes in the battery, wait 5 minutes. Alarm's dead.


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also, what are the auxiliary inputs? i didnt see an optional battery backup or motion sensor listed for the cheaper one but it has 2 auxiliary ports...possibly for those two things?
The brain is probably also used for their remote-start system as well, which means that you could plug in a temp sensor. That'll allow you to setup the system to autostart the car in sub-zero temps.

Past that... physical motion sensors (they hooked your car to a tow truck), ultrasonic sensors (someone's in the car), audio sensor (they busted a window), etc...
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Old 02-08-2007, 02:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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if you can get a motion sencer for $30 bucks man hell ill take 10 of them at my lod shop we sold them for $100 installed thats taxin!!
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Exclamation Valet Keyless Entry 712t

Valet 712T Primary Harness (H1)

1- Red (+)12v constant power input
2- Blue (-2)200mA second unlock output
3- blk/wh1 Input domelight supervision relay #87
4- blk/wh Output domelight supervision relay #30
5- green/blk Lock #30 Common output
6- wh/blk Lock #87 Normally closed
7- Violet/blk Lock #87 Normally open (input)
8- Blue/blk Unlock #30 Common (output)
9- Violet Unlock #87 Normally open (input)
10- White (+/-) Parking light flash output
11- Black (-)Chassis ground input
12- Brown (-)Horn honk output
13- Lt Grn/blk Factory Alarm disarm
14- White/Blue (-)200mA Ch3 validity output
15- Yellow (+)Switched ignition input(accessory
16- Orange (-)500mA Ground-when-armed Output
17- Brown/Blk Unlock #87A Normally Closed
18- Red/White (-)Output of Channel 2

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