***Attention All Members***

**aviator** · 11-01-2007, 10:11 AM

Due to certain activities over the past few months in the forum the mods feel that the following addition to the rules is necessary.

"The spirit of the rules"
The "spirit" of the rules is difficult to describe in "black letter" law because it is fluid and context based, for example everyone knows the difference between a picture that is just sexy [PG-13] and one that is pornography but the legal definition changes depending on where you are making it difficult to define. Yet most everyone has a similar "standard" for what is and is not acceptable.

There are some activities that may not violate the rules as listed but can be termed as violating the "spirit" of the rules because by their nature they make this forum and/or the off-road community in general less enjoyable to be a part of.

Everyone knows what breaking the "spirit" of the law looks like, even if they can't describe it. People who choose to break the spirit of the rules will be warned and repeat offenders banned.

Because this new rule is meant to cover the 'grey areas' a ban would only be instated as a last resort with the agreement of a majority of the mods.

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Rock Slide · 11-01-2007, 07:11 PM

Interesting...

sdstud212001 · 11-01-2007, 07:40 PM

hmmmm.......
yeah some toe that line too close.

MudHippy · 11-01-2007, 08:36 PM

Who did what?

You mean that Osama guy?

What exactly are we talkin' about by "grey areas" here?

In reference to precisely which "certain activities"?

Please explain further if you would be so kind.

Thanks.

Tylerars24 · 11-01-2007, 09:08 PM

I understand your argument, however wordy it is, it does make sense.

Is there a warning procedure in place?

ocdropzone · 11-02-2007, 01:11 AM

That seems to put in words very well...

stormin94 · 11-02-2007, 01:36 AM

Cool, sounds good.

***Corey*** · 11-02-2007, 02:12 AM

Thanks for the support.
You know, there are always going to be a few troublemakers who want to push the limits of what they know is right/wrong, so this is kind of like trying to cover that.

There has been some recent stalking of a member here and it was dealt with.
Some members like to take slow and drawn out stabs at other members, and sometimes you just gotta say no to that crap.

Some just like to disrupt how a forum flows, and we have had a string of reported posts recently asking for us to take action, and it was dealt with.
Often this can lead to a ban(s).

We come here to learn/share, not to babysit.

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