Tacoma Prerunner lift on a 95 4Runner?

hostile · 11-18-2008, 09:49 PM

So i spent a few hours at the shop today exploring all my options and the guy told me I can put a 4 inch 96-04 Tacoma Prerunner front end Truxx lift kit on my automatic IFS 95 4Runner and fabricate some coils they had sitting around for the back for considerably less than it would cost me to get a kit actually built for my 4Runner.

Have any of you heard of this? I just wanted to verify this information before i take my truck in just to find out it doesn't fit and I owe 150 dollars in labor fees. lol

I have a part number for this Truxx lift kit also if it matters.
It's part #: 909031

If it doesn't end up fitting and they find that out after taking it apart, am i still responsible for paying the labor fees?

Thanks for any help.

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Mic09dcsm · 11-18-2008, 09:54 PM

Don't do that, buy a real lift. And no you can't the 95 Had torsion bars, not coils so don't. It's a totally different suspension.

hostile · 11-18-2008, 10:02 PM

Well the coils were only on the rear, the front end truxx lift would be for the front and wiki says that the 95 4runner rear suspension is on coils and not torsion bars.

Mic09dcsm · 11-18-2008, 10:04 PM

I'm just saying I wouldn't buy this random lift.

hostile · 11-18-2008, 10:08 PM

Well $460 sounds a lot nicer than $1300 which was the starting price for a lift on an automatic IFS 95 4runner. Don't hate on it just because it's not brand name or something. =/

eightnine · 11-18-2008, 10:11 PM

I don't think it would work as the 4runner has the old IFS suspension (torsion bars) and the taco has the newer style IFS.

hostile · 11-18-2008, 10:18 PM

Are you absolutely positive on that? I'd hate to miss out on the chance to save almost 800 dollars. Maybe I should just let them order it and see what happens.

eightnine · 11-18-2008, 10:23 PM

Yeah man you gota use the search, After some quick searching I am sure that tacos dont have torsion bars they have coil overs up front just as the 96+ 4runners do. Only the 86-95 4runners and pickups have torsion bars up front. Your going to be wasting your money if you order that kit man

hostile · 11-18-2008, 10:30 PM

Well i'm not personally ordering it. The shop is ordering it so it's a waste of their money if it doesn't work. lol

olharleyman · 11-18-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hostile

Well i'm not personally ordering it. The shop is ordering it so it's a waste of their money if it doesn't work. lol

There gonna want a deposit from you before they order it

Why not go with bj spacers and land cruiser coils for the rear very cheap and you should be able to fit 33's iirc

hostile · 11-18-2008, 10:35 PM

Nope, should be there Friday and I didn't put anything down. lol

EvaMonky · 11-18-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hostile

Nope, should be there Friday and I didn't put anything down. lol

What are you gonna do when something breaks? Like one of their coils they made for you? There is no warranty for that. You will get screwed if it happens on the trail.

Godforbid it happens on the street while hitting a pothole.... That could cause an accident.

There's a reason why those lifts are so expensive. First is quality, second is materials.

I'm all for saving a few bucks when it's reasonable to do so. But don't put yourself (and others) in danger because you want to save some change.

hostile · 11-18-2008, 10:43 PM

This is a reputable corporate business. It's not going to be some backyard job if that's what you're thinking. lol, they're professionals. they said they'd put together parts for the rear end from other lift kits they've got.

**Tofer** · 11-18-2008, 10:53 PM

i want to know what shop told you this?! let me guess 4wheelparts?! because there is NO way a lift for a 96+ tacoma will fit on a 95.... custom coils in the rear i believe.... wouldnt do it personally because that most likely will just mean they are going to cut down some coil to make it work..... again 95 IFS has T-bars 96+ has coilovers.

this will not work.

balljoint spacers and LC coils or ifs bracket lift. or SAS it.

edit*

from Truxxx website: were do you plan on putting this on your 95 4runner?

http://truxxx.com/toyota_products/909031.htm

**DeathCougar** · 11-18-2008, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hostile

So i spent a few hours at the shop today exploring all my options and the guy told me I can put a 4 inch 96-04 Tacoma Prerunner front end Truxx lift kit on my automatic IFS 95 4Runner and fabricate some coils they had sitting around for the back for considerably less than it would cost me to get a kit actually built for my 4Runner.

Have any of you heard of this? I just wanted to verify this information before i take my truck in just to find out it doesn't fit and I owe 150 dollars in labor fees. lol

I have a part number for this Truxx lift kit also if it matters.
It's part #: 909031

If it doesn't end up fitting and they find that out after taking it apart, am i still responsible for paying the labor fees?

Thanks for any help.

Good luck with that.

Let us all know how that Tacoma lift works on your 2nd Gen 4Runner

Despite people telling you it won't work, you continue to argue. I would never trust a shop that tells me a Coilover lift will fit a Torsion bar truck, to build me "custom coils". Custom coils? Sure, coupla welds and VIOLA! Custom coils!

Tell you what, bring it to me. If you believe the BS they are feeding you, I will install the lift for $250.

Again, in case you missed it: THE TACOMA LIFT will NOT WORK on the 95 4RUNNER

**Tofer** · 11-18-2008, 11:23 PM

bring it to me i'll do it for 200

hostile · 11-19-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

Good luck with that.

Let us all know how that Tacoma lift works on your 2nd Gen 4Runner

Despite people telling you it won't work, you continue to argue. I would never trust a shop that tells me a Coilover lift will fit a Torsion bar truck, to build me "custom coils". Custom coils? Sure, coupla welds and VIOLA! Custom coils!

Tell you what, bring it to me. If you believe the BS they are feeding you, I will install the lift for $250.

Again, in case you missed it: THE TACOMA LIFT will NOT WORK on the 95 4RUNNER

I'm not arguing that it will/won't work, i'm simply not taking what they said to be 100% positive because they didn't seem too sure themselves. If you feel you need to degrade someone for not taking someone serious when they themselves aren't 100% positive, you can leave my thread and maybe spend some more time flirting with the e-hos.

Tofer, the place doing it is this place. I haven't actually heard of this being possible before and it doesn't really surprise me that it's not, that's why i asked for some feedback with facts, not just "its not brand name" which seems to be an acceptable reason for DC up there. Thanks for the info tofer.

**Tofer** · 11-19-2008, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hostile

Tofer, the place doing it is this place.

note to self... NEVER SHOP THERE! who ever said that it is possible needs to be fired. they are an idiot and are wasting their time, your time, company money and oxygen that could go towards people with IQ's that cant be counted on their hands.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by hostile

I haven't actually heard of this being possible before and it doesn't really surprise me that it's not, that's why i asked for some feedback with facts, not just "its not brand name" which seems to be an acceptable reason for DC up there. Thanks for the info tofer.

what?!!

everyone has said this will not work... yet you seem to be negitive towards everyone who has said so, as if you believe it will.. if it looks like a duck, quack like a duck, and several people ( people who KNOW toyotas) have told you its a duck.... then it just may be a F'ing duck. if you want to start an e-name calling session, post this thread, let us tell you it wont work, spend the money and PROVE US wrong... then you can be hostile.. otherwise sit back and accept the knowledge that others have provided you.

nobody has said "its not brand name" because 1) it wont work therefore brand has nothing to do with it. and 2) there are PLENTY of other "non brand name" / "non- buy it out of the box store and take it home" lifts out there..... ball joint spaces and land Cruiser Coils for example.... throw some specially cut chunks of aluminum between you upper control arm and your ball joint. then go find a toyota landcruiser and grab the springs off it..... where is the brand name in that?!

**Tofer** · 11-19-2008, 12:25 AM

see the thing in the chicks hand? that is the coil over.... what your buying from TRUXX is that silver spacer on top of the coilover..... now, go out to your truck and tell me where you would put that...

more pics of coil overs:

here is what your truck will look like

notice how there is only a shock, not a coil spring over it?? that is becuase it uses Torsion bar for the spring. you can see the black bar running to the back of the truck.

but if you still dont believe us.. feel free to have them install the tacoma lift kit...... i'd love to see pictures of it when its done.

hostile · 11-19-2008, 12:33 AM

A few people said it wouldn't work and none of them listed reasons why it wouldn't work so why should i believe them? There was no knowledge in that. There was knowledge in me requiring the facts to why it shouldn't work. Sorry but that's just how I see things.

Do the ball joint spacers work on an automatic? I thought they didn't.

Quote:

nobody has said "its not brand name"

Quote:

I'm just saying I wouldn't buy this random lift.

What happened to the helpful people around here? all i get is attitude now for asking for info.

**Tofer** · 11-19-2008, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mic09dcsm

And no you can't the 95 Had torsion bars, not coils so don't. It's a totally different suspension.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eightnine

the 4runner has the old IFS suspension (torsion bars) and the taco has the newer style IFS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tofer

again 95 IFS has T-bars 96+ has coilovers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathCougar

I would never trust a shop that tells me a Coilover lift will fit a Torsion bar truck,

nope... nobody told you why it wouldnt work... your right.

yes BJ spacers will work on automatics..... how does the transmission affect if a chuck of metal will fit between the UCA and balljoint? you may be confused with a body lift which requires more work with an auto, but is still possible.

What happened to the helpful people around here? all i get is attitude now for asking for info.... you right we're all just a bunch of a'holes try asking over on www.pirate4x4.com/forum they are much more understanding for these kind of questions.

hostile · 11-19-2008, 12:46 AM

Your top 2 quotes from mic and eight i replied to and asked "Are you absolutely positive?". I wasn't arguing, it was a serious question because the mechanic seemed pretty sure it would work.

The replies from DC and you were both as insults because i asked them if they were sure so how can i consider your posts to be true when they didn't even exist throughout this?

I then said "Maybe I should just let them order it and see what happens." because I know for a fact i'm not going to pay them any money to put on a lift kit when they as mechanics couldn't figure out that it wasn't going to work. It was in no way meant as sarcasm or argumentative. I meant it would be a loss to their company and if anything happens to my truck or me, they WILL pay for damages.

..Been through that before and got a free transmission for my old buick.

hostile · 11-19-2008, 01:56 AM

Thanks for the info anyways tofer, although i wasn't happy with how it was delivered, still got the point across. I plan to buy some bj spacers tomorrow. I think my rear coils are pretty shot anyways so i'm leaning towards landcruiser coils instead of the suggested coil spacers (on 4crawler).

What year landcruiser? or does that matter? .. probably a repeat question so i'll search on it.

JoKEpLaYeR · 11-19-2008, 10:35 AM

SEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4Crawler is a good guy to work with, I've bought a bunch of his parts.

But if you think your coils are shot, then search around and figure out what LC coils you need. That sounds wise. SOOOOO many other people have done this mod, there are even "Sticky" threads about what parts with what years. Just poke around.

hostile · 11-19-2008, 11:19 AM

lol, thanks. i've been poking around for the last week now. Finally starting to get all the answers i'm looking for. If this forum wasn't so big it'd be easier not having to sift through the random posts.

11-18-2008, 09:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mic09dcsm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 535	Don't do that, buy a real lift. And no you can't the 95 Had torsion bars, not coils so don't. It's a totally different suspension. __________________ "I love my 4Runner. Everyone else in my condo hates it! I guess it looks bad next to there brand new 20 or 30 thousand dollar cars that will die before my $600 Yota does, and probably before they're even done paying their cars off!" -Steveycapri Whips: '92 Xtra Cab Dlx V6, '94 Dlx I4 5spd. Camry. 98% of the teenage population will try, does, or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy and paste this into your sig. NOTE: To find the 2%...I'm the other 98%.

11-18-2008, 10:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Well the coils were only on the rear, the front end truxx lift would be for the front and wiki says that the 95 4runner rear suspension is on coils and not torsion bars. Last edited by hostile; 11-18-2008 at 10:06 PM.

11-18-2008, 10:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mic09dcsm Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Antonio Posts: 535	I'm just saying I wouldn't buy this random lift. __________________ "I love my 4Runner. Everyone else in my condo hates it! I guess it looks bad next to there brand new 20 or 30 thousand dollar cars that will die before my $600 Yota does, and probably before they're even done paying their cars off!" -Steveycapri Whips: '92 Xtra Cab Dlx V6, '94 Dlx I4 5spd. Camry. 98% of the teenage population will try, does, or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy and paste this into your sig. NOTE: To find the 2%...I'm the other 98%.

11-18-2008, 10:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
eightnine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 934	I don't think it would work as the 4runner has the old IFS suspension (torsion bars) and the taco has the newer style IFS. __________________ 1989 Toyota 4runner Special Edition - Rebuilt 22re bored .20 over 4.30 gears, - Magnaflow Performance Exhaust with Magnaflow Hi Flow Catalytic Converter, Monroe Sensa-Tracs Shocks all around, 4runner AALs, Custom Checkerplate front skid plate, Kayline Soft Top , Clear Corners and Turn Signals, Eagle Alloy Rims with 31x10.5x15 M/T tires, 2 12" JBL Subwoofers / MTX AMP, Pioneer Premiere Speakers, JVC KD-G730 MP3/CD/Bluetooth

11-18-2008, 10:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
eightnine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 934	Yeah man you gota use the search, After some quick searching I am sure that tacos dont have torsion bars they have coil overs up front just as the 96+ 4runners do. Only the 86-95 4runners and pickups have torsion bars up front. Your going to be wasting your money if you order that kit man __________________ 1989 Toyota 4runner Special Edition - Rebuilt 22re bored .20 over 4.30 gears, - Magnaflow Performance Exhaust with Magnaflow Hi Flow Catalytic Converter, Monroe Sensa-Tracs Shocks all around, 4runner AALs, Custom Checkerplate front skid plate, Kayline Soft Top , Clear Corners and Turn Signals, Eagle Alloy Rims with 31x10.5x15 M/T tires, 2 12" JBL Subwoofers / MTX AMP, Pioneer Premiere Speakers, JVC KD-G730 MP3/CD/Bluetooth Last edited by eightnine; 11-18-2008 at 10:25 PM.

11-18-2008, 10:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Well $460 sounds a lot nicer than $1300 which was the starting price for a lift on an automatic IFS 95 4runner. Don't hate on it just because it's not brand name or something. =/

11-18-2008, 10:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Are you absolutely positive on that? I'd hate to miss out on the chance to save almost 800 dollars. Maybe I should just let them order it and see what happens.

11-18-2008, 10:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Well i'm not personally ordering it. The shop is ordering it so it's a waste of their money if it doesn't work. lol

11-18-2008, 10:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Nope, should be there Friday and I didn't put anything down. lol

11-18-2008, 10:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	This is a reputable corporate business. It's not going to be some backyard job if that's what you're thinking. lol, they're professionals. they said they'd put together parts for the rear end from other lift kits they've got.

11-18-2008, 10:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	i want to know what shop told you this?! let me guess 4wheelparts?! because there is NO way a lift for a 96+ tacoma will fit on a 95.... custom coils in the rear i believe.... wouldnt do it personally because that most likely will just mean they are going to cut down some coil to make it work..... again 95 IFS has T-bars 96+ has coilovers. this will not work. balljoint spacers and LC coils or ifs bracket lift. or SAS it. edit* from Truxxx website: were do you plan on putting this on your 95 4runner? http://truxxx.com/toyota_products/909031.htm __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :) Last edited by Tofer; 11-18-2008 at 10:56 PM.

11-18-2008, 11:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	bring it to me i'll do it for 200 __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :)

11-19-2008, 12:25 AM	#19 (permalink)
Tofer Super Moderator Staff Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tacoma WA. Posts: 6,902	see the thing in the chicks hand? that is the coil over.... what your buying from TRUXX is that silver spacer on top of the coilover..... now, go out to your truck and tell me where you would put that... more pics of coil overs: here is what your truck will look like notice how there is only a shock, not a coil spring over it?? that is becuase it uses Torsion bar for the spring. you can see the black bar running to the back of the truck. but if you still dont believe us.. feel free to have them install the tacoma lift kit...... i'd love to see pictures of it when its done. __________________ 94 4runenr: all the good stuff....... 89 4runner: 3.0, Auto, 5.29 lockright f/r. 31x10.5 wildcountry ATs. 81 2wd pickup: 22R \| 5-sp \| long bed \|Civic SI seats \| LockRight \| Hella 500s pacific-crawlers.com For all your Trail-gear and HID lighting Solutions Needs check out yotaworks.com Online store coming soon :) Last edited by Tofer; 11-19-2008 at 12:33 AM.

11-19-2008, 12:46 AM	#22 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Your top 2 quotes from mic and eight i replied to and asked "Are you absolutely positive?". I wasn't arguing, it was a serious question because the mechanic seemed pretty sure it would work. The replies from DC and you were both as insults because i asked them if they were sure so how can i consider your posts to be true when they didn't even exist throughout this? I then said "Maybe I should just let them order it and see what happens." because I know for a fact i'm not going to pay them any money to put on a lift kit when they as mechanics couldn't figure out that it wasn't going to work. It was in no way meant as sarcasm or argumentative. I meant it would be a loss to their company and if anything happens to my truck or me, they WILL pay for damages. ..Been through that before and got a free transmission for my old buick. Last edited by hostile; 11-19-2008 at 12:59 AM.

11-19-2008, 01:56 AM	#23 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	Thanks for the info anyways tofer, although i wasn't happy with how it was delivered, still got the point across. I plan to buy some bj spacers tomorrow. I think my rear coils are pretty shot anyways so i'm leaning towards landcruiser coils instead of the suggested coil spacers (on 4crawler). What year landcruiser? or does that matter? .. probably a repeat question so i'll search on it.

11-19-2008, 10:35 AM	#24 (permalink)
JoKEpLaYeR Contributing Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 879	SEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4Crawler is a good guy to work with, I've bought a bunch of his parts. But if you think your coils are shot, then search around and figure out what LC coils you need. That sounds wise. SOOOOO many other people have done this mod, there are even "Sticky" threads about what parts with what years. Just poke around. __________________ Steve/KG6ZJL <>< 1982 Camaro Z28 and 1988 4Runner... they're giving my wallet anxiety issues. 'Locking the hubs and airing down... there is no better way to start a weekend!' - Me www.SteveArnett.com

11-19-2008, 11:19 AM	#25 (permalink)
hostile Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 397	lol, thanks. i've been poking around for the last week now. Finally starting to get all the answers i'm looking for. If this forum wasn't so big it'd be easier not having to sift through the random posts.

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